Re: The Online Photographer asks; Is color printing easier now?
On 8 July 2012 11:03, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest challenge was getting the plastic print drums absolutely clean between procedures. As I recall, it involved ammonia, detergent, my bathtub, and a rinse in Orbit bath to get the drums totally clean. Jeffery, You do realise that ammonia is a fogging agent, don't you. How did you ever manage to keep it from contaminating your unprocessed materials? When I was 20 I worked in a lab that did both photographic services and diazo printing, which developed in ammonia fumes. You couldn't move from the dyline area to another without a thorough hand scrubbing, lest all your subsequent work would be spoiled, and any contaminated chemistry would need to be ditched. Even just handling a finished dyeline print would contaminate your hands for other photographic processes. I wouldn't have any ammonia product in the same room as photographic film or paper. Personally regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The Online Photographer asks; Is color printing easier now?
To which I could only answer Duh? I've done wet print processing with Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet printer makes color printing much easier. Now are the images produced better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question to ask. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Online Photographer asks; Is color printing easier now?
Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom. Regards, Jeffery _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: To which I could only answer Duh? I've done wet print processing with Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet printer makes color printing much easier. Now are the images produced better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question to ask. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Online Photographer asks; Is color printing easier now?
On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote: Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom. Regards, Jeffery Me too... but not to your numbers but walk in closet and Ciba, yes. In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop black and white negs. I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs. Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of work. I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple on the wall. But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype ann _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: To which I could only answer Duh? I've done wet print processing with Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet printer makes color printing much easier. Now are the images produced better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question to ask. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Online Photographer asks; Is color printing easier now?
I did all of the printing for two editions of an Atlas of Parasitology while still a graduate student at Tulane. It took some convincing for me to get the two authors (old guys) to use Ektachrome instead of Kodachrome. At the time, New Orleans had the best color lab in the USA (Primary Color), and getting slides developed in an hour with no greenish hue did it. My biggest challenge was getting the plastic print drums absolutely clean between procedures. As I recall, it involved ammonia, detergent, my bathtub, and a rinse in Orbit bath to get the drums totally clean. Regards, Jeffery _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote: Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom. Regards, Jeffery Me too... but not to your numbers but walk in closet and Ciba, yes. In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop black and white negs. I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs. Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of work. I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple on the wall. But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype ann _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: To which I could only answer Duh? I've done wet print processing with Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet printer makes color printing much easier. Now are the images produced better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question to ask. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Online Photographer asks; Is color printing easier now?
I printed a handful of cibachrome 8 x 10s in the seventies. Still have a few. Too time consuming, but nice results. On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote: Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom. Regards, Jeffery Me too... but not to your numbers but walk in closet and Ciba, yes. In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop black and white negs. I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs. Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of work. I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple on the wall. But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype ann _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: To which I could only answer Duh? I've done wet print processing with Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet printer makes color printing much easier. Now are the images produced better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question to ask. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Online Photographer asks; Is color printing easier now?
And to answer the question: Of course. Color printing is infinitely easier now. And with far more precise control of variables, inkjet printing is superior to optical printing as well. In theory, with a large format neg, a superb enlarging lens and lots of time, one cold produce a superior optical print, but I would that that, in practice, that rarely happens. On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I printed a handful of cibachrome 8 x 10s in the seventies. Still have a few. Too time consuming, but nice results. On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote: Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom. Regards, Jeffery Me too... but not to your numbers but walk in closet and Ciba, yes. In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop black and white negs. I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs. Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of work. I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple on the wall. But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype ann _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: To which I could only answer Duh? I've done wet print processing with Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet printer makes color printing much easier. Now are the images produced better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question to ask. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
