[peirce-l] Re: Death of Arnold Shepperson

2006-10-08 Thread Cassiano Terra Rodrigues
List:

I have to say I'm deeply saddened by Arnold Shepperson's sudden death.
In his memory, I have to say that I've learned a lot from his comments
to the list and to a paper of mine we once exchanged. I'm sure lots of
other people share this with we, and I say this because I am a teacher,
and nothing is more to a teacher than the recognition of his students.
So, I'd just wanted to remember that I've learned a lot from him.

All the very best
Cassiano. 
2006/9/30, John Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
All,I have not been subscribed to the Peirce-L list since my universitychanged my email address to fit its corporate image. I was gettingreports regularly from my student Arnold Shepperson.I regret to inform you that Arnold died yesterday of a heart attack.
It was a shock to me, since I saw him shortly before his death, andhe seemed fine, and very enthusiastic. It is a loss to me personally,but also, I think, to the wider world. Arnold was well on his way togiving a Peircean response to Arrow's paradox of social choice by
rejecting Arrow's explicitly nominalist assumptions on ordering,using the idea of sequence instead, as found in Peirce.My best to everyone.John--Professor
John
Collier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Philosophy and Ethics, University of KwaZulu-Natal, Durban 4041 South AfricaT: +27 (31) 260 3248 / 260 2292 F: +27 (31) 260 3031
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[peirce-l] Re: 1st image of triangle of boxes (MS799.2)

2006-06-25 Thread Cassiano Terra Rodrigues
Dear List:
in respect for fund raising for the edition of CSP's papers, the Peirce Edition Project at Indianapolis 
is always in search of funds, Nathan Houser and everybody else there are working a lot for the work on
the CSP's papers.
more info can be found at their website: 
http://www.iupui.edu/~peirce/

best
cass.
2006/6/25, Frances Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Frances to Joe and others...There is a tendency for me to equate immediate or immediacy withall metaphysical quiddities and representamens that are not signs, aswell as with all categorical primaries and firstnesses or firsts and
qualities that exist to sense, but especially to align them withrepresentamens that are signs within acts of semiosis.My reason for trying to do this semiotically and grammatically atleast is to make representamens seem consistent as being immediate
representamens along with immediate objects and immediateinterpretants. The theoretical use this could have might includedifferentiating semiosic representamens that are signs fromsynechastic representamens that are not signs. There might then of
course be no need to use immediacy as a label for things beforeobjects or for representamens and phenomena outside semiosis.If for example a diagrammatic table where drawn to illustrate the
structure of grammatic signs, it might hence be as follows.--immediaterepresentamens--immediate dynamic
objects objects--immediate dynamicfinalinterpretants interpretantsinterpretants--
This basic layout and usage of immediate for representamens seemsreasonable to me, but nothing could be found in Peircean writings yetto support the use of the term immediate representamen for some
reason, other than as you explained earlier below.The structure of this diagrammatic table however is perhaps rough orvague. It is vertical and even upside down in regard to the usualstructure shown of trichotomies, so that there appears to be here
three immediate firsts aligned to the left column and margin, yetonly one final third aligned to the right column and margin.If the table were flipped the other side up, then the top row would
have three horizontal classes as firsts and the right column wouldhave three vertical classes as thirds, which only seems partlyconsistent with the trichotomic structure of categories. This problemmay simply go to the limits of graphic or visual diagrams, which after
all are iconic and merely similar in form to their referred objects,and logically senseless in that icons can be neither false nor true.There is an implication here that all semiotic immediates are probably
grammatic in stature and somewhat iconic in structure. Perhaps whenimmediates as say subicons or when icons and their diagrams becomedynamic objects or say dynamic object signs, aligned or connected moreso to or as designated hyposemic indexes, will they become somewhat
logically sensible and thus must be either false or true.In any event, all representamens to me seem inherently andintrinsically immediate, whether they are synechastically not signs orsemiosically as signs, therefore labelling representamens as
immediate representamens might more clearly assign or reassign themas being semiosic in the field and semiotic in the study.Joe wrote...The passage Jim found runs as follows:It is usually admitted that there are two classes of mental
representation, Immediate Representations or Sensations and MediateRepresentations or Conceptions.In the context in which that occurs, Peirce goes on to say:The former are completely determinate or individual objects of
thought; the latter are partially indeterminate or general objects.And he then goes on (in the next paragraph) to say:But according to my theory of logic, since no pure sensations orindividual objects exist... .
I omit the rest of the long and complex sentence since it adds nothingto the point at issue, which is that he does not himself accept theusually admitted theory, which he contrasts as based on a different
metaphysics than his. I cannot myself think of any reason why he wouldwant to use such a term. The word icon is after all his term for arepresenting entity which presents its object immediately in the sense
that no distinction can be drawn between the iconic sign and that ofwhich it is an icon: they are numerically identical... (There is stilla formal distinction to be drawn between icon and object, in the sense
that there is a difference between representing and being represented,but this does not entail that what represents and what is representedcannot be the same thing. Otherwise there would be no such thing asself-representation. But of course there is.) So of what use would
there be for the term immediate representation where that isequivalent to immediate sign or immediate representamen?It would only introduce an awkward 

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-06-04 Thread Cassiano Terra Rodrigues
Hello list:

It's been a long while I don't write, but the subject interests me.
I run the risk of repeating everything that was said here about
entelechy, but a look up at the form of the word seems appropriate: 
entelechy in ancient greek is a form of saying (as literally as I can
see) en telos echein, that is, something like to have the end [aim?]
in, the obtaining of the end (since the verb echein has a wide
semantic range).
In this sense, it is possible to think of it as a process rather than
the final result of the process itself - if we think in analogy to the
ultimate interpretant, it's perfectly fit: although the interpretant is
called ultimate, it's nonetheless still an interpretant, sign-process
in sum. 
Now, the substantive entelechia seems to indicate exactly this, as I
can see, in Aristotle: a process of attaining the end (telos), which
should not as I see be defined as a definite outcome, final and not
capable of being fowarded furthermore - because the idea of telos
carries the notion of possible aim to be reached - the final cause is
of the nature of a general desire, in Peirce's interpretation (which
seems a very plausible way to read Aristotle's theory of the four
causes - the formal cause being in the end the same as the final cause,
the material cause the same as the efficient cause). So, entelechy
would be a process of causation, the finalization of the process
of attainment a telos, or of fulfillment of the end, if I can say this
in English. So, it continues to be a process, as I tend to read it; not
the same as before, but still a process.
I hope I'm understandable in this poor English of mine, and I also hope I'm not completely out of the discussion. 
All the best to all,
Cassiano
(from the Center for Studies on Pragmatism, Catholic University of São Paulo (PUC), Brasil).



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