Happy birthday Ann!

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A very happy birthday to Ann, that most charming lady who has done more than 
anyone to keep this list alive and lively!

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Re: test 2

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Paul

> On Dec 12, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I see both.

I see dead people.

> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 12:55 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> checking # 2 to see which account is subscribed
>> 
>> G
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Re: Pentax is considering releasing a new film camera

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I’ve shot film on rare occasions. I still have several Spotmatics and Spotmatic 
ads, an H3V, an MX and an LX. But the last two times I shot film were with an 
Agfa and a Barnack Leica.

Paul

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 5:56 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> I can't count to 10: I found in my cupboard 2 MX, 1 K2, 1 P30, 1 P30T, 2
> Spotmatic, 1 MZ-5.
> The others I own are digital (*istD, K10D, K-5, K-70, K-1).
> I've sold very few camera's because of poor interest and their low market
> value.
> With so many cheap second hand film bodies and compacts on the market I see
> therefore no future for this project.
> Perhaps indeed a high end film compact as a collectors item.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op di 20 dec. 2022 om 23:17 schreef Daniel J. Matyola > :
> 
>> I still have one of myb old Spotties.  ,g.
>> 
>> I suspect this is aimed at the "collectors" in Japan, who are willing to
>> pay big Yen for just about anything "rare."
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
>> *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 11:46 AM Henk Terhell 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://photorumors.com/2022/12/19/pentax-is-considering-to-release-a-new-film-camera/#ixzz7o1jx6LCE
>>> 
>>> Don't know whether there will be much interest for this, but I still have
>>> some 10 Pentax reflex bodies in my cupboard.
>>> 
>>> Henk
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Re: OT Mail

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Check incarceration records.

Paul

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 12:46 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 1/6/2023 11:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> You had to mention Dobo and Mafud?
>> 
>> I try to forget them, but I miss many of the old crew, especially Knarf.
>> 
>> We should make an effort to reach out to them and see what they are doing.
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> 
> You start with Dobo, I'll see if I can find Bruce Rubenstein.
> 
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Re: OT Mail

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The list was originally about Pentax gear and photography. With new Pentax 
products few and far between and many members shooting other brands, there’s 
little to talk about. And there’s Facebook where photos usually garner more 
interest.

Paul

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
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> I wish there were more people actively participating here. Looking into the 
> archives at pdml.net , on this date ten years ago there 
> were 63 messages. Yesterday there was one.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2023, at 9:03 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
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>> It's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3-4 days, what a great time to sit
>> down and go through 37K of gmail's and delete.
>> Some of my pdml ones date back to dec 2010
>> 
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Re: Donations to the cause

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Done

Paul

> On Jan 8, 2023, at 2:18 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
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> Gang,
> 
> if you wish to help with keeping the hamsters who power the pdml in fine 
> fettle, you can shoot a few bucks to my email at paypal. I also have a venmo 
> account, (at DFBrewer) if you swing that way.
> 
> Other options entertained if you contact me.
> 
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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

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Usenet is a relatively ancient system for posting information, messages and the 
like. It was originally phone based relying on dial up modems. It’s now 
internet based. It’s very basic and straightforward. Although you need an 
access app, you don’t have to subscribe to a service like Facebook. It’s rather 
inelegant but old timers embrace it as a computer geek badge of honor.

Paul

> On Jan 10, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> If I knew what a UseNet was it might help ;-)
> 
> The PDFG now has 25 members and is an extension of this list - not a 
> replacement! I will try and drive traffic to the list where I can, and 
> promote the PUG, but to be honest it’s mostly PDML members.
> 
> Sent from my flu-ridden bed!
> 
> Cot
> 
> 
> On 10 Jan 2023, at 21:27, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> What about starting a Pentax UseNet group?
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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

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I don’t mean to disparage Usenet. Just pointing out that it’s old and now 
somewhat obscure. Email, by the way has benefited from its universality and 
consequently, the continuous refinement of email apps.

Paul

> On Jan 10, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> 
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 2:07 PM, Comcast  wrote:
>> 
>> Usenet is a relatively ancient system for posting information, messages and 
>> the like. It was originally phone based relying on dial up modems. It’s now 
>> internet based. It’s very basic and straightforward. Although you need an 
>> access app, you don’t have to subscribe to a service like Facebook. It’s 
>> rather inelegant but old timers embrace it as a computer geek badge of honor.
> 
> I resemble that.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
> 
> I looked up RFC 850, and it dates to 1983, so the transition from UUCP to the 
> internet is about 40 years old, so it’s not like it’s recent.  One could also 
> say a lot of the same things about email (and yes red4est used to get its 
> email via dial up uucp and bang path) but it’s not like people tend to 
> disparage email as something that people used to do over their phones.
> 
> Hmm, the more things change…
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

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The 24-70/2.8 is my most used “normal” lens. It’s a reliable workhorse and 
quite sharp even wide open. I too would like the K3-3, but at my age I can’t 
spend like I once did, so my K-3 and K-1 will suffice.

Paul

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 11:43 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> It was recently observed that there is almost no discussion of Pentax gear, 
> or even gear for your Pentax, on this list lately.
> 
> Let's get this kick started:  What gear is on your shopping list, or at least 
> your wish list? Why do you want it?  Why haven't you bought it yet?
> 
> The two major pieces of kit on my "want" list, are the DFA 24-70/2.8, and the 
> K-3 III.
> 
> Over the past couple of weeks, I've kind of wanted a weather sealed, "fast", 
> daily driver lens.  I already have a Tamron 28-70/2.8 and the DFA 
> 28-105/3.5-5.6 which is WR.  So I do have weather sealed in that range, and I 
> do have a f/2.8 lens in that range.  I also have the 16-50/2.8 which works 
> just fine on my K-3.  So, I already have the lenses that pretty much surround 
> that specific bit of functionality.
> 
> As to the K-3 III, what I really want would be a K-1 III, a K-1 with all of 
> the nifty features they've added to the K-3 III (though I don't really need 
> the fancy pentaprism for the larger field of view, because it's already 
> bigger), plus a modern sensor.  The K-3 was released almost 7 years ago, I 
> mostly use mine these days when I either want a wide angle of view, with a 
> fast lens, or when I need the best sensor performance available to me in 
> challenging light.  I would not be surprised if when you compared the final 
> images, the K-3 III sensor outperformed the K-1.  
> 
> Since a K-1 III isn't available, or even announced, there are a lot of things 
> the K-3 III does better than my K-1, but I have barely had a chance to take 
> any photos at all the past year, and I haven't really had any chance to 
> photograph in conditions where I'm up against the performance limits of 
> either of my Pentax camera bodies.  I have very little reason not to hold off 
> on buying a K-3 III until either the price drops, or they sell a major 
> upgrade to the K-1.  
> 
> The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it 
> barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.
> 
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Re: First time birding

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I call them House Spartows as does Audubon. I’ve shot hundreds in my backyard. 
This shot would benefit from midrange contrast, easily achieved with limits 
adjustment.
Paul


> On Jan 16, 2023, at 2:43 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> we calls 'em ENGLISH sparrows  over here.. they are frequent visitors to the 
> fire escape outside my window.  They hang with the pigeons.  I'm
> surprised to hear Rick ask who he is - as they frequent his neighborhood as 
> well.  Now I suspect he will find them everywhere.. :-)
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 1/16/2023 1:35 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>> It's a male British House Sparrow, Passer domesticus.  Generally regarded as 
>> a pest in the USA.  Was once one of the most common birds here but it 
>> getting to be substantially rarer.  Send it back home.
>> 
 On 15/01/2023 17:03 Rick Womer  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Very nice Collin! I’m impressed with the sharpness after the cropping, and 
>>> the DOF is used very well.
>>> 
>>> What sort of bird is it?
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2023, at 3:56 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
 
 Wanted to go to my favorite city park to shoot today because, as so rarely 
 happens on a central Ohio winter day, the sun came out. I parked at the 
 first open trail and there was this bunch of fat birds working to survive 
 the winter. This crop is about 1/9 the original. It’s just a square out of 
 the center.
 
 http://collinbrendemuehl.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/bird1.jpg
 
 I shot about 30 images but too many had bush branches in the way.
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Re: First time birding

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They are no more than a single bite, although the liver is delicious. Sincr 
Avian flu created a shortage of frying chickens, there are no more cats in the 
’hood. 

Paul

> On Jan 16, 2023, at 6:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> After you shoot them, do you eat them or feed them to the cats?  
> 
> Yes, the correct name is House Sparrow, but English Sparrow is also used
> for the same bird by some folks.
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 6:05 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> Comcast wrote:
>> 
>>> I call them House Spartows as does Audubon. I’ve shot hundreds in my
>> backyard.
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Re: First time birding

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Thanks for letting me know.

Paul

> On Jan 19, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
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> Paul,
> 
> Your posts are coming through with Comcast as your name.
> 
> Hope they’re paying you well!
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2023, at 6:38 PM, Comcast  wrote:
>> 
>> They are no more than a single bite, although the liver is delicious. Sincr 
>> Avian flu created a shortage of frying chickens, there are no more cats in 
>> the ’hood. 
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>>> On Jan 16, 2023, at 6:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After you shoot them, do you eat them or feed them to the cats?  
>>> 
>>> Yes, the correct name is House Sparrow, but English Sparrow is also used
>>> for the same bird by some folks.
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 6:05 PM  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Comcast wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I call them House Spartows as does Audubon. I’ve shot hundreds in my
>>>> backyard.
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Re: Something for Henk

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But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the best of 
it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t have to 
compete with a robot for my job.

Paul

> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
>>> Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
>>> perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
>>> More of such fantasy work will be our future.
>> 
>> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
>> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: OT: Fancy Camera Strap

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I use a Black Rapid dtrsp. It‘s long,   D esigned for cross chest use and 
bulletproof. The camera slides on the strap so it can be raised without moving 
the strap. It’s the only strap I’ll use. 

BlackRapid RS-4 Retro Classic, Original Camera Sling Design, Strap for DSLR, 
SLR and Mirrorless Cameras, for Right-Handed and Left-Handed Photographers, 
with On-The-Fly Sling Length Adjuster https://a.co/d/0Evq5Nk
 

Paul

> On Jan 30, 2023, at 9:50 PM, Richard Dell  wrote:
> 
> Measured mine  
> set at about 50" or so,
> with an additional 25" available,
> 13" in the strap,and 6" in each camera attachment.
> (quick releases similar to the Tamron's and others)
> ... truly extraordinary max. of 75".
> 
> I tend to use compatible quick release buckle (maybe Tamron)
> camera attachment straps for extra bodies, but those are shorter
> than what measurement says is 16" max for these
> now no-name straps (label says StrapToIt)
> 
>> On January 30, 2023 9:11:51 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>>  wrote:
>> I looked at that project. The neat part of the base plate is that it takes 
>> the load off the standard lugs (not designed for that kind of carry) and 
>> puts the load at the base which allows the camera to lay flat more reliably. 
>> 
>> It's primarily targeted to work with an SLR or largish EVF camera's shape 
>> and largish lenses. It would be mostly useless with the different form 
>> factor and relatively small/light lenses of a Leica M, for instance. 
>> 
>> I use the Peak Design Leash strap, which max out at about 145cm (57 inches) 
>> (plus a couple cm for the anchor bits). It's light, very strong, and easy to 
>> use cross body, as well as easily length adjustable to suit your body and 
>> preferences. It can be taken on and off a camera in a couple of seconds. A 
>> nice strap! 
>> 
>> G
>> 
 On Jan 30, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Richard Dell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've always carried my cameras like that ... 
>>> you just need a longer than normal strap, no fancy base bracket.
>>> Also use an ancient Galen Rowell chest pouch 
>>> as a waist pack to secure same setup at my side when not scrambling.
>>> 
>>> (though I would love to find a good source for long straps, 
>>> mine I found in a drugstore in Williansport, PA in late '80s, 
>>> bought out their stock when I went back a year later,
>>> never found a better strap sinc, though I have shopped)
>>> 
>>> On January 30, 2023 8:16:05 PM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>>>  wrote:
 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spinn-design/spinn-cp-camera-carrying-reimagined
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Re: OT: Fancy Camera Strap

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Yes, that’s correct. So I can mount the camera on the tripod with the strap 
attached. Since the trap is a sling it’s quite long, so I sometimes boop the 
strap over my head when using the tripod. It provides insurance againt spills. 
Paul

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 5:43 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Not sure I understand. Does your Arco type plate have an additional tripod 
> socket on the plate itself so you can leave the plate in place & screw the 
> Black Rapid's connector into the plate?
> 
>> On 2/1/2023 4:53 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> The Black Rapid attaches to a tripod socket as well. I bought an Arco type 
>> tripod plate that includes a tripod socket adjacent. It remains on the 
>> camera full time.
>> Paul
 On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:51 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looks like the target market is photographers who use sling straps that 
>>> attach to the tripod socket on the bottom of a camera. One problem with 
>>> those is you have to disconnect the strap to put the camera on a tripod.
>>> 
>>> My Sun-Sniper strap clips on to the ring for a Manfrotto RC2 adapter, but I 
>>> still have to UN-clip to mount the camera on a tripod.
>>> 
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Re: Price of K3-III dropping in Europe

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$1596 US at Amazon

Paul

> On Feb 5, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 2/4/2023 4:39 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>> AC-Foto of Aachen, Germany, list the K3-III at 1839 minus an 'instant
>> rebate' of 300 euros. i.e. 1539 euros.
>> 
> One of the stores that I shop in Canada (The Camera Store) has it listed at a 
> Can$300.00 price drop. It's listed at $2199.00 They also still have K70s 
> listed with a Can$40.00 price drop, listed price is $727.42.
> 
> bill
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Re: PESO: Traveller's Palm

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Nice photo of an amazing tree, but hard to get to from the link.

Paul

> On Feb 13, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> This is an interesting tree, growing against a wall of a building across
> from the one in which our condo unit is located.
> 
> It is a Ravenala, commonly known as the traveller's tree, traveller's palm
> or East-West palm, from Madagascar. It is not a true palm, but a member of
> the family Strelitziaceae.  It has been given the name "traveller's palm"
> because the sheaths of the stems hold rainwater, which supposedly could be
> used as an emergency drinking supply for needy travellers.  Another
> plausible reason for its name is that the fan tends to grow on an east–west
> line, providing a crude compass.
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2023/2/13/traveler
> 
> K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135 mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR
> Comments, criticisms, questions, and suggestions are invited and
> appreciated.
> 
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Re: PESO: Twisted tree at Sunset

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Excellent shot. And this link worked well,

Paul

> On Feb 13, 2023, at 7:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> From yesterday's trip to the beach to watch another glorious Maui sunset:
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2023/2/13/bent
> 
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Re: K-3 III first shots

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Love Mazda3. Spent a week with one when I wrote about their unique engine 
technology. Driving that little honker was a hoot!

Paul

> On Mar 9, 2023, at 1:48 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> The first photo I took with my K-3 III was of the Mazda 3 that I've had for 
> two weeks.
> 
> I've also taken a few of the camellia tree in my yard, starting to bloom, and 
> a couple of silly test shots yesterday at lunch where I was testing out shake 
> reduction.  It seems that it ran out at about 0.4 Seconds.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720306567461
> 
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Re: Mouse/trackball question

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A Wacom tablet is best but there’s a learning curve. Although I think you’ll 
spend some time growing accustomed to any new tool. Me? I use Apple’s Magic 
Mouse. A Mickey Mouse device, but I’ve been using a conventional mouse in 
photoshop for 25 years.

Paul

> On Mar 14, 2023, at 8:46 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I have been using a Logitech trackball for my photo computer for years, and 
> it is wearing out. It has a red ball operated by one’s right thumb, and a 
> vertical scroll wheel and two buttons operated by index and second fingers.
> 
> What should I replace it with?
> 
> I have a Kensington Expert Mouse on my work computer; it has a huge 
> trackball, four buttons, and a scroll wheel surrounding the track ball. I 
> tried it on the photo computer and it was awkward.
> 
> Other suggestions?
> 
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Re: St. Patrick's Day in Berkeley

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A nice pic!

Paul

> On Mar 19, 2023, at 10:37 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Fridy my wife and I drove up to Berkeley to catch a
> St. Patrick's Day gig at the Freight & Salvage (a music
> venue).  Getting there was a nightmare - instead of the
> hour and a quarter that Google Maps was estimating when
> we left home it took us twice that - there were no less
> than three separate accidents that were slowing traffic.
> Fortunately we'd allowed for that, and still got to the
> venue on time.
> 
> We were there to see The Black Brothers - two members
> of an Irish family well know in their country of origin
> who moved to Berkeley quite some time ago.
> 
> I didn't have a camera with me, as the Freight's website
> explicitly states that no photography will be allowed.
> As you can imagine I was more than a little annoyed to
> find out that this was not the case - photography is
> restricted, but not outright forbidden. (I was rather
> looking forward to finding out just how well my current
> camera did when compared to some older shots I'd taken
> in the Freight's previous venue using my PZ-1p and the
> A* 300/2.8)
> 
> 
> Fortunately I was not totally without a camera - I had
> my phone (a Google Pixel 6a)in my pocket.  I got this:
> 
>  
> 
> I'm more than a little impressed!
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Re: epson 2400

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I would guess that the lousy colors are the result of mismatched calibration 
and/or letting the printer (rather than photoshop or Lightroom) control color.

Paul

> On Mar 22, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my desk
> is around 3 years.
> My current printer for about a year is an Epson 2410 which prints B/W OK,
> but has lousy colours.
> 
> I just came across a new funny YouTube video 'Why Printers Are Designed To
> Fail: The Frustrating Truth'.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op wo 8 mrt 2023 om 22:48 schreef David J Brooks :
> 
>> I went to print a document this afternoon and when I turned on my Epson
>> 2400 printer, the green light came on for a short moment, I heard a
>> clicking sound then the paper jam and low ink red lights started to flash
>> alternatively.
>> 
>> Anyone run into this issue with a 2400, its about 15 years old
>> 
>> I did notice a blob of coloured ink on a piece of foam on the left hand
>> edge of the printer head rail, could that be it
>> ??
>> 
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

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Ouch! Serious damage. That looks like a several day outage. Light candles! (Or 
curse the darkness.)

Paul

> On Mar 23, 2023, at 5:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I haven’t had a chance to finish my GESO from Tuesday night, but someone saw 
> my house on the news. In the opening sequence you can see my van and trailer 
> in the background.
> 
> https://www.ksbw.com/article/traffic-jams-in-santa-cruz-mountains-from-falling-trees/43381711
> 
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Re: Bob, Dan, Godfrey, Bill, Collin and I are alive...

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I’m also alive but too busy to engage in conversations about the weather or why 
members rarely post. It ‘s a hassle to post a peso here. First , it has to be 
posted somewhere else, and then a link has to be posted here. I bit the bullet 
and posted one last week. Zero response. Perhaps because I actually used a 
Pentax camera and lens. Or maybe the photo sucked but I thought there was a 
story there. On Facebook the same pic prompted a discussion. 

I’ve always contributed when Doug indicated that the kitty had run dry. Perhaps 
it’s time to call it quits and let the list die. 

Paul

> On Mar 28, 2023, at 6:23 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> um...
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 3/28/2023 5:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> Is anyone else?
>> 
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Re: GESO (9) - Penn Campus Magnolias

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Beauties!

Paul

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Friday afternoon had perfect weather, and we walked over to the Penn campus. 
>  The main quad’s magnolias were in full bloom.
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/March-2023/Penn-Campus-Magnolias/
> 
> After a windy weekend, things weren’t as pretty today.
> 
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Re: April PUG is up

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What Ann said. Fabulous set of pics!

Paul

> On Apr 6, 2023, at 9:34 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Oh what a great gallery! So interesting.. Can't even begin to pick a fave.. 
> such a good theme.  Windows next year??
> 
> Want to ask Paul where the abandoned house was.. out west, or in Wis?
> 
> aside to Brian, I took  that shot, kinda, back in the day.. went through 
> Virginia City
> more than once over the years between 1973 and 2002 . Seems to me someone
> used a different photo taken there for a PUG in the last year or so.. it is 
> one of the
> less kitschy of ghost towns that are tourist traps out west.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 4/6/2023 9:00 AM, Brian W wrote:
>> G'day all
>> 
>> Enjoy the new gallery here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
>> 
>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
>> let me know.
>> 
>> +
>> 
>> Next up: 'Just One Tree'
>> 
>> Full Submissions Guidelines are here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>> 
>> You can submit here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Brian
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: a couple of PESOS

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Nice work. 

Paul

> On Apr 14, 2023, at 2:10 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I actually took a camera with me today when I went out  to get a few steps 
> in - so for you non Facebook pals
> here are two :   sorry, not Pentax - Had to take the light weight one  - 
> NIkon cool Pix.
> 
> St Marks Place between 1st and 2nd ave..
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2022-miscellaneous-snaps/i-34XjKCv/A
> 
> Topkins square park Flora... I'm not sure what tree this is - but I should 
> know.  The bokeh background is amde up of cherry blossoms
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2022-miscellaneous-snaps/i-P9v7ncW/A
> 
> If you take these to full screen the title overlays  and the  buy thingy  
> disappear..
> 
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Re: TEST

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You‘re here, Ken

Paul

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Test No.1
> 
> 
> 
> Ken Waller
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Vacation suggestion

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We did that back in the day. Swapping in a Polaroid back for the film holder of 
a field camera or Speed Graphic to take a test exposure.

Paul

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:00 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> Long ago (51 years ago or so) a colleague took a photo workshop in Yosemite- 
> senior instructor was Ansel Adams. A major insight he brought back was 
> Ansel’s advice to use Polaroid film to preview exposure and composition prior 
> to the 35mm or 6x6 exposure.
> Stan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Mark Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>> 
> Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
> Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>>> 
>>> ...or take enough film.
>> 
>> When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a lens
>> of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of the film
>> I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot with the
>> DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to check
>> exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a great
>> benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.
>> 
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Re: ACR Enhanced Noise Reduction

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My computer is a 2015 iMac, but it has a 4 GHz i7 4-core. So while it’s not as 
fast as today’s best, it handles the ACR noise reduction in about a minute on a 
33 MH dng.

Paul

> On Apr 21, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I tried it. It does a very good job and a no brainer to apply, but
> very slow. You probably need a modern GPU, My GTX 1050 Ti is slow. Topaz is
> faster, can't decide which one is better, probably Topaz with some trial
> and error. It's very easy to create junk with Topaz. Sharpening in LR after
> Denoise is recreating some weird looking noise.
> 
> Toine
> 
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 21:22, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone else on the list tried this? It’s a function in the latest
>> version of ACR that is said to use SI for noise reduction. It does a very
>> nice job. Still trying to decide if it looks natural, but it can certainly
>> save a noisy shot.
>> 
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Re: A random XKCD strip that turned up today

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HAR! Love the obsessive photographers. They’re focused!

Paul

> On Apr 21, 2023, at 7:18 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> I occasionally see what a random XKCD strip turns up
> (I've got https://c.xkcd.com/random/comic/ bookmarked).
> 
> This one amused me:  https://xkcd.com/1014/
> 
> Cars and cameras - what's not to like?  :-)
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Re: ACR Enhanced Noise Reduction

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Do you like the results?

Paul

> On Apr 21, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I just completed a new computer build a few weeks ago as the newest version
> of Photoshop didn't like to play nice with my 2016 build. I went pretty
> high end as I hate doing this more than once every decade and wanted to
> future proof myself as much as possible.
> Denoise runs about 20 seconds on my K1 files.
> 
> bill
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 2:37 PM Comcast  wrote:
>> 
>> My computer is a 2015 iMac, but it has a 4 GHz i7 4-core. So while it’s
>> not as fast as today’s best, it handles the ACR noise reduction in about a
>> minute on a 33 MH dng.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Toine  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I tried it. It does a very good job and a no brainer to apply, but
>>> very slow. You probably need a modern GPU, My GTX 1050 Ti is slow. Topaz
>> is
>>> faster, can't decide which one is better, probably Topaz with some trial
>>> and error. It's very easy to create junk with Topaz. Sharpening in LR
>> after
>>> Denoise is recreating some weird looking noise.
>>> 
>>> Toine
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 21:22, Paul Stenquist 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone else on the list tried this? It’s a function in the latest
>>>> version of ACR that is said to use SI for noise reduction. It does a
>> very
>>>> nice job. Still trying to decide if it looks natural, but it can
>> certainly
>>>> save a noisy shot.
>>>> 
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Re: ACR Enhanced Noise Reduction

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I don’t know what “ransomware” is, but photoshop online has been a great deal. 
It’s installed on my box and faster than the last CC version. It costs ten 
bucks a month and includes bridge, ACR, photoshop, Lightroom and more. It 
upgrades automatically so I get all the latest features. 

Paul

> On Apr 22, 2023, at 9:56 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I"m guessing ON1 is something I can't afford :-(   The results are stunning  
> though..
> 
> I have sooo many slides..  LIke this shot of the Pride of Bruges .. more 
> interesting to my eye than the
> straight shot of the side of her...
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 4/22/2023 5:31 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> Am 21.04.23 um 21:22 schrieb Paul Stenquist:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else on the list tried this? It’s a function in the latest 
>>> version of ACR that is said to use SI for noise reduction. It does a very 
>>> nice job. Still trying to decide if it looks natural, but it can certainly 
>>> save a noisy shot.
>> 
>> All major image processing software appears to have some AI based
>> denoising function nowadays.
>> 
>> As some of you might know, I've ditched Adobe's ransomware in favour of
>> ON1 Photo RAW and its denoising never ceases to amaze me. Best of all,
>> it doesn't only work on RAW files from digital cameras but also on TIFF
>> files with analog film data and the results with scans of 25 year old
>> 400 ISO stock are incredible.
>> 
>> Whatever I throw at it, noisy stuff from my *istDS or grainy colour
>> film, I've got a bunch of shots that I'd never have published otherwise.
>> 
>> The same goes for DxO Photolab 6 but sadly it only works with RAW files,
>> not scans.
>> 
>> Here's an example from ON1. ISO 400 colour negative made even worse by
>> having it processed in a 1-hour-minilab, scanned after 25 years.
>> 
>> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/pride-of-bruges-fotoralfbe/45950975
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: ACR Enhanced Noise Reduction

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I don’t use Lightroom, but I know the Adobe photo package comes with a cloud 
version and an installed version. I use ACR and photoshop, save all my pics on 
two external drives and back them up on Dropbox.

Paul

> On Apr 22, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 22.04.23 um 18:51 schrieb Comcast:
>> I don’t know what “ransomware” is, but photoshop online has been a great 
>> deal. It’s installed on my box and faster than the last CC version. It costs 
>> ten bucks a month and includes bridge, ACR, photoshop, Lightroom and more. 
>> It upgrades automatically so I get all the latest features.
> 
> ...and you lose all your work and edits in Lightroom if you stop paying.
> Now, if this isn't a ransom I don't know what is.
> 
> Ralf
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Re: ACR Enhanced Noise Reduction

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Of course. But it’s also important to note that Adobe doesn’t hold one’s files 
for ransom.

Paul

> On Apr 22, 2023, at 4:09 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> It seems very easy for people to forget that what works, or doesn’t work, 
> for them is not a universal answer.  
> 
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2023, at 12:11 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 22.04.23 um 20:53 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi:
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I continue to be glad it's working well for you. It really doesn't 
>>> matter what sort of software you use as long as you're happy with it and it 
>>> gets the job you want done properly. :)
>> 
>> Amen to that.
>> 
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Re: ACR Enhanced Noise Reduction Photos

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Looks good. Not at all waxy to my eye. (Which is admittedly worn out.) 

I have a lot of pics I shot at 51200 when I was photographic tavern pool 
tournaments. Some were pushed a stop or more beyond that in post. I’ll have to 
dig some out. Sounds like fun. 

Paul

> On Apr 22, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I found a K5 file shot at ISO 51200. I doubt very much if I had in camera
> noise reduction turned on.
> The first image is the raw file at whatever defaults Lightroom opened it
> with.
> The second is with Denoise used, no other changes.
> I left a small amount of noise in to give the skin some texture. If you
> don't it starts to look waxy very quickly.
> I did have to save the original at a lower quality setting to keep the file
> size reasonable.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2ov8sHb
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2ov6piA
> 
> Enjoy
> 
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Re: PESO: Ile d'Aix

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Very nice. Good to see you’re shooting at night again. You always achieve drama.

Paul

> On Apr 23, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Some industrial nights and magic again, for a change. The cable layer
> Ile d'Aix in the floating dock in Dunkirk.
> 
> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/ile-daix-fotoralfbe/47311099
> 
> As always, comments and suggestions...
> 
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Re: Life Update:

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Sounds good. Your work will pay off. I’ve been there. Congratulations!. 

Paul

> On May 12, 2023, at 5:33 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
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> Things are looking up. I've found a house, made an offer & it has been 
> accepted.
> 
> My closing date for this house (the day I get the money from my buyer) is May 
> 31.
> 
> My closing date for the new house (the day I have to give THEM the money) is 
> June 1.
> 
> If I can get my buyer to agree I will stay in my old house until June 2 & 
> move directly into the new house. I've ordered one of those PODS containers 
> to facilitate the move.
> 
> But that means I got to get back to work now boxing stuff up & getting it 
> ready to go into the POD (or into storage - I already have two rental units, 
> one I've filled and another that's half full.
> 
> I think I may actually make my deadlines. Wish me luck.
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Re: Test 2

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Hi Ken,

Good to see you here!

Paul

> On May 21, 2023, at 11:00 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
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> Test 2
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Re: FS - 600mm FA outfit

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It was easy to find, and it looks great. You shot some wonderful pics with it. 
I’ll never forget that wolf!

Paul

> On May 31, 2023, at 3:17 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
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> Tthanks bill, appreciate the comment.
> 
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> Ken Waller
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> Ken, the for sale section of Pentax Forums is quite busy. your thread has
> already moved 7 posts down from the top. Make sure you monitor the section
> and be prepared to bump your thread as it may get buried fairly quickly if
> you don't get many replies to it.
> 
> bill
> 
>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 9:38 AM Ken Waller wrote:
>> 
>> The 600mm FA is f4.0, always has been.
>> 
>> 
>> Ken Waller
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>> Subject: Re: FS - 600mm FA outfit
>> 
>> What is the speed?
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2023 7:37:28 PM PDT, Ken Waller wrote:
>>> I just posted my 600mm FA lens outfit on Pentax Forums.
>>> 
>>> If interested, contact me directly.
>>> 
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Re: RIP Nolan

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“Couldn’t load post”

Paul

> On Jun 5, 2023, at 5:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> I just found out that Nolan Hinshaw, aka the articulate mandible, passed 
> away a couple of weeks ago. He wasn't a frequent contributor to PDML, but was 
> inclined to pop in with some obscure info here and there. While he wasn't a 
> close friend, I've known him since about 1990 and when I found out that he 
> used a Pentax, I pointed hi m to PDML, because with his eclectic range of 
> interests and propensity for puns, I figured he'd fit in well.
> 
> His son posted a note on facebook, which includes a photo of him with a 
> spotty, that looks like it was taken when the camera was new:
> https://www.facebook.com/swingingjaw/posts/6009315619194837
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Shooting in smoke

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The weather looked decent today although I think our air quality number was 
still around 150, so I shot a car that I had to cover for an editorial 
assignment. I was not happy with the long lens shots. There was definitely 
visible haze between lens and subject. Fortunately, Photoshop’s new haze filter 
sufficiently eliminated it to make the pics useable. I’m pleased and impressed.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwtj93cezl58ize/Mustang%202.lowres.jpg?dl=0

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Re: What Adobe product?

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The I-phone editing software on recent models is excellent, better than 
Elements.

Paul

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 3:15 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
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> 
>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t do much post-processing. 
> 
> I don’t either. The minor tweaking I do to get Images that are a bit more 
> vibrant that what the iPhone cameral produces. Realistically could be 
> dispensed with. I do frequently want to crop images, though.
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Re: Peso: seeing double

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Well done. I did some cibachrome in the ‘70s as well. Time consuming and 
dangerous but fun.

Paul

> On Jun 29, 2023, at 7:20 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> since Collin introduced the subject  of double exposures, albeit about those 
> done in camera .and since it is throw back thursday
> I though I'd show you one of mine that I had within easy reach that I made 
> sandwiching two slides in the enlarger.. producing a cibachrome print
> back in the late 70's.  I learned cibachrome printing from a friend and 
> co-worker back in the mid 70's .. learned that before I learned how to print 
> bw, oddly
> 
> anyway,  here..
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Scans-from-Chromes/i-WbLDKKk/A
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Re: Angry glitz chicken

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Very dark. Is this right out of camera or phone?

Paul

> On Jul 4, 2023, at 3:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> We’ve got some feral glitz chickens in the neighborhood.  One was hanging 
> out in the shade in our front yard yesterday when I had my camera ready to 
> get some pictures of mombird and her nest.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53020903352/in/album-72177720309537234/
> 
> full set
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720309537234
> 
> As an aside, I don’t think I posted these.  Some little bird made a nest in 
> the light sconce right outside the back/dining room door. Mombird flies away 
> anytime we walk out the door, so while she was gone I snapped a couple frames 
> of the eggs with the DA35 macro.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720309489827
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Re: IR Photography

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What Dave said. I was sorry to lose this capability when i sold the last of my 
*ist ds

Paul

> On Jul 18, 2023, at 1:14 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> I found my istD made for a great ir camera with the Hoya r72 filter
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:10 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> That's a very fine image, Ralf - I might try that myself.  My *ist-D has
>> been sitting on the shelf for most of the last seven years, it will be nice
>> to fire it up again.
>> 
>> 
>> John in Brisbane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ralf R Radermacher 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 6:13 PM
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Re: IR Photography
>> 
>>> Am 13.07.23 um 01:59 schrieb Larry Colen:
>>> 
>>> You'll need to focus based on the live view, which is what the sensor
>> sees, either that or manually focus based ton the distance scale and the
>> little red dot that shows the IR focus point.
>> 
>> Maybe even a little beyond the red dot which is calibrated for an IR
>> wavelength of around 750 nm corresponding to the usual near-infrared film
>> stock like Ilford SFX200 or Konica 750. The infrared sensitivity of a DSLR
>> sensor extends way beyond that, well into the 800's, shifting the focus
>> point even more.
>> 
>> And don't try to step down beyond f8 to gain more DOF. Aperture
>> diffraction at IR sets in a lot sooner than with visible light.
>> 
>> I've been using a #87 gelatine filter on my unmodified *istDS. This filter
>> is almost completely impervious to visible light.
>> 
>> Here's an example:
>> 
>> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/la-bistade-fotoralfbe/32223101
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: I'm looking for an external drive bay

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Amazon has a 2 tb Seagate for 110 bucks and a 5tb for 2 something. I think 
they’re internal SATAs, but cases are only about ten bucks.
Paul

> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> I realized that I was asking the wrong question.  An external NVME SSD over 
> USB-C would give me much better performance, and I really only need access to 
> the large drives when rummaging through my full archive, rather than my 
> working files.  
> 
> The SSD would be quieter and faster than spinny drives, and would be 
> excellent for first level "backup".  In a while, when I run out of space on 
> my current drives, I could build a new NAS for my everything archive, and 
> relegate my current drives to offsite backup.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:05 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> When I got a trashcan mac I also got an OWC thunderbolt 2 external drive bay 
>> to go with it.  Unfortunately, not only is it a bit loud, but when I use it 
>> as thunderbolt rather than USB it has a tendency to disconnect from my mac, 
>> so that I'm constantly getting warnings about missing drives etc.
>> 
>> Rather than investing in another external T-bolt bay, I want to get a USB-C 
>> external drive bay, and just use a T-bolt to USB-C adapter.  USB-C cables 
>> are a lot less expensive, and I'll be able to use it with newer machines.  
>> 
>> I don't need RAID. At the moment my backup strategy uses multiple copies of 
>> JBOD drives.  I don't mind it being something that would allow me to switch 
>> to RAID later, or I'll just invest in a newer NAS when it's time to retire 
>> my older Synology.  
>> 
>> My main archive is large enough that I don't want to hang multiple external 
>> drives off my computer.
>> 
>> I need at least two drive bays, three or more would be better.
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience with a good, quiet, preferably inexpensive, 
>> USB-C external drive enclosure?
>> 
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Re: I'm looking for an external drive bay

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Hope it works ou.

I bought an iMac 27 Retina 4K in 2015. I think I paid about 3K. Still working 
well, still fast enough for Photoshop and anything else I’d want to do. With a 
second Dell monitor it makes a nice work station

Paul

> On Jul 18, 2023, at 9:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 5:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Good to know. I have a bunch of SATAs, but will look elsewhere next time I 
>> have to expand—assuming I live that long!
> 
> I'm afraid that the longer I live, the more I seem to expand.  
> 
> Thanks to PG&E my home Linux box got fried, I bought a used mobo off a 
> friend, tried to build up a box, ran into some boot issue, that's when I went 
> with the NVME card, but the mobo wouldn't boot off it.  Grumble frotz, I was 
> in the middle of getting ready for the move to Riverside so the whole kit is 
> collecting dust about 400 miles from here. 
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Re: Hello all, been a while …

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Thanks guys!

Paul

> On Oct 23, 2023, at 4:38 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Well done Paul ! Interesting story and good images.
> 
> 
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> Hi Gang,
> 
> It's been years. But just today I saw a name on a Hagerty Auto
> article, "Paul Stenquist," and I stopped in my tracks and thought, "I
> know that name!".
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/4dexsnzu
> 
> Good work, Paul. I enjoyed that thoroughly.
> 
> Anyway, I hope everyone is enjoying themselves on the list. I myself
> haven't been shooting much at all. I no longer do any commercial
> photography but I'm still a "serial appreciator" of photography in
> general even if other things have muscled it to the sidelines these
> days.
> 
> Some may remember me selling a venerable Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4 for a
> 1967 Austin-Healey Sprite a long time ago. Well, it's almost
> finished...it's only been 12 years...
> 
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OT: System Renewal

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My 8 year old iMac 27 Retina K5 gave up the ghost. It had been getting flakey 
for awhile. When writing it would sometimes freeze and restart. I sometimes had 
to grabs snapshot of the screen if I didn’t have a recent save, and then type 
the text back in after a restart. Finally, it refused to start. The big loss 
was its 5k monitor which can’t be used separately. 

I had wanted to upgrade to a silicon Mac that could run the latest photoshop AI 
tools, so it’s timely, I bought a Mac Mini M2 Pro with much more processing 
power than my old iMac. For a monitor I bought a 32-inch LG 4K IPS screen, I’ll 
keep my old 27-inch IPS Dell as a second screen.all considered a fairly 
economical solution.

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Re: PESO: porcelain fungus

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Very nice!

Paul

> On Nov 15, 2023, at 4:49 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Today I finally saw the first group of porcelain fungus in this mushroom
> season.
> Here my first attempt with a stack of 9:
> https://flic.kr/p/2pfZGGA
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Peso Shelby Snake

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> Those who know cars, are probably aware that 99 out of 100 Cobras one sees 
> are replicas. This one is the real thing: a ‘64 without the bulging fenders 
> and huge heavy engine of later models. Shot it today for Hagerty. 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/b42wxao0rpyun3d8mdiin/cobra1.lowres.JPG?rlkey=vew351z96zg7shyoo8wcoo8bq&dl=0

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Re: Stabilized Eclipse Video

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Well done. Would be great with big glass!

Paul

> On Nov 15, 2023, at 8:37 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2pg1zWk
> 
> Wasn't as difficult as I thought it was going to be. One of my schemes 
> actually worked which smoothed production immensely.
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Re: Peso Shelby Snake

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Thanks. A fun shoot. Yep. Original color. But it’s one of one. A customer at 
Gotham Ford wanted a green  Cobra but AC needed months to produce a green car, 
so Shelby America  repainted a blue Cobra with a Lincoln metallic green. It’s 
the only Cobra with that color as original equipment.. 

Paul

> On Nov 15, 2023, at 8:42 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Very nice. Is that the original color?
> 
> I seem to remember you could have any color you wanted as long as it was 
> blue. 😉
> 
> On 11/15/2023 8:33 PM, Comcast wrote:
>>> Those who know cars, are probably aware that 99 out of 100 Cobras one sees 
>>> are replicas. This one is the real thing: a ‘64 without the bulging fenders 
>>> and huge heavy engine of later models. Shot it today for Hagerty.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/b42wxao0rpyun3d8mdiin/cobra1.lowres.JPG?rlkey=vew351z96zg7shyoo8wcoo8bq&dl=0
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Re: Peso Shelby Snake

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This one is a two owner car, never abused. I have to check the mileage before I 
write about it, but it’s very low.

Paul

> On Nov 15, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Very cool.
> 
> A net.friend off the britcars list had a beater 289 that he was the second 
> owner of.  I saw him driving it one day in all of its aluminum and bondo 
> glory.  Like many project cars, it took him a while to finish the body work, 
> fortunately, he didn't need to worry about rust, it being California and all. 
>  :-)
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2023, at 5:33 PM, Comcast  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Those who know cars, are probably aware that 99 out of 100 Cobras one sees 
>>> are replicas. This one is the real thing: a ‘64 without the bulging fenders 
>>> and huge heavy engine of later models. Shot it today for Hagerty. 
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/b42wxao0rpyun3d8mdiin/cobra1.lowres.JPG?rlkey=vew351z96zg7shyoo8wcoo8bq&dl=0
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DA* 60-250/4 on ebsy

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I offered this lens here a while back and have now put it on ebsy.  This was my 
workhorse when I shot regularly with the APS-C cameras. The SDM motor was 
replaced a whlle back with the latest version,and it was flawless thereafter.

I’m also selling my mint A50/1.0 in theoriginal packaging. Yes, the f1 
low-light super-bokeh champ. Used only a handful of times by several very 
cautious Pentaxians. I’ll let it go for $400 plus shipping.
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Re: Weather

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While there may be less to go wtong on an LF camera. They lack the weather 
protection of tme contemporary DSLRs. My K3 and K1 have been soaked repeatedly 
with no apparent ill effects. I wouldnt dare dov hat with my Speed Graphic.
Paul

> On Jan 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2024 at 02:56:36PM +, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
>> Back in the day
>> 
>> I was less concerned for my LF equipment out in the cold and snow than I am 
>> for this 35mm-class equipment.
> 
> Well, there's a whole lot less to go wrong on a large format camera than on a 
> modern setup.
> 
> I'm reasonably confident that pretty much every step I took in camera 
> ownership
> (Brownie 127 -> Hanimex 35mm -> Spotmatic II -> MX/ME -> PZ-1P -> MZ-S -> K5 
> -> E-M1X)
> came with an improvement in weather sealing.  It's easy to find online videos 
> showing
> people pouring water on an M1X, and Olympus tout their weather sealing as a 
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Re: PESO - selfie in the 'hood

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Interesting photo. Well seen!
Paul

> On Jan 18, 2024, at 10:42 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> Between FB and INSTAGRAM and PDML FB and using messenger online occasionally 
> where I see most of you, I've been mostly lurking here. confessing that any
> discussion of new tech of any photo related stuff is of little interest  I 
> hardly ever post here these days.  since I can see your photos (which does 
> interest me) elsewhere.
> I'm not doing much new stuff except editing archives and listing stuff  I'm 
> selling on ebay or on the create photo calendars site)
> 
> So for the few who haven't seen me for a while and only look/lurk here  - 
> this is a new one  taken a couple of days before my 87th birthday in Dec.  a 
> few blocks from
> my apt.  The thing that looks like a photo equip bag is an insulated lunch 
> bag for shopping .  I don't do any photo walks - just slip the tiniest camera 
> I have into my pocket
> when I go out and don't anticipate carrying too much other stuff on my way 
> home.  anyway, I kinda like this one.
> 
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2022-miscellaneous-snaps/i-MWvHQTs/A
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Re: Impressed again

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That’s a very versatile focal length. My DFA 24-70/2.8 is my go to lens. And I 
use it exclusively when travelling.
Paul

> On Jan 18, 2024, at 8:38 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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> During our recent trip to Amsterdam and Bruges (got home on Monday) I
> used just one lens the whole time: The old FA*28-70 f/2.8 (on the
> K-1). And having looked through most of the images I'm stunned once
> again at how good a lens that is.
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Re: Pentax APS-C cameras

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For a bicycle trip all one really needs is a top of the line phone. In good 
light and with the lens clean (very important with a phone) my iphone 12 pro 
mac is nearly as good as my Pentax K3, and an iphone 15 pro max is several 
generations better. And of course it privides GPS and great mapping capability. 
It can even be used to make a phone call! The era of compact cameras is over. 
Wrlcome to 2024.
Paul

> On Jan 20, 2024, at 4:37 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
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> For me it is incomprehensible that all smartphones have GPS but most DSLRs 
> and mirrorless not. For landscape and nature pictures it is so useful to have 
> it on my K-1. If GPS seems to easily fit in a flat phone, why not in an 
> APSC-C? For me this is another step forward to kill real cameras sales in 
> favour of smartphones.
> The use of apps or the clip-on GPS module are cumbersome in the field and are 
> only stopgaps.
> 
> Even adventure cameras like the new Pentax WG-90 do not have GPS.
> Exceptions are the Ricoh WG-6 (for as long as it is available) and the new OM 
> TG-7, however their image quality may be on the level of a good phone.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2024-01-20 om 10:00 schreef Larry Colen:
>> It seems that the only ones with internal GPS are the K-1, and the K-3II
>> There might be some mode where you can use the gps off the phone through the 
>> app on the K-3 III. Or that might be something that I saw my u4/3 can 
>> theoretically do.
>> What I have been doing on the K-3 III is just taking photos with phone, 
>> importing those into lightroom, so I can use those to look on the map to see 
>> where I took the photos.
 On Jan 20, 2024, at 12:01 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, none of those - they all need the clip-on O-GPS1 as do the K3i & 
>>> K3iii, K5 series & a few others.
>>> 
>>> It seem only the K3ii has built in GPS like the K1.
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>> On 20-Jan-24 06:30 AM, Alan C wrote:
 https://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=pentax_k70&products=pentax_kf&products=pentax_kp&products=pentax_ks2
 
 Alan C
 
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> What is the most recent Pentax APS-C camera that has built-in GPS like
> the K-1? We're doing another bicycle trip in the summer and I'd like
> something more compact than my K-1 but more capable than a phone.
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Re: PESO night tracks

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What Ann said. Well done. 
Paul

> On Jan 30, 2024, at 9:33 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> Nice set! .. love the tracks heading off in to the sunset..
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 1/30/2024 2:54 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I almost got home from the ride before it was totally dark, but had to stop 
>> and shoot the sunset
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53496430107/in/album-72177720314445521/
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Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera

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As a medium, film suffers in comparison to digital in that it is less capable 
of low light reproduction and when pushed, image quality drops precipitously. 
The solution has always been larger formats. My best film work was generally on 
6x7 or 6x6 film. Half a f a 35 mm frame has no appeal whatsoever. Am I missing 
something here?
Paul

> On Mar 3, 2024, at 4:01 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
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> More news on the Pentax film camera:
> https://youtu.be/xqRQTOkhOJU?si=PssAjafiIoYaxbuW
> 
> As for me, with a least a dozen film camera's accumulating dust on the shelf 
> is not fair to these to invest in a new one.
> 
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Snowdrop

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The snowdrops bloomed yesterday. As I’ve done for many a year, I got down on 
the ground — more or less — and photographed a bloom. k-1, DFA 100/2.8 macro, 
f13 1/250th.  
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ewfysku994twcsd9puqoe/snowdrop.24.jpg?rlkey=csl5k56dysa7eqgjdu7so7udb&dl=0
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Re: VESO - my pics friend's guitar and why you haven't seen me i a while

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Great art! Congratulations!
Paul

> On Mar 18, 2024, at 8:24 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> You guys who do facebook too know some of this..
> a dear old friend of mine got back in touch with me recently.. and we have 
> been burning up the phone lines  with talk talk talk . aside from just plain 
> being fond of
> each other I love his guitar , singing and compositions and he loves my 
> photos.. so across the three thousand miles between NYC and southern 
> California we
> collaborated..  on my youtube channel - my found art series of photos and his 
> original bluesy guitar (music from decades old work from his archives)  is 
> here.
> I know some of you dig his kind of vibes...  here is the link to that one.  I 
> did the video in Windoze movie maker and dropped in his track.. which is why 
> it doesnt
> end quite as neatly as a musician would finish it off..
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ0IDmSd3_c&t=2s
> 
> This is the other one just finished is on his channel.  He's singing Kansas 
> City Blues with a couple of guys he played with more recently and I sent him 
> photos
> somewhat theme related .  The bass player was a good friend of his that 
> passed away within the last couple of years.. (Sugah Bugah Pearse)  .   The 
> 1st frame
> is a 1968 photo of mine from central park  NOT my friend Bob Zadman.. and the 
> 4th frame is from my corkboard - that's me with the long hair and plaid
> skirt at a Christmas office party dancing with one of my computer spec 
> writing colleagues.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmJlrvRBkXs
> 
> hope you kids like these.
> 
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Re: PESO: Bellbird

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Well done! And a pretty little bird.
Paul

> On May 10, 2024, at 12:57 PM, Alan Cole  wrote:
> 
> Very nice, Dave. That 400 is a great asset.
> 
>> On Fri, 10 May 2024, 10:27 Larry Colen,  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks great to me
>> 
 On May 10, 2024, at 1:14 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The days are getting shorter and the weather's getting colder, and the
>> bellbirds are coming down from their breeding sites in the hills.  Here's
>> one I photographed the other day in the banskia tree in our back yard.
>> It's not the greatest of photos but it's the best of the ones I took.
>> These birds don't stay still for long.
>>> 
>>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1204/#peso
>>> 
>>> Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
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Re: Did anyone get Aurora photos?

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I was sleeping, but many of my Metro Detroit  friends got good cell phone pics 
on Friday night.
Paul

> On May 12, 2024, at 2:37 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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> In some ways I'm ideally situated now: Good northerly location
> (Scotland) and far away from any significant light pollution. AND the
> weather has been pretty clear - unusual for Scotland. But we've been
> doing long hikes during the day and I've been too exhausted to stay up
> until it's dark enough to look for auroras (which is made no easier by
> the fact that sunset comes *very* late at these latitudes).
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PESO 90 years ago

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> An English couple motoring in the  Cotswalds in 1932. Shot with the way back 
> machine.
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/t6a5f0gpun3nkizw1fotv/MGD4.jpg?rlkey=phqgs92f5uwe5eej9ckl729kb&dl=0> 
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Re: PESO 90 years ago

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It’s a 1931 D-Type, the second one made of 250 total.
Paul

> On May 22, 2024, at 8:06 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> I had to go and check that this want from my MG mailing list.  J type?
> 
> On May 22, 2024 4:30:43 PM PDT, Comcast  wrote:
>>> An English couple motoring in the  Cotswalds in 1932. Shot with the way 
>>> back machine.
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Re: PESO: Spoonbill Silhouette

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Lovely!
Paul

> On Jun 16, 2024, at 1:18 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Late afternoon, yesterday. Very little activity apart from a few Elephants & 
> Impalas.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/53795480853/
> 
> K5 & HD 55-300 WR
> 
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Re: Pentax 17

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> On Jun 18, 2024, at 9:03 AM, Bill  wrote:
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> The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, it's 
> that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of people in 
> God's waiting room.
> 
> bill

Exactly. I am most likely using the cameras I will die with-- a K1 and K3. Gave 
away or sold all my darkroom equipment years ago. Film involves work. I’m too 
old for wotk!
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Re: Quick survey

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DNG. The results and the process are identical in my experience.
Paul

> On Jun 23, 2024, at 1:36 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> what all those other guys said  :-)
> (aside to Paul  - I noticed my first response only went to you.. when no one 
> said "what ann said" )
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 6/23/2024 11:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>> Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives you 
>> better results or is a better choice than the other?
>> 
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Re: GESO A bit of excitement on my way to work this morning

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Interesting. Some fascinating looks at critical action. An edit would serve you 
well here. But excellent shooting !
Paul

> On Jul 23, 2024, at 3:38 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> It turns out that this morning was the first time in quite a while that I 
> actually carried a decent camera in the car. These were all shot with the 
> recently repaired K-3 III, and the used  tamron 18-250 that I bought to 
> replace the busted pentax 18-270, that I bought to replace the poorly 
> repaired tamron 18-250.
> 
> I apologize for the half assed editing, it's getting late.  At some point I 
> may add some more photos, and even go back and clean up some of these.
> 
> I did look up the reg numbers on the various planes and put the details in 
> the file tags.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720319061674
> 
> There are several photos where I didn't even notice the people in them until 
> I was processing.
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Re: MacBook Air

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That’s a good machine.
Paul

> On Aug 26, 2024, at 3:05 PM, pkn291...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hello All
> 
> It is a m1 processor, 8 gb ram and 256gb ssd. The screen works but has a 
> strip on the right 5mm (1/4 inch) wide that is not working. Given the low 
> spec and non upgradeability of the mac book air I don’t think I will spend 
> the money to replace the screen. I will however use it to get an idea of how 
> the macs work. I will probably also use it when traveling.
> Thanks for the input.
> Patrick
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ralf R Radermacher 
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2024 9:49 PM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: MacBook Air
> 
>> Am 25.08.24 um 21:40 schrieb pkn291...@gmail.com:
>> As far as I know it was inspected. I will check with an external
>> screen I am trying to get an idea if it would be worth it.
> 
> Boot it, then -> Apple-Menu -> About this Mac and let us know what it is.
> 
> Ralf
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Re: Very rough benchmark 2013 vs 2019 mac pro

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Can you define “trashcan” and “cheese grater” for tjose of us who are not hip?
Paul

> On Aug 30, 2024, at 1:58 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> I did a quick, very sloppy, benchmark comparing my old 2013 trashcan mac 
> with my new to me cheese grater 2019.
> I've got a huge panorama of McWay falls at moonset.  It took the trashcan 
> about 7 minutes to process it, and the 2019 2.5-3 minutes to stitch it 
> together.  The trashcan was maxed out, so it has the big OWC 2TB SSD and IIRC 
> 12 cores with 64G of memory, but LR no longer supports the GPU. The 
> cheesegrater is 16 cores and 96G of ram.  
> 
> I haven't figured out what to do with the trashcan, I ought to find someone 
> who can make use of it while it's still usable.  It hasn't crashed since I 
> blew most of the dust out, so it might have just been overheating. 
> Unfortunately the error reports didn't really say anything helpful like what 
> was going on.  
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Re: Very rough benchmark 2013 vs 2019 mac pro

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Thanks Ralf,
Paul

> On Aug 30, 2024, at 3:05 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
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> Am 30.08.24 um 20:47 schrieb Comcast:
>> Can you define “trashcan” and “cheese grater” for tjose of us who are not 
>> hip?
>> Paul
> 
> Look here and scroll down to the 3rd photo:
> 
> https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/trash-can-redux-reexamining-the-legacy-of-the-2013-apple-mac-pro/
> 
> The trashcan is on the left (cylindrical design) and the cheese grater 
> (perforated aluminium front grille) on the right.
> 
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Re: PESO: 1946 Power Wagon

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Great pic of a fabulous machine. Here’s a later model Power Wagon that’s not as 
cool looking, but it’s special inside, where it was modified for a quadriplegic 
driver.
Paul

> On Sep 4, 2024, at 11:15 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
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> Great shot
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 7:00 PM Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> I spotted this at the local car show today.
>> 
>> Apparently they are quite rare. This is a ground up restoration.
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/2qdN8pB
>> 
>> Technical stuff:
>> 
>> Fuji X-T5, 16-55/2.8 and polarizing filter.
>> 
>> enjoy
>> 
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