Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/11/14 Tue PM 11:52:58 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room Bob W wrote: Actually Ann, I think you are seeing a mixed metaphor in 'the 800 pound gorilla in the room'. One person talked about the 800 pound gorilla. as being, basically, the alpha male, silverback or dominant person, which is quite a convincing metaphor, but it seems to have got itself mixed up with the elephant in the room, which is a different kettle of fish. er... large kettle, what? Personally, I think a gorilla should cost a lot more than 800 pounds, but that's eBay for you. -- Cheers, Bob doggedly optmistic are you? ohoh, here we go again ann I've got Gnus for you. He's lion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: 14 November 2006 20:45 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room What is fascinating is the slight variations on what all of you (who answered quickly, so apparently have no lives :) :) ) mentioned. I had kinda guessed wrong about the origin, I see. Thanks to you all! ann Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. The 800-pound gorilla is a metaphor for any person or agency that is so big and powerful that he/she/it dominates totally and whom no one can challenge. Adobe is the 800-pound gorilla of the image editing software business Frank Theriault is the 800-pound gorilla of the blurry photo business etc. etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
I think it's a twist on the old joke, Where does an 800 pound gorilla sleep? Any where he wants to. rim shot (thank you very much I'll be here all week...) ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. The 800-pound gorilla is a metaphor for any person or agency that is so big and powerful that he/she/it dominates totally and whom no one can challenge. Adobe is the 800-pound gorilla of the image editing software business Frank Theriault is the 800-pound gorilla of the blurry photo business etc. etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
My guess is it started off as an elephant and mutated into a gorilla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_the_room On 11/14/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
I'm familiar with it as the term 'the elephant in the living room', meaning something big, obvious and difficult to avoid that people don't want to talk about, but can't miss. For example, Tony Blair tries to avoid talking about the lies etc. leading up to the war in Iraq, tries to forget that it has all turned into a disaster and urges us to 'move on', but as far as his incumbency as PM is concerned, Iraq is the elephant in the living room. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skye Sent: 14 November 2006 19:07 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room My guess is it started off as an elephant and mutated into a gorilla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_the_room On 11/14/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. The 800-pound gorilla is a metaphor for any person or agency that is so big and powerful that he/she/it dominates totally and whom no one can challenge. Adobe is the 800-pound gorilla of the image editing software business Frank Theriault is the 800-pound gorilla of the blurry photo business Dont forget: Mark Roberts is the 800-pound gorilla of the metaphor business etc. etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
Either that or I've heard it sometimes used in the same context as, the elephant in the room. A very well known or obvious condition relating to one or more present, but yet unaddressed. Jack --- Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. The 800-pound gorilla is a metaphor for any person or agency that is so big and powerful that he/she/it dominates totally and whom no one can challenge. Adobe is the 800-pound gorilla of the image editing software business Frank Theriault is the 800-pound gorilla of the blurry photo business Dont forget: Mark Roberts is the 800-pound gorilla of the metaphor business etc. etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
I think it goes back to an old joke: What does an 800 pound gorilla eat? Whatever the hell he wants to eat! Bob On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. The 800-pound gorilla is a metaphor for any person or agency that is so big and powerful that he/she/it dominates totally and whom no one can challenge. Adobe is the 800-pound gorilla of the image editing software business Frank Theriault is the 800-pound gorilla of the blurry photo business etc. etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
What is fascinating is the slight variations on what all of you (who answered quickly, so apparently have no lives :) :) ) mentioned. I had kinda guessed wrong about the origin, I see. Thanks to you all! ann Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. The 800-pound gorilla is a metaphor for any person or agency that is so big and powerful that he/she/it dominates totally and whom no one can challenge. Adobe is the 800-pound gorilla of the image editing software business Frank Theriault is the 800-pound gorilla of the blurry photo business etc. etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
Actually Ann, I think you are seeing a mixed metaphor in 'the 800 pound gorilla in the room'. One person talked about the 800 pound gorilla. as being, basically, the alpha male, silverback or dominant person, which is quite a convincing metaphor, but it seems to have got itself mixed up with the elephant in the room, which is a different kettle of fish. Personally, I think a gorilla should cost a lot more than 800 pounds, but that's eBay for you. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: 14 November 2006 20:45 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room What is fascinating is the slight variations on what all of you (who answered quickly, so apparently have no lives :) :) ) mentioned. I had kinda guessed wrong about the origin, I see. Thanks to you all! ann Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. The 800-pound gorilla is a metaphor for any person or agency that is so big and powerful that he/she/it dominates totally and whom no one can challenge. Adobe is the 800-pound gorilla of the image editing software business Frank Theriault is the 800-pound gorilla of the blurry photo business etc. etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room
Bob W wrote: Actually Ann, I think you are seeing a mixed metaphor in 'the 800 pound gorilla in the room'. One person talked about the 800 pound gorilla. as being, basically, the alpha male, silverback or dominant person, which is quite a convincing metaphor, but it seems to have got itself mixed up with the elephant in the room, which is a different kettle of fish. er... large kettle, what? Personally, I think a gorilla should cost a lot more than 800 pounds, but that's eBay for you. -- Cheers, Bob doggedly optmistic are you? ohoh, here we go again ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: 14 November 2006 20:45 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: way OT: 800 pound gorilla in the room What is fascinating is the slight variations on what all of you (who answered quickly, so apparently have no lives :) :) ) mentioned. I had kinda guessed wrong about the origin, I see. Thanks to you all! ann Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: any of you guys know where this originated? it is turning up in a commerical here in the USA - seems to me to mean something akin to sticking out like a sore thumb. the gorilla says but what do I know, I'm only the 800 pound gorilla in the room after offering advice to a couple pondering something or other - maybe investments. The 800-pound gorilla is a metaphor for any person or agency that is so big and powerful that he/she/it dominates totally and whom no one can challenge. Adobe is the 800-pound gorilla of the image editing software business Frank Theriault is the 800-pound gorilla of the blurry photo business etc. etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net