Re: wide angle zoom comparison...
Robert White (England) used to sell Voigtlander stuff below the US prices, and I bought quite a bit of stuff from him for a few years. I know that shipping to/from US/AUS can be prohibitive, are there also VAT issues? I once thought of buying an Epiphone guitar from Australia (a discontinued model), but the shipping via air was prohibitive. And you can forget getting a bicycle shipped from AUS to US. Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:54 -0600, "Jeffery Smith" > wrote: >> The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under? > > > Tan is. > > The interesting thing about prices down under is that, although the $A > has been approaching or at parity with the $US in recent months, lens > prices have remained high in comparison with those in the US. It's a > much smaller market, of course. The prices Tan quoted are about right > for one of the more reputable on-line sellers here. They would probably > be even higher at the usual High Street shops. > > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > >> >> >> On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote: >> >>> Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite >>> varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and >>> the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking >>> that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely >>> lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish >>> interiors. Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such >>> an issue... >>> >>> I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit >>> lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an >>> interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at >>> 18mm. I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish >>> eye, which is why I included the 16-50. I don't EVER use zooms anymore >>> unless I really have to. I shoot almost exclusively these days with my >>> FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or >>> I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge, >>> heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding >>> photography days... >>> >>> Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the: >>> >>> 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 >>> Or >>> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 >>> >>> I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow. >>> >>> Interested to hear any further thoughts? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and > love email again > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wide angle zoom comparison...
I plan to look into repair. I've also realized that a cheap 18-55 might be useful as well. -Original Message- From: drd1...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:04:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: wide angle zoom comparison... I can well you a really cheap FA 20-35 that no longer focuses correctly ;-) -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:10:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: wide angle zoom comparison... I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really seem to have three different classes of lens based on AOV. A Wide to Normal, a wider to telephoto and two ultra wides. Right now I only have the equivalent of the Wide to Normal, (Pentax FA 20-35mm), most times I don't find I need anything wider. You might want to look at it as an alternative to the Sigma 20-40. The Pentax is a stop slower but it's sharp with great contrast and very high resolution. The only problem is that it's no longer available new, though that usually means you can pick one up for about $300 US. KEH actually has one in stock now, though shipping to Australia might be problematic. On 11/23/2010 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on > it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast > enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your > words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: > > 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 > 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 > 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 > 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 > > Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually > get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone > has any experience with it? > I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your > feedback first... > > Tan.x. > > > Tanya Love > Photographer > > www.lovebytes.com.au > www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto > www.loveandsoul.com.au > m: 0458 006 740 > > > -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tanya Love wrote: >So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on >it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast >enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your >words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: > >1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 >2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 >3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 >4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 The 16-50 would be my first choice unless you really, really need to go wider. The SDM focusing, weather sealing and excellent build quality are important considerations. Optically, it's as good as all but the most expensive primes. It's probably my most-used lens. Of the other three, the only one I've used is the Pentax 12-24. It's a very good lens. Obviously a stop slower than the 16-50 and lacks the weather sealing. I bought the Pentax 12-24 after considering the Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6. In the end, I couldn't accept the weird distortion of the Sigma. You list the newer Sigma 10-20/3.5 which may be better (ought to be, given the price) but I've never tried one. I wouldn't have any worries about the build quality of the EX series Sigmas, though: I've owned two (and still have one) and they're as good or better built than the DA* Pentax zooms. Really solid. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That would be the Sigma lens. On Nov 24, 2010, at 7:01 AM, paul stenquist wrote: > With the k5, the 12-24 won't be too slow, because you'll be gaining a minimum > of two stops of upward ISO latitude over the K-7. That said, Adam has a very > high opinion of the Sigma lense. I don't have much confidence in Sigma > quality, but it might be worth giving this one a try. > Paul > On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > >> Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite >> varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and >> the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking >> that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely >> lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish >> interiors. Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such >> an issue... >> >> I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit >> lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an >> interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at >> 18mm. I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish >> eye, which is why I included the 16-50. I don't EVER use zooms anymore >> unless I really have to. I shoot almost exclusively these days with my >> FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or >> I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge, >> heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding >> photography days... >> >> Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the: >> >> 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 >> Or >> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM- about $927 >> >> I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow. >> >> Interested to hear any further thoughts? >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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With the k5, the 12-24 won't be too slow, because you'll be gaining a minimum of two stops of upward ISO latitude over the K-7. That said, Adam has a very high opinion of the Sigma lense. I don't have much confidence in Sigma quality, but it might be worth giving this one a try. Paul On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite > varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and > the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking > that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely > lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish > interiors. Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such > an issue... > > I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit > lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an > interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at > 18mm. I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish > eye, which is why I included the 16-50. I don't EVER use zooms anymore > unless I really have to. I shoot almost exclusively these days with my > FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or > I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge, > heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding > photography days... > > Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the: > > 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 > Or > 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 > > I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow. > > Interested to hear any further thoughts? > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Of course! The WR sealing! I hadn't even thought of that, and I have been doing a lot of beach stuff lately where I say to myself "my camera is sealed, my FA lens is not"... That should be one of my major considerations actually, so pretty much discounts anything Sigma. Maybe I should just suck it up and handle the slowness of the 12-24mm... hm, decisions, decisions. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2010 5:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: wide angle zoom comparison... On 11/24/2010 4:44 AM, paul stenquist wrote: > Have you actually tried both? I did a quick and dirty test of the > Sigma and found it seriously lacking. LIke most Sigma's it's build > quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Pentax 12-24, on the other > hand, is an excellent lens. > > Paul Paul, I've cheaper Sigma 24-60/2.8 EX lens and it's build quality is second to none. I've held and shot with DA* 16-50/2.8 and Sigma is built just as good. The only thing Sigma lacks is WR sealing, but that's known in advance. If other Sigma EX lenses are built like 24-60/2.8, I see no reason to worry. The QC and sample variation are an issue, but it seems that no manufacturer is immune to this particular detriment. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/24/2010 4:44 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Have you actually tried both? I did a quick and dirty test of the Sigma and found it seriously lacking. LIke most Sigma's it's build quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Pentax 12-24, on the other hand, is an excellent lens. Paul Paul, I've cheaper Sigma 24-60/2.8 EX lens and it's build quality is second to none. I've held and shot with DA* 16-50/2.8 and Sigma is built just as good. The only thing Sigma lacks is WR sealing, but that's known in advance. If other Sigma EX lenses are built like 24-60/2.8, I see no reason to worry. The QC and sample variation are an issue, but it seems that no manufacturer is immune to this particular detriment. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tanya, there is also Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 EX that has some acclaim. On 11/24/2010 3:10 AM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Stan Halpin wrote: Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is that the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the 18-55 for when you need a bit longer. Later when you sell another catalog or two you can upgrade the 18-55 to a 16-50. If you get the 16-50 now, you've increased quality but you haven't expanded your options. What Stan said. I strongly support his view on this topic and I love the 12-24. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:54 -0600, "Jeffery Smith" wrote: > The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under? Tan is. The interesting thing about prices down under is that, although the $A has been approaching or at parity with the $US in recent months, lens prices have remained high in comparison with those in the US. It's a much smaller market, of course. The prices Tan quoted are about right for one of the more reputable on-line sellers here. They would probably be even higher at the usual High Street shops. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > > > Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite > > varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and > > the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking > > that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely > > lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish > > interiors. Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such > > an issue... > > > > I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit > > lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an > > interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at > > 18mm. I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish > > eye, which is why I included the 16-50. I don't EVER use zooms anymore > > unless I really have to. I shoot almost exclusively these days with my > > FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or > > I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge, > > heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding > > photography days... > > > > Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the: > > > > 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 > > Or > > 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 > > > > I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow. > > > > Interested to hear any further thoughts? > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you are looking for something wider than the kit lens (18mm) then I don't know how a 16mm even qualifies. I have the Sigma 10-20mm f4.5-5.6 and love it. Shots with the 10-20mm (both models): http://www.flickr.com/groups/sigma10-20/ A few more here: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/84539-sigma-10-20mm-club.html Discussion about deciding between the two models: http://www.flickr.com/groups/sigma10-20/discuss/72157625417016048/ I think it is interesting that owner reviews of the f4-5.6 are 4-1/2 stars (Amazon) while the f3.5 version are only 4 stars. Maximum aperture isn't everything (by a long shot). Another lens to consider might be the Tamron SP 10-24mm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's really not an either or choice there. Those are complementary lenses. The difference in AOV between the minimum focal lengths will be huge. 109.5° at 10mm vs 83° at 16mm (measured diagonally but you get the idea). So the answer is you should get them both. Now, isn't that easier? On 11/23/2010 11:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish interiors. Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such an issue... I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at 18mm. I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish eye, which is why I included the 16-50. I don't EVER use zooms anymore unless I really have to. I shoot almost exclusively these days with my FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge, heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding photography days... Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the: 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 Or 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow. Interested to hear any further thoughts? -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under? Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite > varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and > the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking > that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely > lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish > interiors. Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such > an issue... > > I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit > lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an > interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at > 18mm. I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish > eye, which is why I included the 16-50. I don't EVER use zooms anymore > unless I really have to. I shoot almost exclusively these days with my > FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or > I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge, > heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding > photography days... > > Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the: > > 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 > Or > 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 > > I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow. > > Interested to hear any further thoughts? > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely lens and I considered it a while back but f4, with moving babies and darkish interiors. Of course, when I get my hands on my new K-5, it won't be such an issue... I do know also that the 16-50, isn't too much different from the 18-55 kit lens that I currently have, but you know I NEVER use it unless it is for an interior or a funky looking fashion shot and it is almost ALMOST used at 18mm. I'd love something a little wider, but not to the point of being fish eye, which is why I included the 16-50. I don't EVER use zooms anymore unless I really have to. I shoot almost exclusively these days with my FA50mm 1.7 or my FA100m f2.8 macro and very occasionally with the 18-55mm or I also have a 28-70mm/f2.8 Tokina that is getting on now but is a huge, heavy lens and gives fine results and used to be my main lens in my wedding photography days... Anyways, I think I pretty much have it narrowed down to either the: 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 Or 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 I just think that the 12-24mm is just that bit too slow. Interested to hear any further thoughts? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You might want to try to get it repaired. It might just need an adjustment and no replacement parts. On 11/23/2010 11:04 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I can well you a really cheap FA 20-35 that no longer focuses correctly ;-) -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:10:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: wide angle zoom comparison... I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really seem to have three different classes of lens based on AOV. A Wide to Normal, a wider to telephoto and two ultra wides. Right now I only have the equivalent of the Wide to Normal, (Pentax FA 20-35mm), most times I don't find I need anything wider. You might want to look at it as an alternative to the Sigma 20-40. The Pentax is a stop slower but it's sharp with great contrast and very high resolution. The only problem is that it's no longer available new, though that usually means you can pick one up for about $300 US. KEH actually has one in stock now, though shipping to Australia might be problematic. On 11/23/2010 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I can well you a really cheap FA 20-35 that no longer focuses correctly ;-) -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:10:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: wide angle zoom comparison... I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really seem to have three different classes of lens based on AOV. A Wide to Normal, a wider to telephoto and two ultra wides. Right now I only have the equivalent of the Wide to Normal, (Pentax FA 20-35mm), most times I don't find I need anything wider. You might want to look at it as an alternative to the Sigma 20-40. The Pentax is a stop slower but it's sharp with great contrast and very high resolution. The only problem is that it's no longer available new, though that usually means you can pick one up for about $300 US. KEH actually has one in stock now, though shipping to Australia might be problematic. On 11/23/2010 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on > it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast > enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your > words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: > > 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 > 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 > 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 > 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 > > Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually > get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone > has any experience with it? > I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your > feedback first... > > Tan.x. > > > Tanya Love > Photographer > > www.lovebytes.com.au > www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto > www.loveandsoul.com.au > m: 0458 006 740 > > > -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really seem to have three different classes of lens based on AOV. A Wide to Normal, a wider to telephoto and two ultra wides. Right now I only have the equivalent of the Wide to Normal, (Pentax FA 20-35mm), most times I don't find I need anything wider. You might want to look at it as an alternative to the Sigma 20-40. The Pentax is a stop slower but it's sharp with great contrast and very high resolution. The only problem is that it's no longer available new, though that usually means you can pick one up for about $300 US. KEH actually has one in stock now, though shipping to Australia might be problematic. On 11/23/2010 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:44 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: >>> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on >>> it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast >>> enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your >>> words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: >>> >>> 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 >>> 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 >>> 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 >>> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 >>> >>> Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually >>> get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone >>> has any experience with it? >>> I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your >>> feedback first... >>> >>> Tan.x. >>> >> >> The 20-40 isn't wide at all, I'd skip it (it's intended for a >> Full-frame camera) and the 16-50's a general purpose zoom. >> >> This is one case where I'd unabashedly recommend the Sigma. The 10-20 >> f3.5 is simply a better lens than Pentax's good but not exceptional >> 12-24 and the Sigma's cheaper as well. > > Have you actually tried both? I did a quick and dirty test of the Sigma and > found it seriously lacking. LIke most Sigma's it's build quality leaves a lot > to be desired. The Pentax 12-24, on the other hand, is an excellent lens. > > Paul > I've tried both versions of the Sigma (the older f4-5.6 version which I owned in Nikon mount and the new f3.5 version which will probably be the only APS-C lens to be added to my current Sony/Minolta kit), the Tokina and the Pentax version of the 12-24 (same optics). The build quality on the Pentax is no better than the Sigma, although it does feel better at first glance (the Sigma EX lenses are very well built but feel kinda plasticky when new. It's due to a rubberized coating on the barrel). The optics in both the Pentax and Tokina 12-24's were inferior to the older Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6, mostly at the edge at wide apertures. The current 10-20 f3.5 (which is optically better than the older f4-5.6 version) is simply the best UW zoom for APS-C cameras on the market after the Tokina 11-16 (which isn't available in K mount) Frankly, I wouldn't consider the Pentax unless there was a cost savings for it over the Sigma, it's certainly not worth any premium. It's a good lens but not worth more than half of what it costs new outside the US, pricing is MUCH better at B&H, it's a $50 difference rather than a 50% difference like it is here in Canada. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: >> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on >> it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast >> enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your >> words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: >> >> 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 >> 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 >> 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 >> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 >> >> Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually >> get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone >> has any experience with it? >> I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your >> feedback first... >> >> Tan.x. >> > > The 20-40 isn't wide at all, I'd skip it (it's intended for a > Full-frame camera) and the 16-50's a general purpose zoom. > > This is one case where I'd unabashedly recommend the Sigma. The 10-20 > f3.5 is simply a better lens than Pentax's good but not exceptional > 12-24 and the Sigma's cheaper as well. Have you actually tried both? I did a quick and dirty test of the Sigma and found it seriously lacking. LIke most Sigma's it's build quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Pentax 12-24, on the other hand, is an excellent lens. Paul > The only lens in this range > I'd consider over the Sigma is Tokina's incredible 11-16 f2.8 but it's > not available in Pentax mount. > > Don't get me wrong, the 12-24's a good lens (as is the Tokina 12-24 > where the design originates) but the Sigma is definitely better. It's > wider, faster, sharper and has better AF. > > -Adam > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What Stan said. The 12-24 is probably the best choice for you at the present time. Paul On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is > that the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the 18-55 > for when you need a bit longer. Later when you sell another catalog or two > you can upgrade the 18-55 to a 16-50. If you get the 16-50 now, you've > increased quality but you haven't expanded your options. > > stan > > On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > >> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on >> it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast >> enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your >> words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: >> >> 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 >> 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 >> 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 >> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM- about $927 >> >> Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually >> get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone >> has any experience with it? >> I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your >> feedback first... >> >> Tan.x. >> >> >> Tanya Love >> Photographer >> >> www.lovebytes.com.au >> www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto >> www.loveandsoul.com.au >> m: 0458 006 740 >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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'Round here, they'd just assume I was drunk and give me a ride home. It's a vicious cycle. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Not a problem in the South. You just have to go through the window INTO a house, and the owner shoots you. Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures tall enough from which to defenestrate myself. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not a problem in the South. You just have to go through the window INTO a house, and the owner shoots you. Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures > tall enough from which to defenestrate myself. > > -- Walt > > On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: >> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on >> it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast >> enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your >> words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: >> >> 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 >> 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 >> 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 >> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM- about $927 >> >> Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually >> get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone >> has any experience with it? >> I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your >> feedback first... >> >> Tan.x. >> >> >> Tanya Love >> Photographer >> >> www.lovebytes.com.au >> www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto >> www.loveandsoul.com.au >> m: 0458 006 740 >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures tall enough from which to defenestrate myself. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on > it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast > enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your > words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: > > 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 > 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 > 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 > 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 > > Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually > get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone > has any experience with it? > I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your > feedback first... > > Tan.x. > The 20-40 isn't wide at all, I'd skip it (it's intended for a Full-frame camera) and the 16-50's a general purpose zoom. This is one case where I'd unabashedly recommend the Sigma. The 10-20 f3.5 is simply a better lens than Pentax's good but not exceptional 12-24 and the Sigma's cheaper as well. The only lens in this range I'd consider over the Sigma is Tokina's incredible 11-16 f2.8 but it's not available in Pentax mount. Don't get me wrong, the 12-24's a good lens (as is the Tokina 12-24 where the design originates) but the Sigma is definitely better. It's wider, faster, sharper and has better AF. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is that the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the 18-55 for when you need a bit longer. Later when you sell another catalog or two you can upgrade the 18-55 to a 16-50. If you get the 16-50 now, you've increased quality but you haven't expanded your options. stan On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on > it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast > enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your > words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: > > 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 > 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 > 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 > 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 > > Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually > get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone > has any experience with it? > I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your > feedback first... > > Tan.x. > > > Tanya Love > Photographer > > www.lovebytes.com.au > www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto > www.loveandsoul.com.au > m: 0458 006 740 > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I do and it is a great lens, only nit is some CA I'm seeing HTH Ecke 2010/11/24 Jeffery Smith : > I vote for #2, and I don't even have it. > > Jeffery > > On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > >> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on >> it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast >> enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your >> words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: >> >> 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 >> 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 >> 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 >> 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 >> >> Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually >> get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone >> has any experience with it? >> I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your >> feedback first... >> >> Tan.x. >> >> >> Tanya Love >> Photographer >> >> www.lovebytes.com.au >> www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto >> www.loveandsoul.com.au >> m: 0458 006 740 >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How wide do you need? The 12-24 is clearly the nicest wide zoom here. I'm looking for a zoom as well, but I just want a walking around lens. In all seriousness, you are a pro and need to cover all focal lengths with fairly good glass. -Original Message- From: "Tanya Love" Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:10:03 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: wide angle zoom comparison... So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wide angle zoom comparison...
I vote for #2, and I don't even have it. Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on > it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast > enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your > words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: > > 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 > 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 > 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 > 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 > > Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually > get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone > has any experience with it? > I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your > feedback first... > > Tan.x. > > > Tanya Love > Photographer > > www.lovebytes.com.au > www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto > www.loveandsoul.com.au > m: 0458 006 740 > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
wide angle zoom comparison...
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
