Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled

2004-05-14 Thread Drewk
On Feb. 9, the Brecht Forum informed the teacher of its course on
Capital, Marx's Capital and Alternatives to Capital, Andrew
Kliman, that it does not want him to teach there in the future,
and that it would not object to his leaving before the current
course was over. The expulsion letter came in response to Kliman's
and the class' complaints that the Brecht substantively rewrote
the course announcement without his knowledge or consent. The
Brecht's version of the announcement hid the fact that the course
is a seminar on Capital and, without permission, identified him as
having written for NEWS  LETTERS.

* complete ARTICLE below, and at
http://www.newsandletters.org/Issues/2004/March/teacher_Marchb04.h
tm

* extensive DOCUMENTATION supporting the charges made in the
article available at
http://www.newsandletters.org/Issues/2004/March/docum.html


Brian Martin, a courageous fighter against suppression of dissent,
notes:

Publicity is undoubtedly an extremely potent method of opposing
suppression. ...  It is vitally important that action be taken
against suppression. This is because the most important effect of
suppression is ... on others who observe the process. Every case
of suppression is a warning to potential critics not to buck the
system. And every case in which suppression is vigorously opposed
is a warning to vested interests that attacks will not be
tolerated. (from his very cool website
[http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/])

So please do FORWARD the article and URLs, as a warning to vested
interests that attacks will not be tolerated.  Thanks



NY LEFT INSTITUTION PURGES CAPITAL TEACHER

New York -- On Feb. 9, the Brecht Forum informed the teacher of
its course on Capital, Marx's Capital and Alternatives to
Capital, Andrew Kliman, that it does not want him to teach there
in the future, and that it would not object to his leaving
before the current course was over. The expulsion letter came in
response to Kliman's and the class' complaints that the Brecht
substantively rewrote the course announcement without his
knowledge or consent. The Brecht's version of the announcement hid
the fact that the course is a seminar on Capital and, without
permission, identified him as having written for NEWS  LETTERS.

Such numerous and important changes are by no means 'purely
stylistic,' as the Brecht claims, Kliman said. I have never
before had text substantially altered like this without
consultation. I've never even heard of such a case before. The
Brecht has shown itself to be a petty, sectarian institution
utterly lacking in intellectual integrity.

Kliman had been teaching for a sixth term at the Brecht to an
unusually large class of 23. The course has resumed at another
location.

Teachers at the Brecht Forum, a 28-year-old New York City left
educational institution, are not paid. The purged seminar leader
is a widely published Marxist-Humanist theorist whose writings
have clashed with established Marxist economics. He and others
have refuted Marxist economists' alleged proofs of Marx's
internal inconsistency.

What was Kliman's crime that merited expulsion? Only that he and
the class objected to the Brecht re-writing the course description
and Kliman's biography without his knowledge and consent for its
catalogue, website, e-mail and flyers. The Brecht did this not
once, but twice. The rewriting, which disguised the fact that the
course was a course on CAPITAL, undoubtedly served to reduce
enrollment.

Although the Brecht claimed the changes were stylistic, it is
known that the administration dislikes Kliman's work and politics.
One student reported from personal conversations that leaders of
the Brecht were out to get him. During another discussion of the
rewriting problem, an influential person at the Brecht complained
about Kliman's idealism and expressed disagreement with his
recently published Marx's Concept of Intrinsic Value.

The three-term seminar emerged out of Kliman's Brecht course on
CAPITAL Vols. 2 and 3. He and several students co-wrote the new
course's description. Acting on its own, the Brecht changed the
course title to Four Questions and removed several points in the
description, actions that disguised the fact that the course
consists primarily of a close reading of Vol. 1. In addition,
Kliman's biography was changed by removing references to his prior
Brecht teaching, dropping some of his publications, and adding
that he had published in NEWS  LETTERS.

When this happened last fall, Kliman objected privately, and the
Brecht sent out the correct version of the course description to
its email list. Yet when the winter publicity appeared, the
description had again been modified, and the Brecht's rewrite of
Kliman's bio again replaced his own. This occurred even though he
had asked the Brecht not to alter the text without his permission.

Kliman and the class then requested a correction, an apology, and
assurance that such re-writing would not occur 

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Chris Doss
Response: This was the same kind of excuse given for Stalin by some intellectuals 
during the 30s and 40s. The one thing missing in Medvedev's interview is a class 
analysis. Once upon a time, Medvedev was associated with Eurocommunism and Bukharin. 
His PR for Putin seems to reflect diminished expectations.

---
Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population.

Gorby adores Putin.


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin) - edited

2004-05-14 Thread Chris Doss
Roy Medvedev = brilliant historian who, for some reason, seems to support the most 
popular Russian leader since the tsarist era, you know, the guy who has presided over 
a more rapid growth of living standards than any General Secretary of the Soviet Union 
ever.

Louis Proyect = a guy who thinks that Dagestanis like being invaded by mujaheedin from 
Chechnya and similar absurdities, probably believes that Ivan Shapovalov is a 
Bolshevik leader, and, despite knowing absolutely jack about contemporary Russia, 
somehow thinks he has the right to make authoritative comments about it. Incidentally, 
you got the name of the band wrong in your review of Brat. There is no band called 
Nautilus. There _was_ a very good rock band from Piter, headed by Vladimir Petkun, by 
the name of Nautilus Pompilus. Calling NP Nautilus is like calling the Rolling Stones 
the Rollings.

I go with Roy.


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population.

Gorby adores Putin.
90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they
think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the
American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay marriage, the
Cuban revolution, etc.
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Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin) - edited

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Doss wrote:

Louis Proyect = a guy who thinks that Dagestanis like being invaded
by mujaheedin from Chechnya and similar absurdities, probably believes
that Ivan Shapovalov is a Bolshevik leader, and, despite knowing
absolutely jack about contemporary Russia, somehow thinks he has the
right to make authoritative comments about it.
Of course I have the right. I have been studying Soviet society since
1967 and have read no less than 30 books on the topic ranging from Moshe
Lewin to Alec Nove. Admittedly, I haven't gone over to work for an
alternative weekly in the spirit of Russ Smith's NY Press but
nobody's perfect.
Incidentally, you got the name of the band wrong in your review of
Brat. There is no band called Nautilus. There _was_ a very good rock
band from Piter, headed by Vladimir Petkun, by the name of Nautilus
Pompilus. Calling NP Nautilus is like calling the Rolling Stones the
Rollings.
I'm crushed.

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Oil shock? - a thought

2004-05-14 Thread Julio Huato
Paul Krugman has been worried lately about a possible oil shortage:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/14/opinion/14KRUG.html?th.  He focuses on
the recessionary and inflationary impact on the U.S.  But China should be a
bigger concern (I mean, under the radical assumption that one Chinese is
just as much a human being as an American).  Their development plan would be
under tremendous stress with widespread regional reverberations.  If
something like this happens, it'll of course be temporary.  Over time,
painful adjustments will be made to absorb the shock.  There'll be some
political turmoil, but if the world doesn't break into little pieces and
even if it does, the proverbial elasticity of long-run supply and demand
will kick in.
It'd redound in a temporary boost for Russia, Mexico, and Venezuela.
Talking about Mexico, they should take to heart the lessons of the 1976-1982
oil boom.  Back then, the country leveraged its oil resources in the markets
like there was no tomorrow and pushed import substitution a notch up (trying
to build a large petrochemical industry, with tremendous mismanagement and
plunder by government top, PEMEX bureaucracy, and union leaders).  They
forgot to hedge against a drop in the oil price and/or (like the banks)
against an interest rate hike.  When Mr. Volcker came in 1979 with his big,
fat inflation-buster Dan Aykroyd kind of gun and began to increase the rate,
they thought everything was under control.  Then in 1982 the oil price
dropped and so much for the binge.
Joseph Stiglitz claimed (in his 2002 ECLAC lecture) that the main
responsibility for the lost decade in Latin America falls on the banks
(pushers of abundant loans without proper risk assessment) and the Fed's
anti-inflation therapy.  He suggests that, although the Fed had no formal
mandate to ponder the effects of its policies on the rest of the world, it
should have been common sense... because those effects backfire on the U.S.
(I guess, Volcker was teaching the banks a lesson on moral hazard.  Except
that U.S. taxpayers and Latin Americans ended up paying it.)
Stiglitzian Monday-morning quarterbacking perhaps, but I liked his little
mental exercise: Imagine -- he says -- that the balance sheets of Latin
American firms had been dandy, including those of state-owned firms, circa
1979 or 1980.  Now there's this hike in the interest rate induced by the
Fed.  What would have happened to Latin America as a result of just that?
Hard to do the econometrics (he didn't even try), but he suggests that it
would have been enough to devastate Latin America just by itself.  The idea
is that import substitution strategies were flawed, but not to the extent
Krueger, Bhagwati, and others have claimed to justify dismantling them.
All that is fine as ammo to denounce the unfairness of the international
system, blah, blah, blah... but from their standpoint, Latin Americans have
to operate under the assumption that they don't control those variables.  I
know that PEN-L will soon become a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary party, and
will lead a successful revolution in the U.S. in the near future, but
meanwhile -- it just rains, you either bring an umbrella or get soaked.
Julio

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Samuel Huntington's racism

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
NPQ, Spring 2004

Huntington and the Mask of Racism

Carlos Fuentes, the Mexican novelist, is a member of NPQs advisory 
board. Translation by Thomas D. Morin, Professor of Hispanic Studies, 
University of Rhode Island, Kingston.

Mexico CityThe best Indian is a dead Indian. The best nigger is a 
nigger slave. The yellow threat. The red threat. The Puritanism one 
finds at the base of WASP culture (White, Anglo Saxon, and Protestant) 
in the United States of America expresses itself, from time to time, 
with shocking color. Now, another of these forceful and freely expressed 
simplistic ideas can be added to the colorful expressions already 
mentioned: The Brown Menace.

The proponent of this idea is Professor Samuel P. Huntington, the 
tireless voice of alarm with respect to the menace that the idea of the 
other represents for the foundational soul of white, protestant, 
Anglo-Saxon United States of America. That there existed (and, still, 
exists) an indigenous-America (Huntington uses the United States as a 
name for the entire continent) prior to the European colonization is of 
no concern to him. That besides Anglo-America, there existed a prior 
French-America (Louisiana) and, even, a Russian-America (Alaska) is of 
no interest to Huntington. What worries him is Hispanic-America, the 
America of Ruben Dario, the America that speaks Spanish and believes in 
God. For Huntington, this brown danger is an indispensable danger for a 
nation that requires, in order to exist, an identifiable external 
menace. Moby Dick, the white whale, is a symbol of this attitude which, 
fortunately, not all North Americans share, including John Quincy Adams, 
the sixth president of the North American nation, who warned his 
countrymen: Let us not go out into the world in search of monsters to 
destroy.

Huntington, in his Clash of Civilizations, discovers his necessary 
external monster (once the USSR and the red danger disappeared) in an 
Islam poised to assault the borders of Western Civilization, in an 
attempt to outdo the feats of Saladino, the Sultan, who captured 
Jerusalem in 1187. As a result, Huntington outdoes the Christian Crusade 
of Richard the Lion Hearted in the Holy Land. Huntington the Lion 
Hearteds anti-Islamic Crusade expresses the profound racism in his 
heart and, in similar manner, his profound ignorance of the true 
kulturkampf evident in the Islamic world. Islam is not poised to invade 
the West. Islam is living, from Algeria to Iran, its own cultural and 
political battle between conservatives and Islamic liberals. It is a 
vertical battle, deep within, not a horizontal one of expansion.

The Mexican as exploiter | Huntingtons new crusade is directed against 
Mexico and the Mexicans that live, work, and enrich life in the northern 
nation. As far as Huntington is concerned, Mexicans do not livethey 
invade; they do not workthey exploit; and, they do not enrichthey 
impoverish, since poverty is part a Mexicans natural condition. All of 
this, when taking into account the number of Mexicans and Latin 
Americans in the United States, constitutes a cultural threat for that 
which Huntington dares to mention: the Anglo-American, Protestant, and 
Anglo speaking white race.

Are Mexicans invading the US? No, they are simply obeying the laws of 
the job market. There are job offers for Mexicans because there is a 
North American labor need. If some day, there were to exist full 
employment in Mexico, the US would have to find cheap labor from another 
country for the jobs whites, Saxons, and Protestantsnaming them as does 
Huntingtondo not want to fill, since they have either surpassed these 
levels of employment, or because they have grown old, due to the fact 
that the economy of the US has passed from the industrial period, to the 
post-industrial, technological, information age.

Do Mexicans exploit the US? According to Huntington, Mexicans constitute 
an unjust burden for the US economy: they receive more than they give back.

All of this is false. California earmarks a billion dollars a year to 
educate the children of immigrants. But if it were to do 
otherwiselisten up, Schwarzeneggerthe state would lose $16 billion a 
year in federal aid to education. Similarly, Mexican migrant workers pay 
$29 billion a year more in taxes than the services they receive.

full: http://www.digitalnpq.org/archive/2004_spring/fuentes.html

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Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2



In a message dated 5/14/2004 7:52:28 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population. Gorby adores Putin.90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what theythink, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of theAmerican population thinks about undocumented workers, gay marriage, the Cuban revolution, etc.


Comment

Why fight staw men when the economic questions loom large. The Medvedev Interview provided information with an economic content. Since no one disputes that Putin is a representative and guardian of bourgeois property . . . what is the strife? 

The economic and class content of bureaucracy and how leaders of classes and the classes respond to material bureaucracy is interesting. Consider all the ideological proclamations by the neo-cons about welfare in America. The welfare bureaucracy is a . . . bureaucracy or contains its own economic logic. On the one hand attempts to cut the food stamp program provokes resistence from a section of capital - money, tied to agricultural production. A small but politically powerful section of capital says, "the people are hungry and want food" and the major food distributors join in this out cry. 

I am speaking of the major chains like AP, Farmer Jack, Walmart and the likes. Bureaucracy is not an abstraction. 

On the other hand the bureaucratic structure that is the federal - nationwide, administrative apparatus that is welfare is composed of millions of real people that go to work everyday and make wages . . . that is this bureaucracy is made up of working proletarians and seek to perpetuate itself as an economic entity. This bureaucracy - we are talking about real people, receiving money and spending money or helping todrive reproduction and the realization of surplus value - profits. No amount of sloganeering on the part of politicians is going to destroy the bureaucracy because it embody profound economic interest. 

A massive amount of welfare money is used simply to drive the bureaucracy and herein lies the economic or rather class and property relations. Why should the old Soviet bureaucracy . . . or any bureaucracy for that matter be any different in its class and economic content? 

To pose matters as ideological equations prevent the unraveling of the economic and class content of the bureaucracy that one is so upset about. The Medvedev interview mentions various aspects of the bureaucracy and goes to inordinate length to show that Putin is not surrounding by just the intelligence sector of the bureaucracy. The economists around Putin are no different from the economists in America in the sense that they are men and women being paid money and part of the societal bureaucracy, characteristic of every industrial society. 

All the ideological screaming about bureaucracy blind sides everyone from ascertaining its class and economic content in modern society. No one is every going to defeat the bureaucracy in any country on earth because of its economic reality. For all his pronouncements, George W, if he wins the upcoming election, is going to expand the bureaucracy because human will and politics is not going to defeat an economic imperative. 

The shape of the bureaucracy as organizations of men and women is altered on the basis of technological changes that revolutionize distribution (information flow, planning and accounting) and every bureaucracy distributes "something." 

Putin is not going to defeat the bureaucracy. George W. is not going to defeat the bureaucracy and without question Mr. Stalin did not and could not defeat the bureaucracy. The reason is that the bureaucracy does not arise from politics, but rather from the division of labor in society - at least in its genesis. The idea that the old Soviet bureaucracy arose as police action - an assertion of political and ideological Trotskyism, is not very well thought out because Soviet society and Russia today is an industrial society (in transition) with certain indispensable functions tied to the reproduction process. 

The unfolding "class struggle" in America is going to be an exceptionally complex process involving entrenched economic interest, overcoming the force of habit, and without question confronting the bureaucratic order and this bureaucratic order is not going to be abolished because it is not possible. The bureaucratic order can be placed on a different property basis and slowly - a thousand years, begin withering. 

Here is the economic and class content of the withering away of the state. 

Melvin P. 

Melvin P. 


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Glad to see you remain the same alienating asshole as ever, Lou.

Mr Doss has done nothing but offer his own opinion and plenty of
interesting material. I see no problem or a need to cut him down. (All
your hackneyed adjectives about his posts are a reminder why you don't
have a book contract.)

Your level of immature debate remains these kind of catty remarks which
divide more than unite.

Splitting hairs about leftist faith is for the monks of victory. Our job
is to unite.

Ken.

 Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the
population.

 Gorby adores Putin.

90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they
think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the
American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay
marriage, the
Cuban revolution, etc.

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Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Chris Doss
 Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population.

 Gorby adores Putin.

90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they
think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the
American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay marriage, the Cuban 
revolution, etc.

---

You'd better make some attempt to understand _why_ they think what they think, and 
know some basic facts, which you don't. Or you can continue to substitute mechanical 
application of categories for thought and engaging in ideological autofellation, which 
is of course easier and oh-so-satisfying, though it can be a pain on the back.

Sorry Michael P., I will simply ignore anything this guy writes as I was doing before 
so as to avoid tiresome flame wars. I only accidentally saw the comment when it got 
quoted in someone else's post.


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Doss wrote:

You'd better make some attempt to understand _why_ they think what they
think
---

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e.
the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same
time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of
material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over
the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the
ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to
it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the
dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships
grasped as ideas; hence of the relationships which make the one class
the ruling one, therefore, the ideas of its dominance.
The German Ideology

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Victory for Putin in battle for 'Russia's BBC1'
Ian Traynor in Moscow
Guardian
Tuesday September 5, 2000

Russia's summer-long struggle for control of national television turned
sharply towards victory for President Vladimir Putin yesterday when the
influential Russian media mogul, Boris Berezovsky, announced that he was
surrendering control of Russia's main state channel.
The concession, coupled with a searing attack on Mr Putin's campaign to
tame the free media, left the Kremlin confident that the two most
important television channels in Russia and the most formidable sources
of opposition were being brought to heel.
In what was seen as a big victory for Mr Putin, who has made control of
the media, particularly national television, a central plank in his
campaign to entrench his political power, Mr Berezovsky said he was
surrendering his 49% share of ORT, the main state television channel, to
journalists and intellectuals after coming under intense pressure from
the Kremlin and being presented with an ultimatum.
In a letter to Mr Putin, leaked to the Interfax news agency, Mr
Berezovsky said one of the president's most senior aides had told him he
had a fortnight to get rid of the ORT shares. Mr Berezovsky alleged he
was threatened with imprisonment if he continued to defy Mr Putin.
full: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4059391,00.html

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Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2



In a message dated 5/14/2004 8:40:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This bureaucracy - we are talking about real people, receiving money and spending money or helping todrive reproduction and the realization of surplus value - profits. No amount of sloganeering on the part of politicians is going to destroy the bureaucracy because it embody profound economic interest. 
Additional

Bush W. or rather Congress "Patriot Act" . . . expands the bureaucratic order or the bureaucracy. Shifting half a million people off of welfare and adding half a million to structures performing police action and another half million into the military, does not change the material fact or shape of bureaucracy and the economic logic that drives this process. 

Everything is tied to reproduction - value, and the realizations of profits in our society. Millions of people are jailed in our society as part of the bureaucratic order and its economic content is not hard to discern. The concerted effort to turn the penal institutions into production entities producing commodities for sale in the market, is only part of the equation. 

Prison construction drove the "building" or "housing industry" for many years and capital only understands profits . . .and the prison administration . . . down to the lowly guard becomes important to the economic imperative of reproduction . . . which is driven by and presupposes consumption. 

It seems to me . . . with my superficial views, that the Gulag in the old Soviet Union was designed to drive reproduction. Under such circumstances I personally would never be late to work and probably would have won one of the "Heroes of labor medals." I have no need to justify anything but rather try to discern - in a superficial way, the economic content of the social process. 

The 30 year cry for "law and order" that was escalated during the Nixon years, contains economic logic, directing impacting reproduction. At that time I had not the opportunity to reach the superficial level. 

Sure, we encounter this issue of "law and order" in the ideological and political sphere . . . but Pen-L is about economics. 

The bureaucratic order is infinitely wider than simply the police and state, however. 

Melvin P. 

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Re: Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I would not like us to get involved in internal disputes.  It will lead to no good.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Chris Doss

 Why fight staw men when the economic questions loom large.

Because that's easier and doesn't require thought. Further comment below.


 Putin is not going to defeat the bureaucracy. George W. is not going to
 defeat the bureaucracy and without question Mr. Stalin did not and could not defeat
 the bureaucracy. The reason is that the bureaucracy does not arise from
 politics, but rather from the division of labor in society - at least in its
 genesis. The idea that the old Soviet bureaucracy arose as police action - an
 assertion of political and ideological Trotskyism, is not very well thought out
 because Soviet society and Russia today is an industrial society (in transition)
 with certain indispensable functions tied to the reproduction process.

You make a lot of interesting comments. (Personally, I think blaming the Soviet 
bureaucracy on Stalinism is a red herring; I tend to think the bureaucracy is a 
product of having to control an enormous territory with a sparsely inhabited 
population. Russia has always had a giant bureaucracy.)

I think that the defining event of the past 4-5 years in Russia, in terms of domestic 
politics, has been the struggle between the bureaucracy and big business, the 
so-called oligarchy. Not that the bureaucracy wants to destroy big business, as it 
exists as rent-seeker on it; rather, it wants to harness it for its own ends (Russian 
bureaucrats aren't exactly just proletarians, unless you are talking about people very 
low on the totem pole). That was behind Yeltsin's resignation and the main story 
behind the Putin presidency. They seem to be winning.

Actually Russia appears to be swinging back, after a brief interval, to the model of 
top-down state-sponsored development and politics that it has been repeating in 
different forms since at least Ivan the Terrible.

I find it very interesting that, despite three revolutions and two huge upsets of 
class relations in the past 100 years, the Russian system is still recognizably a 
variant of the model that was established in the tsarist era -- authoritarian in form 
but anarchic in content, with relations between the periphery and the center (i.e., 
Moscow) characterized in terms of fealty and tribute, and with the bureaucracy still 
omnipotent and still a rent-seeker. Indeed, Dead Souls reads very contemporary in a 
lot of ways. It is still very recognizably the same place.


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
If you want to ignore somebody, go ahead.  Making your feelings public adds nothing.

On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 06:03:41PM +0400, Chris Doss  wrote:
  Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population.
 
  Gorby adores Putin.

 90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they
 think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the
 American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay marriage, the Cuban 
 revolution, etc.

 ---

 You'd better make some attempt to understand _why_ they think what they think, and 
 know some basic facts, which you don't. Or you can continue to substitute mechanical 
 application of categories for thought and engaging in ideological autofellation, 
 which is of course easier and oh-so-satisfying, though it can be a pain on the back.

 Sorry Michael P., I will simply ignore anything this guy writes as I was doing 
 before so as to avoid tiresome flame wars. I only accidentally saw the comment when 
 it got quoted in someone else's post.

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
Wow.  I have not seen a threat degenerate so fast before.  Both Lou and Ken should
cool it.

I invited Chris here because he does have a lot of information on Russia.  I do not
share his views about Putin, but I still learn from him.

People are welcome to disagree with him, but to announce you will not read his posts
or to call Lou an asshole won't work here!

I have not been able to sort out how the thread has gone in the last 12 hours; only
to see threads with lots of anger.

On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:05:08AM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
 Glad to see you remain the same alienating asshole as ever, Lou.

 Mr Doss has done nothing but offer his own opinion and plenty of
 interesting material. I see no problem or a need to cut him down. (All
 your hackneyed adjectives about his posts are a reminder why you don't
 have a book contract.)

 Your level of immature debate remains these kind of catty remarks which
 divide more than unite.

 Splitting hairs about leftist faith is for the monks of victory. Our job
 is to unite.

 Ken.

  Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the
 population.
 
  Gorby adores Putin.
 
 90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they
 think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the
 American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay
 marriage, the
 Cuban revolution, etc.
 
 --
 
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

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E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Grin...

Michael... I don't mind the thread.

Someone has to point out what Louis does... Which is divide. Mr.Doss has
provided a fresh and direct perspective, so what? It was like your
invitation to that Chicago right wing lawyer chap...

We learn thorugh being in contact.

As for the asshole comment... I retract, it was not emotional merely
informational.

Ken.


Re: Background to Berg Beheading

2004-05-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Internet Hate Group Targeted Michael S. Berg, Company

by the Sandwichman
In the interest of wider exposure, I linked to Tom's PEN-l posting
and MaxSpeak blog entry:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/05/here-is-enemy-montage-at-work.html.
Juxtapose facts into a montage, and set readers to work.  :-)
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php,  http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student International Forum: http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/
* Al-Awda-Ohio: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio
* Solidarity: http://www.solidarity-us.org/


Bremer the prophet

2004-05-14 Thread k hanly
Source: Lucy May, Homeland security adviser speaks to local business
leaders, Business Courier, 25 February 2003,
http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2003/02/24/daily23.html



Bremer estimated a war would be over within four to six weeks but said the
process of rebuilding Iraq afterwards is likely to take years.

We're going to be on the ground in Iraq as soldiers and citizens for years.
We're going to be running a colony almost, Bremer said, adding that one of
the most important reasons to get more international support before
launching a war is to get more help in rebuilding the country afterwards.


Re: Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled

2004-05-14 Thread Drewk
Michael,

Why do you characterize this as an internal dispute, rather than
a matter of freedom of expression?

Does this mean you will not be supporting my right to teach and
not to have my course announcements tampered with?

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Michael
Perelman
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled


I would not like us to get involved in internal disputes.  It will
lead to no good.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I just don't think that it will help the list.  I am trying to calm down
the Putin flame now.  I have no problem with your right to teach.

On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:55:21AM -0400, Drewk wrote:
 Michael,

 Why do you characterize this as an internal dispute, rather than
 a matter of freedom of expression?

 Does this mean you will not be supporting my right to teach and
 not to have my course announcements tampered with?

 Andrew

 -Original Message-
 From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Michael
 Perelman
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled


 I would not like us to get involved in internal disputes.  It will
 lead to no good.
 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929

 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
Just keep the personal stuff off list.  I agree with you about Chris.

On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:13:37AM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
 Grin...

 Michael... I don't mind the thread.

 Someone has to point out what Louis does... Which is divide. Mr.Doss has
 provided a fresh and direct perspective, so what? It was like your
 invitation to that Chicago right wing lawyer chap...

 We learn thorugh being in contact.

 As for the asshole comment... I retract, it was not emotional merely
 informational.

 Ken.

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


News source on Iraq

2004-05-14 Thread k hanly
This is a US govt. funded news source but it nevertheless is a treasure of
world press reports on Iraq. It includes quite a few videos from Islamic
militants as well. With translations.

http://tides.carebridge.org/

Cheers, Ken Hanly


The perfect magazine for Hitchens to write for

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, May 14, 2004
Vanity Fair Editor Got $100,000 for Suggesting a Movie
By DAVID CARR and SHARON WAXMAN
Graydon Carter, editor in chief of Vanity Fair, received a $100,000
payment from Universal Studios in 2003 for suggesting years earlier that
the book A Beautiful Mind'' be made into a film, executives involved
with the film said. The payment was confirmed by a spokeswoman for the
magazine.
The film was produced by Imagine Entertainment, whose principals, Brian
Grazer and Ron Howard, have made Vanity Fair's annual list of new
establishment power brokers the last two years, and whose other projects
have received attentive coverage in the magazine.
The entertainment press and Hollywood have more of a symbiotic
relationship than the news media do with many other businesses -
magazines and other news organizations compete for access to the
studios' biggest stars, and also depend on the studios for advertising.
But the payment of consulting fees to a magazine editor who controls
coverage of industry subjects has no precedent, according to executives
in the publishing and film industry as well as journalism scholars.
Vanity Fair has been blurring the lines for some time, said Cynthia
Gorney, associate dean of the Graduate School of Journalism at the
University of California, Berkeley. But there is something particularly
distressing about the nice round figure of $100,000 and the fact that it
directly lined Mr. Carter's pocket.
full: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/14/business/media/14mag.html

--

The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org


Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2



In a message dated 5/14/2004 9:23:36 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think that the defining event of the past 4-5 years in Russia, in terms of domestic politics, has been the struggle between the bureaucracy and big business, the so-called "oligarchy." Not that the bureaucracy wants to destroy big business, as it exists as rent-seeker on it; rather, it wants to harness it for its own ends (Russian bureaucrats aren't exactly just proletarians, unless you are talking about people very low on the totem pole). That was behind Yeltsin's resignation and the main story behind the Putin presidency. They seem to be winning.Actually Russia appears to be swinging back, after a brief interval, to the model of top-down state-sponsored development and politics that it has been repeating in different forms since at least Ivan the Terrible.

Reply

Putin is the CEO of a corporation called Russia. This corporation went out of business and was defeated in the world market. There are many complex and interactive reasons for the defeat of this corporation. Much of this has to do with the products that could be sent into play in the world market. Oil, furs and agricultural products will do good in the 1920s, 1930s and even the 1940s, but you are going to run into the law of value. 

The law of value in this sense simply means that if you want to buy my advanced machinery you must give me my money (not your money which may or may not be exchangeable in the world market) or gold or something that is the equivalent of what I am charging formy machinery. This why I can convert your product intoa recognizable form of capital in the world market. 

It gets tricky. 

"Sorry your one million pounds of wheat is not worth what it was two years ago because improvements in technology - Argentina, pays me twice as much as what you are asking and we cannot make a deal . . . . unless you reduce you request my half." 

This economic transaction produced a political crisis within the political structure of Soviet society and heads began to roll. This change in exchange rates would produce a crisis in any country that had not revolutionized its productive forces to stay in harmony with the leader in technology. 

If the law of value speaks to the amount of human labor in socially necessary means of production, - the socially necessary amount of human labor that goes into the production of a commodity, then . . . when the "Next man" reduces the human labor cost of his commodities, exchange is going to be impacted in a way that is not in your favor. 

This is what happened at the meeting.

"Comrade Economic Adviser ain't shit and has wrong theory and is soft on the imperialists. Yesterday we paid one million pounds of wealth for our equipment and today we must pay two million for the same thing. Are you taking bribes Comrades." 

Comrade Economic Adviser rises to explain things. 

"Dear Comrades, we can make better sense of our task of socialist construction if we read a couple of fucking books and what Marx said about the law of value. Pardon.

"Did notComrade Lenin say, that the bourgeoisie was going to sell us the rope we use to hang him with?" 

Everyone in the audience leap from their seats in wild applause. Comrade Economic advisor get a standing ovation. The meeting is disrupted and the vodka is taken from under the seats of the delegates. Endless toasts are given proclaiming the death of bourgeois property and the personal jailing of the bourgeoisie. 

"Long live Lenin and the Great Stalin." 

The sound of clanking glasses can be heard for miles and the voices of the delegates inspire another 100,000 citizens into the task of selfless communist labor. Ivan average has not thought out that the product of his labor is to be exchanged for a set of products that will be used to expand the industrial basis of the Proletarian Motherland (without quotes) extensively and intensively. 

Comrade Economic Advisor stands before the audience and with hands raised bring the cheers to an end. It is quieter in the auditorium than a church mouse. 

"Comrades we have to think things out. Comrade Lenin did not say how much we would have to pay for the rope the bourgeoisie sells us, we willing him with." 

The proletarian insurgency is stunned. In the background someone says "what the fuck is price? Ain't that some bourgeois economic bullshit?"

(The bureaucratic order is on everyone ass day and night - 24/7, because it is infinitely more than the police and ensures the process of reproduction, . . . by definition. If we surrender the economic categories used as exposition, then we can all go home and turn out the lights on Pen-L). 

Comrade Economic Advisor brings silence to the great hall of Lenin. He states: 

"Comrades . . . the price of the rope has gone up and if we are to purchase rope , , , and carry out the behest of Lenin . . . then we have to pay the cost in the world market.

"Just because our currency inside Mother 

Cuban response to new Bush offensive

2004-05-14 Thread michael a. lebowitz



Date
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Re: Marx Conference in Havana just completed
by Michael Perelman
14 May 2004 02:00 UTC

  
Thread
Index

  
Thank you, Michael, for the excellent report.

Thank you. I think people missed a good one.
 I understand that Cuba
was 
trying to
draw back from the dollar economy a bit before Bush acted. Am I
wrong?

Could you teach us something about the evolution of the cuban economy?

Thanks again.

Unfortunately,
I'm not able to keep up with developments in Cuba as much as I would like
because I'm absorbed in Venezuela. I'm sure others know much more.
There's no question in my mind that Fidel and many others see the market
as corrupting and would like to foster solidarity and to increase moral
incentives rather than to let self-interest be in command. However, my
sense is that there is no desire to pull back from the dollar economy as
such. Cuba desperately needs dollars to pay for imports, and having
locals ask their US relatives to send money is important in permitting
them to purchase many things like the food, medicine, etc they don't
produce. This is especially important in the context of high oil prices
(much higher than budgeted for). I think this need has accelerated
efforts to economise on the use of the USD.
It is
important to understand that, although people know that there is the peso
economy and the dollar economy in Cuba (and that tourists and
increasingly Cubans live in the latter), Cuba really has a 3rd currency--
the convertible peso (which is a perfect substitute for the usd
internally); in this particular respect, Cuba is not a dollarised economy
because they have complete control over the extent of convertible pesos
in circulation--- ie., to this extent they retain their monetary
sovereignty. Within the last year, the government has been moving to
reduce the circulation of the usd between enterprises, replacing this
with the convertible peso and has pushed to get the usd into the central
bank faster. Ie., faced with scarcity of the usd for imports, it is
economising on its use and substituting the convertible peso for internal
circulation. If I'm correct about what is happening, it would be entirely
consistent-- in the context of a real threat of reduced usd as the result
of the new Bush offensive--- for them to extend this to purchase of
consumer durables, ie., to further substitute that peso by requiring
people to exchange their usd for these. This could occur while not in any
way reducing the demand for usd remittances (and, in fact, prices of
these could be increased at the same time). Again, this is only my own
speculation as to what is occurring. What is not speculation, on the
other hand, is that Cuba remains in difficult economic shape (if only
they can succeed in finding that good oil!) and somehow manages to keep
going.
I hope
this helps and stimulates someone who knows more to comment.
in
solidarity,

michael
ps. I've seen on tv this morning a massive crowd (and a very tired-looking Fidel) out in front of the US interests building in Havana, protesting the Bush moves.

Michael A. Lebowitz
Professor Emeritus
Economics Department
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6

Currently based in Venezuela. Can be reached at

Residencias Anauco Suites
Departamento 601
Parque Central, Zona Postal 1010, Oficina 1
Caracas, Venezuela
(58-212) 573-4111
fax: (58-212) 573-7724



Once a Suspect, Always a Suspect?

2004-05-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
It turns out that a story of degrees of separation fit for satire
has killed not only thousands of Iraqis, hundreds of US and allied
troops, and others but may also have been a factor in Nick Berg's
13-day detention in Iraq, which Nick's father Michael Berg believes
has led to Nick's death, making it impossible for Nick to leave Iraq
on March 30 as he had intended to. According to Nicole Weisensee Egan:
Yesterday, the Daily News reported that another reason that Nick Berg
had been held for so long was that the FBI was checking into some
contact he may have had with terrorists while he attended the
University of Oklahoma. . . .
For more on the topic, see Once a Suspect, Always a Suspect?:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/05/once-suspect-always-suspect.html.
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php,  http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student International Forum: http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/
* Al-Awda-Ohio: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio
* Solidarity: http://www.solidarity-us.org/


Re: Samuel Huntington's racism

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/04 9:16 AM 
NPQ, Spring 2004
Huntington and the Mask of Racism
Carlos Fuentes, the Mexican novelist, is a member of NPQ's advisory 
board. Translation by Thomas D. Morin, Professor of Hispanic Studies, 
University of Rhode Island, Kingston.
Mexico CityThe best Indian is a dead Indian. The best nigger is a 
nigger slave. The yellow threat. The red threat. The Puritanism one 
finds at the base of WASP culture (White, Anglo Saxon, and Protestant) 
in the United States of America expresses itself, from time to time, 
with shocking color. Now, another of these forceful and freely expressed 
simplistic ideas can be added to the colorful expressions already 
mentioned: The Brown Menace.
The proponent of this idea is Professor Samuel P. Huntington, the 
tireless voice of alarm with respect to the menace that the idea of the 
other represents for the foundational soul of white, protestant, 
Anglo-Saxon United States of America. 
Huntington, in his Clash of Civilizations, discovers his necessary 
external monster (once the USSR and the red danger disappeared) in an 
Islam poised to assault the borders of Western Civilization,.
The Mexican as exploiter | Huntington's new crusade is directed against 
Mexico and the Mexicans that live, work, and enrich life in the northern 
nation. As far as Huntington is concerned, Mexicans do not livethey 
invade; they do not workthey exploit; and, they do not enrichthey 
impoverish, since poverty is part a Mexican's natural condition. All of 
this, when taking into account the number of Mexicans and Latin 
Americans in the United States, constitutes a cultural threat for that 
which Huntington dares to mention: the Anglo-American, Protestant, and 
Anglo speaking white race.


lest anyone forget, huntington's reprehensible career predates 'clash of 
civilizations' by decades...he worked for cia, he devised so-called 'strategic hamlet' 
strategy in vietnam, he posited forced urbanizaion/'modernization' for third world, he 
sounded post-60s 'excess of democracy' alarm...

poli sci people who study government regulation often cite his mid-century study of 
the interstate commerce commission as important contribution to so-called 'capture 
theory'...michael hoover  



Anything follows from a contradiction

2004-05-14 Thread k hanly
therefore the US will stay no matter what...unless it decides to bail out is
in its interest.

Cheers, Ken Hanly

When first asked by House International Relations Committee members whether
an interim Iraqi government could force U.S. troops to leave, Grossman
stressed that Iraqi leaders wanted them to remain. He also said that the
Iraqi interim constitution and a U.N. resolution gave them authority to do
so.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican, kept asking Grossman, ''If
they ask us to leave, we will leave, will we not?'' Pressed for a yes-or-no
answer, Grossman eventually said yes.

But he later agreed with another panelist, Lt. Gen. Walter L. Sharp, that
the interim constitution and U.N. resolution gave U.S.-led forces
responsibility for Iraqi security for the immediate future.

After the hearing, Grossman was asked if that meant U.S. forces would not
leave if asked by the interim government. ''That is correct,'' he said.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/135/world/Bremer_tells_Iraqi_leaders_US_:.shtml