ist ds Settings

2006-03-03 Thread dick graham


Just getting familiar with the my new ds and 16-45 ed DA zoom.  Because I 
have a innate lazy side, I am wondering what in-camera settings( 
saturation, sharpness, contrast) ds owners have found to be the most 
satisfactory.  Do you stick with the default settings and do any 
adjustments post shooting?   I realize I should shoot some comparison 
exposures to compare, but this will give me some feed back that will be 
very helpful.


DG



Re: ist ds Settings

2006-03-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:22 AM, dick graham wrote:



Just getting familiar with the my new ds and 16-45 ed DA zoom.   
Because I have a innate lazy side, I am wondering what in-camera  
settings( saturation, sharpness, contrast) ds owners have found to  
be the most satisfactory.  Do you stick with the default settings  
and do any adjustments post shooting?   I realize I should shoot  
some comparison exposures to compare, but this will give me some  
feed back that will be very helpful.


DG


I posted this a while ago. Some of the specific names of settings  
might have changed a little with Firmware v2.0, but it's mostly still  
what I use.

-
Pentax *istDS usage notes (godfrey)

frank wrote:
 Anyway, could you guys (Ds owners) give some suggestions on what I
 should do with the Ds (like firmware, settings and etc)? I've got
 all the batteries and SD cards. Just need some suggestions on the
 settings which can get the best pics out of Ds (jpg and/or RAW).

My usual camera settings are:

Recording menu
- Set color tone to natural
- Set storage to RAW
- Set instant review to 3 secs

Playback menu
- Set hot spot warning to Instant Review

Setup menu
- turn beep off
- turn world time off
- turn guide display off
- set auto power off to 3 min
- set file# to SerialNo

Custom setting
- turn on settings
- turn noise reduction off
- set exposure setting steps to 1/3 EV steps
- set ISO Sensitivity Warning Display to on
- set link AF Point and AE
- set using aperture ring to permitted
- set mag to start zoom playback to 4x
- set WB measurement area to Spot
- set Color Space to AdobeRGB

Fn menu
- set flash to Manual

Some notes:
- Auto Picture and any of the Scene modes will automatically switch  
the Image Tone back to Vivid as part of their presets. Since you're  
storing images in RAW format, it doesn't matter - you'll render it as  
you see fit after the fact. If you're saving in JPEG format, be aware  
of this.


- Whenever you use a manual focus lens, the focus indication is  
locked to the center AF point, and matrix metering is linked to that  
point as well. I often turn off the focus indication when I'm using  
MF lenses as the illuminated point gets in the way of critical  
focusing in the center area of the viewfinder.


- If AF focus mode is left enabled with a manual focus lens, the  
shutter will be blocked unless the focus confirmation indicator is  
illuminated. Setting MF unblocks the shutter, leaving AF set allows  
'trap focus' ... Hold the shutter release down on a moving target and  
as soon as focus confirmation is lit the shutter will fire.


- Using a manual focus A series lens on A, all meter modes and  
patterns are available. Exposure info will not include the lens focal  
length. PTTL works with the built in flash in all modes, Av mode  
locks the shutter speed to 1/180 sec.


- Using an M or K series manual focus lens, only CW Averaging and  
Spot patterns are available, and you are best to use Manual exposure  
mode: the AE-lock button will take a meter reading and set the  
shutter speed, which you can adjust with the thumbwheel. The aperture  
ring controls the aperture, and the DoF preview works. The built-in  
flash reverts to full power, manually set exposure with the aperture  
control and guide number. The aperture value will be absent both in  
the displays and in the picture info. Av mode is also available, but  
M and K series lenses will not stop down: all metering and exposures  
will be made at wide open aperture. All program and Tv settings will  
default to Av. 'A' series lenses operate the same way as M and prior  
when you take the aperture off the 'A' setting.

---

hope that helps.

Godfrey



Re: ist ds Settings

2006-03-03 Thread pnstenquist
I shoot with that lens quite often, but only in RAW mode. Of course in-camera 
settings have no effect on RAW images. In conversion, I find that the default 
ACR 2.4 contrast setting is just about right for good exposures of most subject 
matter. When converting full-frame images to 144 meg files, I turn the 
converter sharpness level down to ten and sharpen with USM after conversion. 
For images where I want everything to pop, I set it at 261%, 1.5 picas, 
threshold 11. For portraits, I generally use only about half of that or less. 
For some images, I apply locally. But those numbers are my maximum USM 
application for files from that lens.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Just getting familiar with the my new ds and 16-45 ed DA zoom.  Because I 
 have a innate lazy side, I am wondering what in-camera settings( 
 saturation, sharpness, contrast) ds owners have found to be the most 
 satisfactory.  Do you stick with the default settings and do any 
 adjustments post shooting?   I realize I should shoot some comparison 
 exposures to compare, but this will give me some feed back that will be 
 very helpful.
 
 DG
 



Re: ist ds Settings

2006-03-03 Thread Aaron Reynolds


On Mar 3, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


- turn guide display off


What does this one do?

-Aaron



Re: ist ds Settings

2006-03-03 Thread brooksdj
Paul, and others.

I really notice a difference in sharpening from the Nikon files to the Pentax 
files.If i
forget to sharpen an 
image and print it out at home it still look good. The pentax is a lot softer. 
if i
forget.

Nikon file gets by with 75-90%, 0.3 picas, and threshold to 0.

Pentax, and more so with the 16-45 is at least double the % and i use 1,3 and 
threshold of
5 , i think.

The old farm house picture was converted in PS Raw and the numbers you gave 
Paul came up
as the 
defaults.

Dave

 I shoot with that lens quite often, but only in RAW mode. Of 
course in-
camera settings
have no effect on RAW images. In conversion, I find that the default ACR 2.4 
contrast
setting is just about right for good exposures of most subject matter. When 
converting
full-frame images to 144 meg files, I turn the converter sharpness level down 
to ten and
sharpen with USM after conversion. For images where I want everything to pop, I 
set it at
261%, 1.5 picas, threshold 11. For portraits, I generally use only about half 
of that or
less. For some images, I apply locally. But those numbers are my maximum USM 
application
for files from that lens.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Just getting familiar with the my new ds and 16-45 ed DA zoom.  Because I 
  have a innate lazy side, I am wondering what in-camera settings( 
  saturation, sharpness, contrast) ds owners have found to be the most 
  satisfactory.  Do you stick with the default settings and do any 
  adjustments post shooting?   I realize I should shoot some comparison 
  exposures to compare, but this will give me some feed back that will be 
  very helpful.
  
  DG
  
 






Re: ist ds Settings

2006-03-03 Thread pnstenquist
While doubling the percentage increases the amount of overall sharpening, 
raising the threshold level reduces the way it's applied -- as nearly as I can 
tell through simple examination of the results. So your Nikon vs. Pentax USM 
settings may not be as disparate as you believe. I do remember someone saying 
that RAWs vary considerably. Different cameras process them in various ways. 
However, I'm not techy, so my understanding of this is very limited. I do know 
that the default settings in the RAW converter differ from one camera to 
another. So if you convert at the default setting, the converter may be 
applying different levels of sharpening as well.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul, and others.
 
 I really notice a difference in sharpening from the Nikon files to the Pentax 
 files.If i
 forget to sharpen an 
 image and print it out at home it still look good. The pentax is a lot 
 softer. 
 if i
 forget.
 
 Nikon file gets by with 75-90%, 0.3 picas, and threshold to 0.
 
 Pentax, and more so with the 16-45 is at least double the % and i use 1,3 and 
 threshold of
 5 , i think.
 
 The old farm house picture was converted in PS Raw and the numbers you gave 
 Paul 
 came up
 as the 
 defaults.
 
 Dave  
 
I shoot with that lens quite often, but only in RAW mode. Of 
 course in-
 camera settings
 have no effect on RAW images. In conversion, I find that the default ACR 2.4 
 contrast
 setting is just about right for good exposures of most subject matter. When 
 converting
 full-frame images to 144 meg files, I turn the converter sharpness level down 
 to 
 ten and
 sharpen with USM after conversion. For images where I want everything to pop, 
 I 
 set it at
 261%, 1.5 picas, threshold 11. For portraits, I generally use only about half 
 of 
 that or
 less. For some images, I apply locally. But those numbers are my maximum USM 
 application
 for files from that lens.
  Paul
   -- Original message --
  From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   Just getting familiar with the my new ds and 16-45 ed DA zoom.  Because I 
   have a innate lazy side, I am wondering what in-camera settings( 
   saturation, sharpness, contrast) ds owners have found to be the most 
   satisfactory.  Do you stick with the default settings and do any 
   adjustments post shooting?   I realize I should shoot some comparison 
   exposures to compare, but this will give me some feed back that will be 
   very helpful.
   
   DG
   
  
 
   
 
 



Re: ist ds Settings

2006-03-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It turns off the flash screen You are now using Aperture Priority  
or some such nonsense whenever you change a mode.


Godfrey

On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:



On Mar 3, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


- turn guide display off


What does this one do?

-Aaron





Re: ist ds Settings

2006-03-03 Thread brooksdj
I did not know that.(in my best Johnny Carson Voice.)

Well i DID go out at lunch today and i picked up Bruce Frasers book Real world 
Camera Raw
with 
Adobe PS CS.

Hopfully this will explain some things.:-)
Expensive at $49.99 Canadian, but from what Shel and others have said,should be 
worth it.

Dave

 While doubling the percentage increases the amount of 
overall sharpening, raising the
threshold level reduces the way it's applied -- as nearly as I can tell through 
simple
examination of the results. So your Nikon vs. Pentax USM settings may not be as 
disparate
as you believe. I do remember someone saying that RAWs vary considerably. 
Different
cameras process them in various ways. However, I'm not techy, so my 
understanding of this
is very limited. I do know that the default settings in the RAW converter 
differ from one
camera to another. So if you convert at the default setting, the converter may 
be applying
different levels of sharpening as well.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Paul, and others.
  
  I really notice a difference in sharpening from the Nikon files to the 
  Pentax 
  files.If i
  forget to sharpen an 
  image and print it out at home it still look good. The pentax is a lot 
  softer. 
  if i
  forget.
  
  Nikon file gets by with 75-90%, 0.3 picas, and threshold to 0.
  
  Pentax, and more so with the 16-45 is at least double the % and i use 1,3 
  and 
  threshold of
  5 , i think.
  
  The old farm house picture was converted in PS Raw and the numbers you gave 
  Paul 
  came up
  as the 
  defaults.
  
  Dave
  
   I shoot with that lens quite often, but only in RAW mode. Of 
  course in-
  camera settings
  have no effect on RAW images. In conversion, I find that the default ACR 
  2.4 
  contrast
  setting is just about right for good exposures of most subject matter. When 
  converting
  full-frame images to 144 meg files, I turn the converter sharpness level 
  down to 
  ten and
  sharpen with USM after conversion. For images where I want everything to 
  pop, I 
  set it at
  261%, 1.5 picas, threshold 11. For portraits, I generally use only about 
  half of 
  that or
  less. For some images, I apply locally. But those numbers are my maximum 
  USM 
  application
  for files from that lens.
   Paul
-- Original message --
   From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just getting familiar with the my new ds and 16-45 ed DA zoom.  Because 
I 
have a innate lazy side, I am wondering what in-camera settings( 
saturation, sharpness, contrast) ds owners have found to be the most 
satisfactory.  Do you stick with the default settings and do any 
adjustments post shooting?   I realize I should shoot some comparison 
exposures to compare, but this will give me some feed back that will be 
very helpful.

DG