Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-20 Thread cbwaters
Batteries were dead meaning the camera wouldn't work or just that the
indicator was showing them as empty?
As you've read, there's no trusting the battery indicator.

Cory

- Original Message - 
From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:37 PM
Subject: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night


 Yesterday I attended a friend's wedding.  I took along the D and a couple
of
 lenses and flash.  I was pretty much in snap-shooter mode taking
pictures
 of my ex-coworkers, friends, the wife, etc. and having a grand old time.

 At the beginning of the event I decided to replace an old set of Lithium
AAs
 for a set of Sunpak rechargeable NiMHs.  I had just charged them so they
 were very fresh.

 20 frames later (I was using AF, the camera was set for 3sec review and
 every few shots I would hit the play button to show someone a goofy
picture)
 the batteries were dead.

 Luckily, one of my wacky friends had a huge pack of AA alkalines in his
car.
 I put a set in and shot another 70 frames or so during the night.  They
are
 still in the camera going strong.

 What's the deal with the NiMHs?

 Christian Skofteland
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-20 Thread Peter Alling
But the did have lovely plumage.

At 09:49 AM 1/20/04, you wrote:
The camera wouldn't work.  At all.  I tried the turn off then on again
trick.  Nada.  I removed the batteries and put them back in.  Zip!  The
batteries were dead, flat, they had ceased to be!  they were non-batteries!
even nailing them to their perch wouldn't help!
Christian

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night
 Batteries were dead meaning the camera wouldn't work or just that the
 indicator was showing them as empty?
 As you've read, there's no trusting the battery indicator.

 Cory
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  



Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yesterday I attended a friend's wedding.  I took along the D and a couple of
lenses and flash.  I was pretty much in snap-shooter mode taking pictures
of my ex-coworkers, friends, the wife, etc. and having a grand old time.

At the beginning of the event I decided to replace an old set of Lithium AAs
for a set of Sunpak rechargeable NiMHs.  I had just charged them so they
were very fresh.

20 frames later (I was using AF, the camera was set for 3sec review and
every few shots I would hit the play button to show someone a goofy picture)
the batteries were dead.

Luckily, one of my wacky friends had a huge pack of AA alkalines in his car.
I put a set in and shot another 70 frames or so during the night.  They are
still in the camera going strong.

What's the deal with the NiMHs?

You may have defective batteries or just not good enough batteries.
there are a lot of differences between various NiMH batteries, even
amongst those with identical ratings. Read the Imaging Resource battery
article at http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM

The Powerex 2200 are supposedly the best. They're available from Thomas
Distributing at http://www.thomas-distributing.com/mh-4aa220.htm

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-19 Thread bucky
I have never experienced such a problem - it must be dependent on the camera.  
I've had very good battery life so far.  The batt. grip rocks, AFAIAC.



Quoting Dr. Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Did you use the battery grip? There seems to be some strange behaviour  
 when using NiMH and the grip. The camera tells you that the batteries  
 are empty, but when you remove the batteries from the grip, then the  
 *istD works fine. I don't know the reaosn, but it is under investigation  
 ;-).
 
 Cheers, Heiko
 
 




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Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-19 Thread Dr. Heiko Hamann
Hi,

on 19 Jan 04 you wrote in pentax.list:

I have never experienced such a problem - it must be dependent on the camera.
I've had very good battery life so far.  The batt. grip rocks, AFAIAC.

There are several identical observations here in Germany. In fact - we  
haven't found one *istD/D-BG1-combination that has no problem. Try the  
following: put some NiMH batteries in your camera and the grip. Connect  
the camera to your PC via USB. Switch on the camera an copy some images  
from/to the camera using USB. If you don't see any problem, than repeat  
it 2-3 times (switching the camera on/off each time). Somewhen the  
camera will tell you that the batteries are empty and switch off. Now  
take the batteries out of the grip and switch the camera on. It will  
work fine although it has told you that the batteries are empty only a  
minute ago...

Cheers, Heiko



Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-19 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I've shot 300-400 frames on a set on 2000 Mah NiMH and still had them
 showing good.
 There are times though, that they LCD will show dead, but turning the
camera
 off and back on resets it to full.

Been there done that

Christian



Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-19 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - 
From: Dr. Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi Christian,

 Did you use the battery grip? There seems to be some strange behaviour
 when using NiMH and the grip. The camera tells you that the batteries
 are empty, but when you remove the batteries from the grip, then the
 *istD works fine. I don't know the reaosn, but it is under investigation
 ;-).


Actually, I have the grip but removed it before the evening so I would have
a smaller package to carry around with me.

Christian



Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-19 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 You may have defective batteries or just not good enough batteries.
 there are a lot of differences between various NiMH batteries, even
 amongst those with identical ratings. Read the Imaging Resource battery
 article at http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM
 
 The Powerex 2200 are supposedly the best. They're available from Thomas
 Distributing at http://www.thomas-distributing.com/mh-4aa220.htm

I'm thinking they are in the not good enough category.

Christian



rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
Yesterday I attended a friend's wedding.  I took along the D and a couple of
lenses and flash.  I was pretty much in snap-shooter mode taking pictures
of my ex-coworkers, friends, the wife, etc. and having a grand old time.

At the beginning of the event I decided to replace an old set of Lithium AAs
for a set of Sunpak rechargeable NiMHs.  I had just charged them so they
were very fresh.

20 frames later (I was using AF, the camera was set for 3sec review and
every few shots I would hit the play button to show someone a goofy picture)
the batteries were dead.

Luckily, one of my wacky friends had a huge pack of AA alkalines in his car.
I put a set in and shot another 70 frames or so during the night.  They are
still in the camera going strong.

What's the deal with the NiMHs?

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-18 Thread Ryan Brooks
Christian Skofteland wrote:

20 frames later (I was using AF, the camera was set for 3sec review and
every few shots I would hit the play button to show someone a goofy picture)
the batteries were dead.
 

You should get a lot more than that.   My father's istD with 2200mAh 
NiMH's seems to run all day.

-Ryan Brooks



Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-18 Thread Christian Skofteland
exactly

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: Ryan Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night


 Christian Skofteland wrote:

 20 frames later (I was using AF, the camera was set for 3sec review and
 every few shots I would hit the play button to show someone a goofy
picture)
 the batteries were dead.
 
 
 
 You should get a lot more than that.   My father's istD with 2200mAh
 NiMH's seems to run all day.

 -Ryan Brooks




Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-18 Thread Bill Owens
I've shot 300-400 frames on a set on 2000 Mah NiMH and still had them
showing good.
There are times though, that they LCD will show dead, but turning the camera
off and back on resets it to full.  I think it has something to do with the
current draw when transferring from the buffer to the CF card.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:37 PM
Subject: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night


 Yesterday I attended a friend's wedding.  I took along the D and a couple
of
 lenses and flash.  I was pretty much in snap-shooter mode taking
pictures
 of my ex-coworkers, friends, the wife, etc. and having a grand old time.

 At the beginning of the event I decided to replace an old set of Lithium
AAs
 for a set of Sunpak rechargeable NiMHs.  I had just charged them so they
 were very fresh.

 20 frames later (I was using AF, the camera was set for 3sec review and
 every few shots I would hit the play button to show someone a goofy
picture)
 the batteries were dead.

 Luckily, one of my wacky friends had a huge pack of AA alkalines in his
car.
 I put a set in and shot another 70 frames or so during the night.  They
are
 still in the camera going strong.

 What's the deal with the NiMHs?

 Christian Skofteland
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2004 at 22:39, Bill Owens wrote:

 I've shot 300-400 frames on a set on 2000 Mah NiMH and still had them
 showing good.
 There are times though, that they LCD will show dead, but turning the camera off
 and back on resets it to full.  I think it has something to do with the current
 draw when transferring from the buffer to the CF card.

I'm with Bill, my 2100mAh batteries last ages, I made the mistake of buying 
three sets, they last so long I could have easily survived on only two.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-18 Thread Bill Owens
Hey Rob, I ended up with 4 sets.  They work great in my AF360FGZ too :-)

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night


 On 18 Jan 2004 at 22:39, Bill Owens wrote:

  I've shot 300-400 frames on a set on 2000 Mah NiMH and still had them
  showing good.
  There are times though, that they LCD will show dead, but turning the
camera off
  and back on resets it to full.  I think it has something to do with the
current
  draw when transferring from the buffer to the CF card.

 I'm with Bill, my 2100mAh batteries last ages, I made the mistake of
buying
 three sets, they last so long I could have easily survived on only two.

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998






Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-18 Thread mapson

What's the deal with the NiMHs?

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
We use 2 types of NiMhs that we got for our *istD.

One came with the charger (GP2100), the other we purchased afterwards 
(Energizer - 21mAh).

Usually a set of GPs goes in the camera and E's go in the grip. We took 
(several times) over 800 photos in one day without having to replace the 
batteries. The camera is set to 1s review and quite often we go back and 
look at pics taken. Flash used with, let's say, 10% of photos.

I think your batteries were not charged well or are faulty. Or you have a 
power-hungry camera (but I don't think so)



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
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Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night

2004-01-18 Thread mapson

We use 2 types
I mean 2 brands!

of NiMhs that we got for our *istD.

One came with the charger (GP2100), the other we purchased afterwards 
(Energizer - 21mAh).
That is 2100mAh, of course!

Writing while half-asleep doesn't help! ;-D



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
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