Re: [peirce-l] review of Moore's Peirce edition

2012-01-27 Thread Irving

Jerry, Kirsti, list,

I've certainly not yet gone through all of the material in Moore's 
edition of Peirce. Thus far I have concentrated my attention to those 
parts dealing with issues in set theory, [infinitesimal] analysis, some 
number, a bit of geometry, and the role of mathematics in education. My 
general impression of the whole of the contents so far is that CSP's 
main, but not necessarily so, concern, is to understand the 
relationship(s) between mathematics and logic, and more generally, of 
the place of mathematics in the broader context of rationality, 
thought, and knowledge (the latter, perhaps, in the German sense of 
Wissenschaften, to include, therefore, the Geisteswissenschafteen as 
well as the Naturwissenschaften). There are a few references to Cayley 
and to Kempe, and then only referring to their work in geometry, so I 
consequently find nothing specific of chemistry in these selections, 
and so, if chemistry is on the agenda at all here for Peirce, it is 
probably so only very indirectly, within the perspective of one of the 
Naturwissenschaften, and not in these selections.


That being said, I for one suspect it is very much possible to discuss 
logic and mathematics without bringing chemistry into the discussion. 
For those interested in the axiomatization of chemistry, or in 
employing group theory to study cristaline structures, that of course 
is a different story altogether. But, as a mathematician, I have no 
need to consider chemistry. My interest in chemistry, as historian of 
mathematics extends only so far as Cayley, Kempe, and Peirce were 
inspired by chemical diagrams to treat logical relations graphically. 
... But this is just my own logico-mathematical orientation at play.



Irving H. Anellis
Visiting Research Associate
Peirce Edition, Institute for American Thought
902 W. New York St.
Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis
Indianapolis, IN 46202-5159
USA
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Re: [peirce-l] review of Moore's Peirce edition

2012-01-27 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Malgosia:

Thanks for your insights. 

I concur that the concepts of unity (units?, terms?) and consistency are 
critical. 

But, in so far as I understand the concept of logic (logos?, ratio?, rational?) 
the principle objective is the notion of a conclusion (or a consequence).

Apparently, many different pathways between premises and consequences can be 
constructed and given different adjectival names - eg, modal logic, and so 
forth.

In the case of particular interest to me is the dialogue between two category 
theorists. One asserts that category theory includes all logics.  The other 
asserts that Life Itself can not be a formal system, ie, the logic of 
mathematics can not express the dynamics of natural systems.

The definition you give for logic is fine with me as a rhetoric sentence - but 
CSP followed the trivium, rhetoric, grammar and logic / icon, index, symbol.  
In other words, how would I apply the rhetorical definition to a particular 
situation - such as the logic of generating chemical compounds by composing 
components of the arithmetic progression of the atomic numbers?  

Frankly, I think that we are missing something about the nature of codes and 
the encoding of our individual thoughts into symbolic messages.

 I would conjecture that logic is grounded in the codes of human communication. 
 It works only if we understand one another.

What do you think?

Cheers

jerry 



On Jan 26, 2012, at 3:19 PM, malgosia askanas wrote:

 Jerry Chandler wrote:
 
 So, I remain with the question that has haunted me for more than ten years: 
 What is logic?
 
 I will bite - in the hope that this first attempt will elicit discussion, 
 and, as a result, much improvement:
 
 (A) logic (of something) is the interconnected set of principles of internal 
 connections, interdependencies and relationships that underlie the unity and 
 consistency of a process, a set of processes, or an entity.
 
 This, of course, puts the burden on the concepts of unity and consistency, 
 but I think that's the correct conceptual direction: we first perceive (or 
 decide to perceive) a given process or entity X as a unity and possessed of a 
 consistency, and this perception (or intent) , in turn, leads us to 
 investigate X's underlying logic.
 
 -malgosia
 
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