Re: [PEIRCE-L] Jay Zeman's discussion of interpretants

[Ben Udell]

Hi, John.  Seeing your note, I updated Peirce-Related Papers at Arisbe with 
links to Zeman's articles now at archive.org

 * "Peirce's Theory of Signs" 

   
https://web.archive.org/web/20190302105740/http://users.clas.ufl.edu/jzeman/peirces_theory_of_signs.htm
 * "Peirce and Philo" 

   
https://web.archive.org/web/20180601095843/http://users.clas.ufl.edu/jzeman/peirce_and_philo.htm
 * "Peirce's Philosophy of Logic" 

   
https://web.archive.org/web/20190317094318/http://users.clas.ufl.edu/jzeman/csphiloflogic.htm
 * "The Graphical Logic of C. S. Peirce" 

   
https://web.archive.org/web/20180815222405/http://users.clas.ufl.edu/jzeman/graphicallogic/index.htm
 * "Peirce on Abstraction" 

   
https://web.archive.org/web/20190327103000/http://users.clas.ufl.edu/jzeman/peirce_on_abstraction.htm
 * "Gestalt Work as Adaptive Inquiry" 

   
https://web.archive.org/web/20180601095353/http://users.clas.ufl.edu/jzeman/gestaltw.htm

But there is much more - here is his home page preserved at archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180914015520/http://users.clas.ufl.edu/jzeman/

Including a link to the classic existentialgraphs.com

https://web.archive.org/web/20160303193534/http://www.existentialgraphs.com/

Now that I see it, I remember hearing that people were worried that his pages 
would disappear.  I went through everything there that I could find through his 
home page, submitting URL after URL to archive.org for their eventual 
archiving.  Some little images were already gone.

It's great that you have the whole site.  How many MBs is it? Arisbe would need 
permission from whoever owns the rights, if Arisbe is official enough for you.  
Do you know who owns the rights?

Best, Ben

On 2/12/2024 3:57 PM, John F Sowa wrote:


As we know, Peirce's writings have inspired many new theories and discoveries 
for well over a century.  But we must always distinguish his exact words from 
anybody else's interpretations and extensions.

For interpretants, I believe that an article Jay Zeman wrote in 1977 is still one of the 
best:  "Peirce's Theory of Signs", which has 70 occurrences of the word 
'interpretant',

Since CP is the only source he cites, he avoids the dubious late extensions 
that Short and others have criticized.  It provides a good foundation for 
readers to distinguish Peirce's earlier, more limited definitions from later 
extensions that Peirce himself failed to define clearly and precisely.

I have a copy of that article on my website, and I checked Google to find a 
more official site.  But the search pointed back to my own 
website:https://www.jfsowa.com/ikl/Zeman77.pdf

After Zeman died, I downloaded  a complete copy of his entire website.  I 
believe that it should be preserved somewhere more official.  If anybody knows 
of a more official place to store it, I would be happy to give them access to 
the whole thing.

John



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[PEIRCE-L] Jay Zeman's discussion of interpretants

[John F Sowa]

As we know, Peirce's writings have inspired many new theories and discoveries 
for well over a century.  But we must always distinguish his exact words from 
anybody else's interpretations and extensions.

For interpretants, I believe that an article Jay Zeman wrote in 1977 is still 
one of the best:  "Peirce's Theory of Signs", which has 70 occurrences of the 
word 'interpretant',

Since CP is the only source he cites, he avoids the dubious late extensions 
that Short and others have criticized.  It provides a good foundation for 
readers to distinguish Peirce's earlier, more limited definitions from later 
extensions that Peirce himself failed to define clearly and precisely.

I have a copy of that article on my website, and I checked Google to find a 
more official site.  But the search pointed back to my own website:  
https://www.jfsowa.com/ikl/Zeman77.pdf

After Zeman died, I downloaded  a complete copy of his entire website.  I 
believe that it should be preserved somewhere more official.  If anybody knows 
of a more official place to store it, I would be happy to give them access to 
the whole thing.

John

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