Environmentalism and the American Sociali

2000-05-08 Thread Ricardo Duchesne

I thought we all knew long ago about their materialism. Passages like 
the one cited below - and I know there are a few others - are in no way 
sufficient to ground a theory that would be called "Marxist Ecology". 
And we all know what the Soviets did to their environment with their 
megalomaniacal ventures.


 "Let us not, however, flatter ourselves overmuch on account of our human
 victories over nature. For each such victory nature takes its revenge on
 us. Each victory, it is true, in the first place brings about the results
 we expected, but in the second and third places it has quite different,
 unforeseen effects which only too often cancel the first. The people who,
 in Mesopotamia, Greece, Asia Minor and elsewhere, destroyed the forests to
 obtain cultivable land, never dreamed that by removing along with the
 forests the collecting centres and reservoirs of moisture they were laying
 the basis for the present forlorn state of those countries. When the
 Italians of the Alps used up the pine forests on the southern slopes, so
 carefully cherished on the northern slopes, they had no inkling that by
 doing so they were cutting at the roots of the dairy industry in their
 region; they had still less inkling that they were thereby depriving their
 mountain springs of water for the greater part of the year, and making it
 possible for them to pour still more furious torrents on the plains during
 the rainy seasons. Those who spread the potato in Europe were not aware
 that with these farinaceous tubers they were at the same time spreading
 scrofula. Thus at every step we are reminded that we by no means rule over
 nature like a conqueror over a foreign people, like someone standing
 outside nature -- but that we, with flesh, blood and brain, belong to
 nature, and exist in its midst, and that all our mastery of it consists in
 the fact that we have the advantage over all other creatures of being able
 to learn its laws and apply them correctly."
 
  
 
 Louis Proyect
 
 (The Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org)
 
 




Environmentalism and the American Sociali

2000-05-08 Thread Ricardo Duchesne

 
 No, you're not trying to tease, you're trying to provoke, otherwise 
 you would have ignored the post. There's enough reflexive 
 anti-Marxism in the world without having to read it on PEN-L too.
 
 Doug

Depending on the reader, he/she  may say am trying to enrage or 
infuriate, as you do, or just simply stimulate/induce/stir. And 
believe me the days of "anti-Marxism" are over; people are just 
indifferent to it, the more so when you keep repeating the same old 
dogmas about materialism and Darwinism.