Re: Which 28-105?

2004-01-30 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Thanks everyone for your input.  Sounds like the 24-90 will work best 
with the *istD, which is what I'm looking to get a general purpose zoom 
for.  I have the F 35-135, but I'm not too thrilled with the image 
quality and will probably sell it after I get a better zoom.

rg

Dr. Heiko Hamann wrote:
Stan Halpin wrote:

IIRC, the $357 one is the PZ (Power Zoom) version, the original one 
(which I own.) Considered to be a very good lens though I have gotten 
spoiled by faster lenses. The silver $189 version was made by Tamron 
and is ok but not great. The $199 version is a newer Pentax version 
which is also ok but probably not up to the quality of the original.


I have owned the PZ and the Tamron-built one. The PZ is much better and 
would be my suggestion. The current 28-105 version is the 28-105/3.2-4.5 
 and seems to be a good performer - better thann the Tamron-built but 
not as good as the PZ. I haven't used it yet, but someone (who ownes it) 
told me that it has very good contrast and sharpness.

If I were buying today, I would probably choose either (1) a 77mm Ltd 
or the FA 85/1.4; (2) the PZ version of the zoom; (3) the FA 24-90 zoom.


Today I would suggest the 24-90, too. Why? Before the *istD I would have 
suggested the PZ. But now I have also used it on my *istD. And here it 
doesn't perform as good as on my MZ-5n. But the 24-90 is very good on 
the *istD (and the MZ-5n).  As the 24-90 was designed togethert with the 
MZ-S and its digital sibling, it might be that Pentax has taken 
requirements of a digital camera into account.

Cheres Heiko





Re: Which 28-105?

2004-01-30 Thread Joe Wilensky
I have owned two examples of the power zoom version and one example 
of the newest, f/3.2-4.5 version. The image quality seemed 
essentially equal, although the newer lens is faster and much more 
compact. This could make for faster and possibly more accurate 
focusing, at least with some Pentax bodies.

The newer lens is also a bit flimsier, though, especially since it 
extends quite a bit when zoomed out to 105mm. The power zoom is a 
wonderfully solid zoom lens for a modern autofocus one.

I sold my example of the newest version and picked up an excellent 
sample of the power zoom because I missed its solidity and because 
the power zoom version balances so nicely on the PZ-1/PZ-1p. But I've 
since picked up an MZ-5n, a much smaller camera body, and then I 
recently got a used but EX example of the 24-90. It's light and 
slightly flimsy like the newest 28-105, but in my opinion the image 
quality and the 24mm focal length make up for the build quality 
shortcomings.

I will be listing my EX+ power zoom 28-105 for sale later this 
morning, complete with caps and an off-brand hard case, if anyone is 
interested.

Joe




Stan Halpin wrote:

IIRC, the $357 one is the PZ (Power Zoom) version, the original one 
(which I own.) Considered to be a very good lens though I have 
gotten spoiled by faster lenses. The silver $189 version was made 
by Tamron and is ok but not great. The $199 version is a newer 
Pentax version which is also ok but probably not up to the quality 
of the original.
I have owned the PZ and the Tamron-built one. The PZ is much better 
and would be my suggestion. The current 28-105 version is the 
28-105/3.2-4.5  and seems to be a good performer - better thann the 
Tamron-built but not as good as the PZ. I haven't used it yet, but 
someone (who ownes it) told me that it has very good contrast and 
sharpness.

If I were buying today, I would probably choose either (1) a 77mm 
Ltd or the FA 85/1.4; (2) the PZ version of the zoom; (3) the FA 
24-90 zoom.
Today I would suggest the 24-90, too. Why? Before the *istD I would 
have suggested the PZ. But now I have also used it on my *istD. And 
here it doesn't perform as good as on my MZ-5n. But the 24-90 is 
very good on the *istD (and the MZ-5n).  As the 24-90 was designed 
togethert with the MZ-S and its digital sibling, it might be that 
Pentax has taken requirements of a digital camera into account.

Cheres Heiko




RE: Which 28-105?

2004-01-29 Thread David Madsen
The f4-5.6 for $357 is the power zoom lens.  It is very well made and
reported by others on this list as very sharp.  The f4-5.6 for $189 is a
Tamron barrel with Pentax glass.  Sharp and well built for the price, but
not quite as good as the PZ.  The f3.2-4.5 is the newest design from Pentax.
Unfortunately I have not had my hands on this one yet.  I hope I have
helped.

David Madsen
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http://www.davidmadsen.com

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Subject: Which 28-105?


I was just browsing B&H's site pricing the popular Pentax 28-105 zoom.
But wait, there's three of them:


Price: $ 199.95
Zoom Wide Angle SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL IF Autofocus Lens


Price: $ 357.00
Zoom Wide Angle SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 Autofocus Lens


Price: $ 189.95
Silver Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 IF Autofocus


What is the difference in quality between these three?  I'm confuscated
now


rg




Re: Which 28-105?

2004-01-29 Thread Stan Halpin
That part of my website won't help much.

IIRC, the $357 one is the PZ (Power Zoom) version, the 
original one (which I own.) Considered to be a very good 
lens though I have gotten spoiled by faster lenses. The 
silver $189 version was made by Tamron and is ok but not 
great. The $199 version is a newer Pentax version which is 
also ok but probably not up to the quality of the original.

Again, my only direct experience is with the PZ version.

If I were buying today, I would probably choose either (1) a 
77mm Ltd or the FA 85/1.4; (2) the PZ version of the zoom; 
(3) the FA 24-90 zoom.

Stan

Robert Gonzalez wrote:

I was just browsing B&H's site pricing the popular Pentax 28-105 zoom. 
But wait, there's three of them:

Price: $ 199.95
Zoom Wide Angle SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL IF Autofocus Lens
Price: $ 357.00
Zoom Wide Angle SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 Autofocus Lens
Price: $ 189.95
Silver Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 IF Autofocus
What is the difference in quality between these three?  I'm confuscated 
now

rg





Re: Which 28-105?

2004-01-29 Thread Peter Alling
Can't tell you from personal experience but you can check here for
various people's impressions
http://stans-photography.info/

At 12:14 AM 1/30/04, you wrote:
I was just browsing B&H's site pricing the popular Pentax 28-105 zoom. But 
wait, there's three of them:

Price: $ 199.95
Zoom Wide Angle SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL IF Autofocus Lens
Price: $ 357.00
Zoom Wide Angle SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 Autofocus Lens
Price: $ 189.95
Silver Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 IF Autofocus
What is the difference in quality between these three?  I'm confuscated 
now

rg
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  



Which 28-105?

2004-01-29 Thread Robert Gonzalez
I was just browsing B&H's site pricing the popular Pentax 28-105 zoom. 
But wait, there's three of them:

Price: $ 199.95
Zoom Wide Angle SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL IF Autofocus Lens
Price: $ 357.00
Zoom Wide Angle SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 Autofocus Lens
Price: $ 189.95
Silver Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto SMCP-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 IF Autofocus
What is the difference in quality between these three?  I'm confuscated 
now

rg