Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
On Oct 28, 2014 8:12 AM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote: extensions... License issues are never simple. In this case it is. Add a LICENSE file with the two licenses in it. You can edit the pkg online to mention them. I am not sure if the package.xml supports two licenses I'm one field but that's a little issue. Cheers, Pierre
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
El 27/10/2014 a las 23:12, Derick Rethans escribió: But that's not true. We can't claim the PHP License on data that's not ours. If you manage to get a clarfication from IANA on what the license is, and what is required in software that bundles it (and perhaps write the LICENSE file)... then I suppose we can add it. That's true. So after researching about the actual license of the Olson database, I have ended up in the RFC-6557[1]. Regarding to licenses, we have the following applicable quotes: 6. Maintenance and Distribution of Reference Code Currently, the maintainer of the TZ database also maintains reference code, most of which is public domain. The reference implementation shall be distributed along with an associated cryptographic signature verifiable by a public key. Several files from this software are currently distributed under license. Where they exist, licenses SHALL NOT be changed. 7. Database Ownership The TZ database itself is not an IETF Contribution or an IETF document. Rather it is a pre-existing and regularly updated work that is in the public domain, and is intended to remain in the public domain. Therefore, BCPs 78 [RFC5378] and 79 [RFC3979] do not apply to the TZ Database or contributions that individuals make to it. Should any claims be made and substantiated against the TZ Database, the organization that is providing the IANA Considerations defined in this RFC, under the memorandum of understanding with the IETF, currently ICANN, may act in accordance with all competent court orders. No ownership claims will be made by ICANN or the IETF Trust on the database or the code. Any person making a contribution to the database or code waives all rights to future claims in that contribution or in the TZ Database. This is ratified in the README file of the tzdata and tzcode distributions, where we can read: Unless otherwise specified, all files in the tz code and data are in the public domain, so clarified as of 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. The few exceptions are code derived from BSD, which uses the BSD license. Thereafter, I propose the attached LICENSE file for the timezonedb module, expressing these two different license policies. Hopefully this file will be OK to be included in the repository. [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6557 Best regards, -- David Marín Carreño Ingeniero en Informática SICE - Dirección Técnica Dpto. de Software Interurbano Tfno: +34 91 623 23 36 Móvil: +34 650 460 569 E-mail: dma...@sice.commailto:dma...@sice.com Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo está dirigido exclusivamente a los destinatarios especificados. La información contenida puede ser confidencial y/o estar legalmente protegida y no necesariamente refleja la opinión de esta compañía. Si usted recibe este mensaje por error, por favor comuníqueselo inmediatamente al remitente y elimínelo. This message and any attached files are intended solely for the addressee/s identified herein. It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information and may not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. If you receive this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete it. _ This extension includes code and data from the Time Zone Database (http://www.iana.org/time-zones). These code and data are placed in public domain. This extension also includes code under The PHP License 3.01, hereby reproduced: The PHP License, version 3.01 Copyright (c) 1999 - 2014 The PHP Group. All rights reserved. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, is permitted provided that the following conditions are met: 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. 3. The name PHP must not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without prior written permission. For written permission, please contact gr...@php.net. 4. Products derived from this software may not be called PHP, nor may PHP appear in their name, without prior written permission from gr...@php.net. You may indicate that your software works in conjunction with PHP by saying Foo for PHP instead of calling it PHP Foo or phpfoo 5. The PHP Group may publish revised and/or new versions of the
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
Hi all, again. Excuse me if I'm being insistent, but please, someone add that LICENSE file to the repository for the Windows binaries to be generated. According to the two files in the source code, the license should be the PHP license. Thanks a lot. El 09/10/2014 a las 19:52, Pierre Joye escribió: Derick, On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.netmailto:der...@php.net wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, David Marín Carreño wrote: I don't want to be annoying nor demanding, but after a month, I have to come back with the problem of not existance of compiled timezonedb PECL extension for Windows. According to the list thread, the only problem is that there is no LICENSE file in the extension, and thus the automatic compiler for Windows doesn't even try to compile it. There is no license for the data in this extension, so no LICENSE file can be created. It's some silly requirement by the people that build these binaries. We can't distribute binaries without license. Simple, easy. You have code and the data is under a given term. Public domain or the likes are terms of use. Add it to this file and that's it. -- David Marín Carreño Ingeniero en Informática SICE - Dirección Técnica Dpto. de Software Interurbano Tfno: +34 91 623 23 36 Móvil: +34 650 460 569 E-mail: dma...@sice.commailto:dma...@sice.com Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo está dirigido exclusivamente a los destinatarios especificados. La información contenida puede ser confidencial y/o estar legalmente protegida y no necesariamente refleja la opinión de esta compañía. Si usted recibe este mensaje por error, por favor comuníqueselo inmediatamente al remitente y elimínelo. This message and any attached files are intended solely for the addressee/s identified herein. It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information and may not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. If you receive this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete it. _
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
hi, On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM, David Marín Carreño dma...@sice.com wrote: Hi all, again. Excuse me if I'm being insistent, but please, someone add that LICENSE file to the repository for the Windows binaries to be generated. According to the two files in the source code, the license should be the PHP license. As far as I remember Derick was not keen to do it. So convince him and you are in. Cheers, Pierre -- PECL development discussion Mailing List (http://pecl.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
Hi again. I don't want to be annoying nor demanding, but after a month, I have to come back with the problem of not existance of compiled timezonedb PECL extension for Windows. According to the list thread, the only problem is that there is no LICENSE file in the extension, and thus the automatic compiler for Windows doesn't even try to compile it. I'd like to fix this problem so we can define in our project documentation a protocol for whenever the government decides to change the daylight saving policy... Should I submit a patch? Thanks again. El 10/09/2014 a las #4, Pierre Joye escribió: Adding Derick as he maintains this ext. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:42 AM, David Marín Carreño dma...@sice.com wrote: On 09/09/2014, Pierre Joye wrote: ah nice, so one could update older versions easily. Up to Derick to fix what has to be fixed than. pecl.php.net will provide dlls automatically then. So could I expect that timezonedb extension will be available for Windows soon? Should I contact anyone for doing this? I'm saying this because, at my firm, we need to take a design decision for one of our projects, and it depends on this question: the country where the project is going to be installed keeps on changing its daylight-saving time start and end dates every year, and if we are not able to update the timezone database without upgrading the whole WAMP stack we will have to change the way of managing this... Thanks again -- *David Marín Carreño* Ingeniero en Informática *SICE* - Dirección Técnica Dpto. de Software Interurbano Tfno: +34 91 623 23 36 Móvil: +34 650 460 569 E-mail: dma...@sice.com mailto:dma...@sice.com Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo está dirigido exclusivamente a los destinatarios especificados. La información contenida puede ser confidencial y/o estar legalmente protegida y no necesariamente refleja la opinión de esta compañía. Si usted recibe este mensaje por error, por favor comuníqueselo inmediatamente al remitente y elimínelo. This message and any attached files are intended solely for the addressee/s identified herein. It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information and may not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. If you receive this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete it. _ -- *David Marín Carreño* Ingeniero en Informática *SICE* - Dirección Técnica Dpto. de Software Interurbano Tfno: +34 91 623 23 36 Móvil: +34 650 460 569 E-mail: dma...@sice.com mailto:dma...@sice.com Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo está dirigido exclusivamente a los destinatarios especificados. La información contenida puede ser confidencial y/o estar legalmente protegida y no necesariamente refleja la opinión de esta compañía. Si usted recibe este mensaje por error, por favor comuníqueselo inmediatamente al remitente y elimínelo. This message and any attached files are intended solely for the addressee/s identified herein. It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information and may not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. If you receive this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete it. _ -- PECL development discussion Mailing List (http://pecl.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, David Marín Carreño wrote: I don't want to be annoying nor demanding, but after a month, I have to come back with the problem of not existance of compiled timezonedb PECL extension for Windows. According to the list thread, the only problem is that there is no LICENSE file in the extension, and thus the automatic compiler for Windows doesn't even try to compile it. There is no license for the data in this extension, so no LICENSE file can be created. It's some silly requirement by the people that build these binaries. cheers, Derick -- PECL development discussion Mailing List (http://pecl.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
On 09/10/2014, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, David Marín Carreño wrote: I don't want to be annoying nor demanding, but after a month, I have to come back with the problem of not existance of compiled timezonedb PECL extension for Windows. According to the list thread, the only problem is that there is no LICENSE file in the extension, and thus the automatic compiler for Windows doesn't even try to compile it. There is no license for the data in this extension, so no LICENSE file can be created. It's some silly requirement by the people that build these binaries. cheers, Derick As you say, the timezonedb data is under public domain. But according to the files in the extension, currently timezonedb.c and php_timezonedb.h under the PHP License version 3.0. So perhaps the valid LICENSE file could be one having the PHP License 3.0. Or perhaps a LICENSE file saying This extension is under public domain, if it is really this way. Thank you again -- *David Marín Carreño* Ingeniero en Informática *SICE* - Dirección Técnica Dpto. de Software Interurbano Tfno: +34 91 623 23 36 Móvil: +34 650 460 569 E-mail: dma...@sice.com mailto:dma...@sice.com Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo está dirigido exclusivamente a los destinatarios especificados. La información contenida puede ser confidencial y/o estar legalmente protegida y no necesariamente refleja la opinión de esta compañía. Si usted recibe este mensaje por error, por favor comuníqueselo inmediatamente al remitente y elimínelo. This message and any attached files are intended solely for the addressee/s identified herein. It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information and may not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. If you receive this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete it. _ -- PECL development discussion Mailing List (http://pecl.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
Derick, On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, David Marín Carreño wrote: I don't want to be annoying nor demanding, but after a month, I have to come back with the problem of not existance of compiled timezonedb PECL extension for Windows. According to the list thread, the only problem is that there is no LICENSE file in the extension, and thus the automatic compiler for Windows doesn't even try to compile it. There is no license for the data in this extension, so no LICENSE file can be created. It's some silly requirement by the people that build these binaries. We can't distribute binaries without license. Simple, easy. You have code and the data is under a given term. Public domain or the likes are terms of use. Add it to this file and that's it. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org -- PECL development discussion Mailing List (http://pecl.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
Hi, We never tried but makes also little sense as you would not be able to use it with any binaries we provide. This db being bundled and statically linked. Out of curiosity, why do you need it? Cheers, Pierre On Sep 9, 2014 12:44 PM, David Marín Carreño dma...@sice.com wrote: Hi all I'm trying to find a compiled version of timezonedb extension for Windows, but I cannot find it. I'm not able to get a build system with the required Visual C. Is there any possibility that timezonedb PECL extension could be compiled for Windows in the official servers? Thanks a lot for your support. -- David Marín Carreño Ingeniero en Informática SICE - Dirección Técnica Dpto. de Software Interurbano Tfno: +34 91 623 23 36 Móvil: +34 650 460 569 E-mail: dma...@sice.commailto:dma...@sice.com Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo está dirigido exclusivamente a los destinatarios especificados. La información contenida puede ser confidencial y/o estar legalmente protegida y no necesariamente refleja la opinión de esta compañía. Si usted recibe este mensaje por error, por favor comuníqueselo inmediatamente al remitente y elimínelo. This message and any attached files are intended solely for the addressee/s identified herein. It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information and may not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. If you receive this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete it. _
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
Pierre Joye in php.pecl.dev (Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:55:19 +0200): We never tried but makes also little sense as you would not be able to use it with any binaries we provide. This db being bundled and statically linked. Timezonedb is a PECL extension. Quote from http://pecl.php.net/package/timezonedb This extension is a drop-in replacement for the builtin timezone database that comes with PHP. You should only install this extension in case you need to get a later version of the timezone database than the one that ships with PHP. It is perfectly possible to compile the extension for Windows. There is one in my builds at http://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=6123 If you say makes little sense, do you mean that the 'replacement' does not work on Windows? If the quote is true for Windows, there is no reason why it should not be compiled officially and put at http://windows.php.net/downloads/pecl/releases/ Jan -- PECL development discussion Mailing List (http://pecl.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
Jan Ehrhardt in php.pecl.dev (Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:21:22 +0200): If you say makes little sense, do you mean that the 'replacement' does not work on Windows? The replacement works. PHP 5.6 with the extension installed tells Olson Timezone Database Version 2014.7 Timezone Database external And without: Olson Timezone Database Version 2014.6 Timezone Database internal Jan -- PECL development discussion Mailing List (http://pecl.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PECL-DEV] timezonedb extension compiled for Windows
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Jan Ehrhardt php...@ehrhardt.nl wrote: Jan Ehrhardt in php.pecl.dev (Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:21:22 +0200): If you say makes little sense, do you mean that the 'replacement' does not work on Windows? The replacement works. PHP 5.6 with the extension installed tells Olson Timezone Database Version 2014.7 Timezone Database external And without: Olson Timezone Database Version 2014.6 Timezone Database internal ah nice, so one could update older versions easily. Up to Derick to fix what has to be fixed than. pecl.php.net will provide dlls automatically then. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org -- PECL development discussion Mailing List (http://pecl.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
