Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
Miserere wrote: Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his reputation. Just catching up...that's priceless, Miserere. CR Kennedy must be chuckling in the tearoom at this clown. Third camera and he's finally satisfied, and to prove it, posts a superbly crappy photo. I was near the liner this afternoon - lucky you can't make me out under the crappiness. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
On 13/4/10, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, unleashed: That's /exactly/ why I won't put his name, or even recognizable nicknames of him into a post. I don't want to contribute to his Google Cred. You mean Ken Rockwell? D'oh. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
From: eckinator 2010/4/13 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening. Mark! I suggest ? Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness... KR ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... 5 ... 6 ... 7 ... 8 ... 9 ... NR -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/4/14 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: eckinator 2010/4/13 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening. Mark! I suggest ? Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness... KR ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... 5 ... 6 ... 7 ... 8 ... 9 ... NR NR as in NO ROCKWELL? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: eckinator 2010/4/14 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: eckinator 2010/4/13 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening. Mark! I suggest ? Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness... KR ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... 5 ... 6 ... 7 ... 8 ... 9 ... NR NR as in NO ROCKWELL? As in NOrman ROCKWELL. http://preview.tinyurl.com/y6g5mtx -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/4/14 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: eckinator NR as in NO ROCKWELL? As in NOrman ROCKWELL. I would have never thought of Norman. Kennyboy and him are universes apart. To put them on the same scale is an injustice to both. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
I use wacky with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with wacky and inept. So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful. You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct, of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame. Catch all the action here: http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong. Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his reputation. Cheers, --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
That hurts so bad... I'm going blind... have you no mercy? 2010/4/13 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: I use wacky with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with wacky and inept. So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful. You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct, of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame. Catch all the action here: http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong. Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his reputation. Cheers, --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
I read about 20 of the comments and then my head exploded.
On 4/13/2010 3:26 PM, Miserere wrote:
I use wacky with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I
just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with wacky and
inept.
So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he
had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test
it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he
can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it
because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer
than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful.
You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say
it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and
explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of
events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they
should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he
linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct,
of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion
his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens
because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame.
Catch all the action here:
http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html
I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is
not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems
to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong.
Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell
them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look
really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his
reputation.
Cheers,
--M.
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
2010/4/13 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: I use wacky with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with wacky and inept. [...] Catch all the action here: http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html uhu. Just one question left, after that Will it blend? Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/4/13 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: uhu. Just one question left, after that Will it blend? The author's brain? Your question comes late, I'm afraid =) Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Miserere wrote: Catch all the action here: http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/4/13 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening. Mark! I suggest ° Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
On 4/13/2010 4:44 PM, eckinator wrote:
2010/4/13 mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening.
Mark!
I suggest ° Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness...
It would be a nice idea, but using a measure that starts at ∞ (One
Rockwell == Kennyboy)?
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!
eckinator wrote: 2010/4/13 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening. Mark! I suggest ° Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness... _That_ is assigning entirely too much importance to them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh my /Sulu On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I use wacky with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with wacky and inept. So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful. You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct, of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame. Catch all the action here: http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong. Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his reputation. Cheers, --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/4/13 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: It would be a nice idea, but using a measure that starts at ∞ (One Rockwell == Kennyboy)? it is an existing measure for hardness so it fits - the harder it hurts the more rockwell it is and you have to admit not all kenny hurts equally bad cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/4/13 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: _That_ is assigning entirely too much importance to them. wasn't that done already? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh that was pricless. Thanks Is that Rob S our Rob.?? Dave On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I use wacky with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with wacky and inept. So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful. You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct, of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame. Catch all the action here: http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong. Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his reputation. Cheers, --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 14/04/2010, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Oh that was pricless. Thanks Is that Rob S our Rob.?? I only talk to CRK when I absolutely have to and that's generally when I'm arguing about a stuffed up repair. The guy's a knob but unfortunately he is gaining site hits and therefore Internet cred because of the interest generated by Pentax centric forums like this, sad how it works but true. One of my good mates (who just purchased a D90) pointed me to some references on Kennyboys site the other day, same thing. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 13, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 14/04/2010, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Oh that was pricless. Thanks Is that Rob S our Rob.?? I only talk to CRK when I absolutely have to and that's generally when I'm arguing about a stuffed up repair. The guy's a knob but unfortunately he is gaining site hits and therefore Internet cred because of the interest generated by Pentax centric forums like this, sad how it works but true. One of my good mates (who just purchased a D90) pointed me to some references on Kennyboys site the other day, same thing. Not only is Kim misinformed. He can't write a lick. That helps make his site tedious. Of course there's not a single ad anywhere to be seen on his pages, so he's not making a dime. I guess there's a measure of justice in that. Paul Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-04-13 19:02, Rob Studdert wrote: I'm arguing about a stuffed up repair. The guy's a knob but unfortunately he is gaining site hits and therefore Internet cred That's /exactly/ why I won't put his name, or even recognizable nicknames of him into a post. I don't want to contribute to his Google Cred. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
