Re: jpg oddity

2013-11-30 Thread Boris Liberman

I presume you are off by 10 binary orders of magnitude, Stan...

I suppose you meant 305 Kb and not 305 Mb, did you?

On 11/26/2013 9:24 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

I was wondering how LR would be able to handle the RAW to jpg conversion on my 
Chaos image for the PUG. As I suspected, the chaotic image did not compress as 
readily as my usual shots, and I had to bring down the 0-100 quality slider in 
LR. As I went through a series of trial-and-error settings, I was very 
surprised to find a discontinuity of sorts.

At a quality setting of 70, the file was 305mb as reported by my iMac OS-X 
10.7.5.
At a quality setting of 69 the file size dropped all the way to 264mb.

By comparison, I usually use a quality rating of 82-89 to compress one of my 
RAW images to a 300mb PUG submission.

stan




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Re: jpg oddity

2013-11-30 Thread Stan Halpin

On Nov 30, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 I presume you are off by 10 binary orders of magnitude, Stan...
 
 I suppose you meant 305 Kb and not 305 Mb, did you?
 
 On 11/26/2013 9:24 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 I was wondering how LR would be able to handle the RAW to jpg conversion on 
 my Chaos image for the PUG. As I suspected, the chaotic image did not 
 compress as readily as my usual shots, and I had to bring down the 0-100 
 quality slider in LR. As I went through a series of trial-and-error 
 settings, I was very surprised to find a discontinuity of sorts.
 
 At a quality setting of 70, the file was 305mb as reported by my iMac OS-X 
 10.7.5.
 At a quality setting of 69 the file size dropped all the way to 264mb.
 
 By comparison, I usually use a quality rating of 82-89 to compress one of my 
 RAW images to a 300mb PUG submission.
 
 stan
 

Yep. But at least I was consistently wrong!

stan
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jpg oddity

2013-11-26 Thread Stan Halpin
I was wondering how LR would be able to handle the RAW to jpg conversion on my 
Chaos image for the PUG. As I suspected, the chaotic image did not compress as 
readily as my usual shots, and I had to bring down the 0-100 quality slider in 
LR. As I went through a series of trial-and-error settings, I was very 
surprised to find a discontinuity of sorts. 

At a quality setting of 70, the file was 305mb as reported by my iMac OS-X 
10.7.5. 
At a quality setting of 69 the file size dropped all the way to 264mb.

By comparison, I usually use a quality rating of 82-89 to compress one of my 
RAW images to a 300mb PUG submission.

stan
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Re: jpg oddity

2013-11-26 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

 As I went through a series of trial-and-error settings, I was very surprised 
 to find a discontinuity of sorts.

 At a quality setting of 70, the file was 305mb as reported by my iMac OS-X 
 10.7.5.
 At a quality setting of 69 the file size dropped all the way to 264mb.

http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/jpeg-quality

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Re: jpg oddity

2013-11-26 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Matthew. I wasn't particularly concerned about using a low quality 
setting because of articles like this that I've seen before. But I did not 
recall the analysis exposing the 0-100 scale as a gimmick, masking an 
underlying 0-12 scale. So, oddity explained.

stan

On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Stan Halpin
 s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 
 As I went through a series of trial-and-error settings, I was very surprised 
 to find a discontinuity of sorts.
 
 At a quality setting of 70, the file was 305kb as reported by my iMac OS-X 
 10.7.5.
 At a quality setting of 69 the file size dropped all the way to 264kb.
 
 http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/jpeg-quality
 
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Re: jpg oddity

2013-11-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Stan Halpin wrote:

I was wondering how LR would be able to handle the RAW to jpg conversion on my 
Chaos image for the PUG. As I suspected, the chaotic image did not compress as 
readily as my usual shots, and I had to bring down the 0-100 quality slider in 
LR. As I went through a series of trial-and-error settings, I was very 
surprised to find a discontinuity of sorts. 

At a quality setting of 70, the file was 305mb as reported by my iMac OS-X 
10.7.5. 
At a quality setting of 69 the file size dropped all the way to 264mb.

This is pretty well known. It also exists in Photoshop where you save
JPEGs on a scale from 1-12: Quality setting 6 yields larger files than
quality setting 7. (Also, quality settings 11 and 12 yield larger
files but no better image quality than setting 10.)
http://www.impulseadventure.com/photo/jpeg-quantization.html

 
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Re: jpg oddity

2013-11-26 Thread Ken Waller
And I've noticed something similar in PS - with some images, lowering the 
quality slider will sometimes produce larger jpeg files. I remember reading 
why this occurs but have since forgotten.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info

Subject: jpg oddity


I was wondering how LR would be able to handle the RAW to jpg conversion on 
my Chaos image for the PUG. As I suspected, the chaotic image did not 
compress as readily as my usual shots, and I had to bring down the 0-100 
quality slider in LR. As I went through a series of trial-and-error 
settings, I was very surprised to find a discontinuity of sorts.


At a quality setting of 70, the file was 305mb as reported by my iMac OS-X 
10.7.5.

At a quality setting of 69 the file size dropped all the way to 264mb.

By comparison, I usually use a quality rating of 82-89 to compress one of 
my RAW images to a 300mb PUG submission.


stan



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