Re: Energy deregulation GATS

2001-01-23 Thread Jim Devine

It seems to me that Governor Gray Davis has a easy solution to the current 
energy crunch, which seems to have shut pen-l down for awhile: he could 
allow electricity retail prices to rise, while allowing California 
consumers to write off electricity costs on their state income taxes this 
year. (The latter is possible because the state government is running a 
budget surplus.)  This is not the best solution, but it would work, perhaps 
to give breathing room to allow a better solution. Gene, what do you think?

At 05:49 PM 1/22/01 -0800, you wrote:

The Globe and Mail  January
22, 2001

U.S. touts California-style power plan

 By Barrie McKenna

SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. government is pushing California-
style power deregulation on the rest of the world even as the state's
controversial electricity free market experiment continues to unravel
at home.
 Just weeks before Californians were hit with the first power
blackouts since the Second World War, the United States was
quietly lobbying in Geneva to convince Canada and other U.S.
trading partners that electricity deregulation should be an integral
part of a proposed free trade in services deal.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




RE: Re: Energy deregulation GATS

2001-01-23 Thread Max Sawicky

problem is a lot of folks pay little or no income
tax but still pay utility bills.

mbs


It seems to me that Governor Gray Davis has a easy solution to the current
energy crunch, which seems to have shut pen-l down for awhile: he could
allow electricity retail prices to rise, while allowing California
consumers to write off electricity costs on their state income taxes this
year. (The latter is possible because the state government is running a
budget surplus.)  This is not the best solution, but it would work, perhaps
to give breathing room to allow a better solution. Gene, what do you think?

At 05:49 PM 1/22/01 -0800, you wrote:

The Globe and Mail  January
22, 2001

U.S. touts California-style power plan

 By Barrie McKenna

SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. government is pushing California-
style power deregulation on the rest of the world even as the state's
controversial electricity free market experiment continues to unravel
at home.
 Just weeks before Californians were hit with the first power
blackouts since the Second World War, the United States was
quietly lobbying in Geneva to convince Canada and other U.S.
trading partners that electricity deregulation should be an integral
part of a proposed free trade in services deal.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: RE: Re: Energy deregulation GATS

2001-01-23 Thread Jim Devine

then, make it a refundable tax credit, or lower the state sales tax further.

At 11:55 AM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote:
problem is a lot of folks pay little or no income
tax but still pay utility bills.

mbs


It seems to me that Governor Gray Davis has a easy solution to the current
energy crunch, which seems to have shut pen-l down for awhile: he could
allow electricity retail prices to rise, while allowing California
consumers to write off electricity costs on their state income taxes this
year. (The latter is possible because the state government is running a
budget surplus.)  This is not the best solution, but it would work, perhaps
to give breathing room to allow a better solution. Gene, what do you think?

At 05:49 PM 1/22/01 -0800, you wrote:

 The Globe and Mail  January
 22, 2001
 
 U.S. touts California-style power plan
 
  By Barrie McKenna
 
 SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. government is pushing California-
 style power deregulation on the rest of the world even as the state's
 controversial electricity free market experiment continues to unravel
 at home.
  Just weeks before Californians were hit with the first power
 blackouts since the Second World War, the United States was
 quietly lobbying in Geneva to convince Canada and other U.S.
 trading partners that electricity deregulation should be an integral
 part of a proposed free trade in services deal.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Re: RE: Re: Energy deregulation GATS

2001-01-23 Thread Eugene Coyle

Just quickly:  Jim, are you proposing to funnel public money to the utilities
by them charging customers higher prices and then the customers get re-imbursed
out of the state treasury?  Utilities get more money, customers come out even,
but taxpayers pay?

Not very appealing to me.  For twenty-five years we've had national and
states giving money to low income people to offset the utility bills.  I've
never like that, either.  Just keeps the political temperature down while
paying utilities top dollar, doesn't it?

Gene

Jim Devine wrote:

 then, make it a refundable tax credit, or lower the state sales tax further.

 At 11:55 AM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote:
 problem is a lot of folks pay little or no income
 tax but still pay utility bills.
 
 mbs
 
 
 It seems to me that Governor Gray Davis has a easy solution to the current
 energy crunch, which seems to have shut pen-l down for awhile: he could
 allow electricity retail prices to rise, while allowing California
 consumers to write off electricity costs on their state income taxes this
 year. (The latter is possible because the state government is running a
 budget surplus.)  This is not the best solution, but it would work, perhaps
 to give breathing room to allow a better solution. Gene, what do you think?
 
 At 05:49 PM 1/22/01 -0800, you wrote:
 
  The Globe and Mail  January
  22, 2001
  
  U.S. touts California-style power plan
  
   By Barrie McKenna
  
  SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. government is pushing California-
  style power deregulation on the rest of the world even as the state's
  controversial electricity free market experiment continues to unravel
  at home.
   Just weeks before Californians were hit with the first power
  blackouts since the Second World War, the United States was
  quietly lobbying in Geneva to convince Canada and other U.S.
  trading partners that electricity deregulation should be an integral
  part of a proposed free trade in services deal.
 
 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Re: Energy deregulation GATS

2001-01-23 Thread Margaret Coleman

The tax write off answer is better than no solution at all, but there are two
problems:
1.  It doesn't address the basic issues -- deregulation has caused shortages
and rampant energy price inflation.
2.  It assumes that consumer will have enough money to pay quickly escalating
costs and then wait a year to ge their money back. For the poor, especially the
elderly on fixed incomes, this may not be true.  maggie coleman

Jim Devine wrote:

 It seems to me that Governor Gray Davis has a easy solution to the current
 energy crunch, which seems to have shut pen-l down for awhile: he could
 allow electricity retail prices to rise, while allowing California
 consumers to write off electricity costs on their state income taxes this
 year. (The latter is possible because the state government is running a
 budget surplus.)  This is not the best solution, but it would work, perhaps
 to give breathing room to allow a better solution. Gene, what do you think?

 At 05:49 PM 1/22/01 -0800, you wrote:

 The Globe and Mail  January
 22, 2001
 
 U.S. touts California-style power plan
 
  By Barrie McKenna
 
 SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. government is pushing California-
 style power deregulation on the rest of the world even as the state's
 controversial electricity free market experiment continues to unravel
 at home.
  Just weeks before Californians were hit with the first power
 blackouts since the Second World War, the United States was
 quietly lobbying in Geneva to convince Canada and other U.S.
 trading partners that electricity deregulation should be an integral
 part of a proposed free trade in services deal.

 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine





Energy deregulation GATS

2001-01-22 Thread Lisa Ian Murray





The Globe and Mail  January
22, 2001

U.S. touts California-style power plan

By Barrie McKenna

SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. government is pushing California-
style power deregulation on the rest of the world even as the state's
controversial electricity free market experiment continues to unravel
at home.
Just weeks before Californians were hit with the first power
blackouts since the Second World War, the United States was
quietly lobbying in Geneva to convince Canada and other U.S.
trading partners that electricity deregulation should be an integral
part of a proposed free trade in services deal.
Negotiators at the World Trade Organization are currently
working on a General Agreement on Trade in Services, or GATS,
aimed at cutting barriers on billions of dollars worth of trade.
The United States has pushed hard to include energy -- once
treated as a good -- in the services agreement.
And in a negotiating position filed last month in Geneva, U.S.
trade officials went further, proposing that the deal be subject to a
regulatory test that is similar to the guiding principles behind
California's electricity deregulation law.
Among other features, the United States wants global regulatory
guidelines requiring "non-discriminatory third-party access to and
interconnection with energy networks and grids, where they are
dominated by government entities or dominant suppliers,"
according to documents released by the WTO.
But some critics said that if WTO members embrace the U.S.
plan, California and other jurisdictions around the world would have
a hard time stopping -- let alone rolling back the clock on --
deregulation.
"In the kind of proposals the [United States] is advocating at
the
GATS negotiations, a number of the options California is currently
considering -- including the creation of a new public utility -- to
resolve its energy crisis would likely constitute a violation of the
GATS," argued Ellen Gould, a Vancouver researcher who advises
labour unions on the impact of the WTO.
Again yesterday, California was operating under a Stage 3
power emergency due to low power supplies. But no new
mandatory blackouts have been ordered since last Thursday when
the lights went out for hundreds of thousands of homes and
businesses in northern and central California.
Governor Gray Davis worked through the weekend to find a
long-term solution to the crisis.
Ms. Gould said California's continuing struggles to fix its
five-
year-old deregulation regime should be a cautionary tale for all
WTO members, including Canada.
"Compelling utilities to open up their energy grids to
competitors
is what the U.S. trade representative wants enforced worldwide,"
she explained.
Former U.S. trade representative Charlene Barshefsky, the top
U.S. trade official, left the job on Saturday along with the rest of ex-

president Bill Clinton's administration.
The incoming administration of President George W. Bush, a
Republican and former Texas oil man, is expected to be even more
enthusiastic about energy deregulation. Last week, Mr. Bush said
he wants to name a special envoy to work out an as-yet-undefined
North American energy policy with Canada and Mexico. Mr. Bush
has also taken a dim view of price controls as a solution to the
crisis.
The United States is already actively enforcing similar
regulatory
guidelines following a 1999 WTO telecommunications accord, Ms.
Gould said.
Canada -- the largest energy exporter to the United States --
also wants energy included in any WTO services deal. It's unclear
where Ottawa stands on the U.S. regulatory guidelines.
Michael Kergin, Canadian ambassador to Washington, recently
welcomed Mr. Bush's overtures on creating a North American
energy policy. He has noted that it might be an opportunity to
review any remaining regulatory restrictions that Canadian energy
producers face selling into the U.S. market.
But regulators, politicians and consumers in Canada and across
the United States have watched in horror in recent weeks as the
power grid in California -- the most populous and one of the richest
U.S. states -- has come close to collapse.
In Alberta and elsewhere, governments are having second
thoughts about opening up their electricity markets to competition.
Last week, emergency electricity purchases from Canada,
backed by the credit of the California treasury, helped the state turn
the lights back on after two days of rotating blackouts.
Under California's widely copied 1996 deregulation law, the
state created a competitive electricity wholesale market, but capped
what costs the utilities could pass on to consumers. Utilities were
also forced to separate their generating business from their retail
and transmission operations.
As energy prices soared last year, California's