Re: [PEIRCE-L] Off-List: Minimal Negation Operators

2021-09-29 Thread sowa @bestweb.net
Gary R,
  
 On that point,I happen to agree with you.
  
 GR: I finally came to the conclusion that Peirce's existential graphs were 
a superior-- and more iconic -- way of diagramming matters 'logical'. That 
I currently have little to no interest in what Jon is posting has nothing 
to do with my request that he make it clear how his posts are 
Peirce-related.
  
 A good on-list reply to Jon A  would be "Peirce's EGs appear to be 
superior and more iconic than your notation.Could you show some 
examples that map your notation to and from EGs in a way that show the 
advantages and disadvantages of the two notations?"
  
 Such a note would enable everybody to judge the issues for themselves.
  
 John

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RE: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 49

2021-09-29 Thread gnox
Gary R, I see what you mean, but as far as I know Peirce’s “phaneroscopy” (just 
like his “phenomenology”) included analysis and generalization as well as 
observation. In R 318 (1907) he wrote, “Everybody recognizes that it is no 
inconsiderable art, this business of “phaneroscopic” analysis by which one 
frames a scientific definition” (EP2:403) — which seems to make phaneroscopy 
both an art and a science! Anyway, given my own emphasis on practice-perception 
cycles  , I prefer to think of 
observation and generalization as parts of a continuous process rather than 
dividing them into separate activities, so I don’t see a need to differentiate 
the science into branches.

 

Re slide 48: In my mild disapproval of wine-tasting as André’s example, I was 
forgetting that a practice (art? science?) such as that would indeed be good 
training for focussing on the material elements of the phaneron. Peirce 
indicates in a couple of texts that the “material categories” could be picked 
out phaneroscopically as well as the “universal categories,” but that he didn’t 
have much success at making a list of them, so he chose to focus on the formal 
elements of the phaneron instead (CP 1.284). 

 

Gary f.

 

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From: Gary Richmond  
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Cc: Gary Fuhrman 
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 49

 

Gary F, List,

 

GF: "I said in a previous post that phaneroscopy is pre-scientific." 

 

Yet Peirce positions it as First cenoscopic science. I have long held the view 
that since the observational practice of phaneroscopy is indeed 
"pre-scientific," yet it is necessary as the first stage/branch in the 
development of a phenomenological science, one which will require at least one, 
and perhaps two, additional branches in order to become a fully developed 
science. 

 

So, despite Peirce's late terminology valorizing "Phaneroscopy" as the name of 
the science, I tend to think that it is better to think of the First cenoscopic 
science taken as a whole -- which is to say, were it to be fully developed --  
as Phenomenology, and its pre-scientific, first observational branch as 
Phaneroscopy. 

 

Best,

 

Gary R


 


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Beauty and terror
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