lighting thoughts/questions

2011-12-24 Thread luiz felipe

Larry's words...
I wonder if anyone has tried simulating a ring light for macro work, 
by putting a studio strobe with umbrella directly behind the camera and 
triggering the camera with a cable release?


In a similar vein, what is the fabric that is used for shoot through 
umbrellas, soft boxes etc?  It seems I could make a really big softbox 
for a lot less than it would cost to buy, if I bought the right fabric, 
plastic or whatever is used for the diffuser.



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Larry, I did use a large softbox and a small silver umbrella behind the 
camera some two or three times, but results did not get me smiling - the 
umbrella gave better results for my taste, but more often I'd place the 
light from a side or use the softbox as part of a light tent, not always 
at the top. My tests happened in studio - it's conceivable to get some 
structure to use an umbrella attached to the camera in the field, 
probably even available somewhere.


A friend and teacher built a gadget with a glass panel at 45 deg from 
the camera, that would receive a studio flash and reflect part of the 
blast towards the subject's face. He wanted to do some portraits with a 
fully frontal light, no shadows visible and wanted real power. Results 
were interesting to a point, but the glass at our disposal then (1982-3, 
Brasilian northeast) made him quit. I suggested a hole in front of the 
lens, but he also wanted to get rid of donut shaped reflections on eyes.


As for the clothing/ plastic used on softboxes, I used white plastic, 
vegetable paper and ordinary white synthetic cloth to repair or 
improvise softboxes and light diffusers in the past - color casts were 
the issue since most of the time I'd be using slide film, but a slight 
cast was better than failing to present the pic. It helped when all 
lights used the same solution. The softboxes available here in Br do age 
and develop some color cast sooner or later - so I'll probably have to 
repair mine soon, again.


ps: as the first try to send this msg failed, I looked at the other 
answers and there is some rig to use umbrellas that way.


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luiz.felipe at luizfelipe.fot.br

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RE: lighting thoughts/questions

2011-12-24 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen


I wonder if anyone has tried simulating a ring light for macro work,
by putting a studio strobe with umbrella directly behind the camera
and triggering the camera with a cable release?

In a similar vein, what is the fabric that is used for shoot through
umbrellas, soft boxes etc?  It seems I could make a really big
softbox for a lot less than it would cost to buy, if I bought the
right fabric, plastic or whatever is used for the diffuser.


An idea I've been thinking about for a while and might pursue if I ever 
get "a round tuit" is taking the strobes off a bunch of disposable 
cameras and building some kind of ring platform to mount them on; maybe 
a plastic "bundt cake" pan would work.


Gotta be careful to make sure the electrical components are protected; 
sealed away where they can't zap you.


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Re: lighting thoughts/questions

2011-12-23 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Dec 23, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Dec 23, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if anyone has tried simulating a ring light for macro work, by 
>> putting a studio strobe with umbrella directly behind the camera and 
>> triggering the camera with a cable release?
> 
> I used to use a device called a sof' shoulder for macro. It's no longer 
> available, but it was an umbrella and flash on a rig that was positioned it 
> over the photographer's shoulder. It worked well
>> 

I should add that I found the umbrella rig better than a ring light, in that 
the light wasn't as flat. 


>> In a similar vein, what is the fabric that is used for shoot through 
>> umbrellas, soft boxes etc?  It seems I could make a really big softbox for a 
>> lot less than it would cost to buy, if I bought the right fabric, plastic or 
>> whatever is used for the diffuser.
>> 
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Re: lighting thoughts/questions

2011-12-23 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Dec 23, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> I wonder if anyone has tried simulating a ring light for macro work, by 
> putting a studio strobe with umbrella directly behind the camera and 
> triggering the camera with a cable release?

I used to use a device called a sof' shoulder for macro. It's no longer 
available, but it was an umbrella and flash on a rig that was positioned it 
over the photographer's shoulder. It worked well
> 
> In a similar vein, what is the fabric that is used for shoot through 
> umbrellas, soft boxes etc?  It seems I could make a really big softbox for a 
> lot less than it would cost to buy, if I bought the right fabric, plastic or 
> whatever is used for the diffuser.
> 
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lighting thoughts/questions

2011-12-23 Thread Larry Colen
I wonder if anyone has tried simulating a ring light for macro work, by putting 
a studio strobe with umbrella directly behind the camera and triggering the 
camera with a cable release?

In a similar vein, what is the fabric that is used for shoot through umbrellas, 
soft boxes etc?  It seems I could make a really big softbox for a lot less than 
it would cost to buy, if I bought the right fabric, plastic or whatever is used 
for the diffuser.


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