Re: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 43

[Phyllis Chiasson]

Yes.  Language is incapable of expressing all of experience. Peirce's
emphasis on sensory experience is well taken. I always used actual
materials when working with young children. I should have done so with
older ones as well.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 9:33 AM sowa @bestweb.net  wrote:

> Gary F, Phyllis, List,
>
> I agree with Phylls:
>
> PC: This  is very effective for teaching rich language skills to young
> children.
>
> But adults, especially anyone who is trying to understand what Peirce meant
> by phaneroscopy, would need more information about how to represent
> whatever
> one discovers by doing those exercises.  The slide (copied below) says
> nothing
> about the representation.
>
> The book by Albert  Upton used descriptions in English.  That is useful,
> but
> English is incapable of describing what an artist sees.  IFor example,
> consider
> the complex perspectives discovered by the Renaissance painters or the
> very complex configurations by Picasso.
>
> In one of his examples, Peirce considered the subtle changes of color in
> a snow covered scene when directly illuminated by the sun (bluish) vs
> in the shadow (yelllowish).  Those are issues that Peirce discussed in
> his book, Photometric Researches.   He used special instruments to get
> precise measures of the spectrum.  But he also was very sensitive to
> the features that could be observed by careful analysis without special
> instruments.
>
> The mapping to language occurs late in the process.  A mapping to diagrams
> (or other hypoiccons) occurs much earlier.
>
> John
> __
>
> From the slide:
>
>
> *How does one become a phaneroscopist? *
>
> *How to train oneself?*
>
> There are a myriad ways of learning the trade.
>
> •  Study how oenologists train themselves to taste and describe
> wines. Study how perfume makers describe scents.
>
> •  Observe abstract paintings and create for each of them a list
> of titles plausible to you.
>
> •  Bring yourself to perceive new qualia and to isolate (prescind)
> them.
>
> •  Draw, paint, write poetry: don't pretend to be an artist, just
> a mere phaneroscopist - though an extraordinarily assiduous one.
>
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[PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 43

[gnox]

Continuing our slow read on phaneroscopy, here is the next slide of André De 
Tienne’s slideshow posted on the Peirce Edition Project (iupui.edu) 
  site. 

Gary f.

 



 

Text: 

How does one become a phaneroscopist? 

How to train oneself?

There are a myriad ways of learning the trade.

•  Study how oenologists train themselves to taste and describe wines. 
Study how perfume makers describe scents.

•  Observe abstract paintings and create for each of them a list of 
titles plausible to you.

•  Bring yourself to perceive new qualia and to isolate (prescind) them.

•  Draw, paint, write poetry: don't pretend to be an artist, just a 
mere phaneroscopist - though an extraordinarily assiduous one.

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