Exhausted Palestinians

2004-02-06 Thread Marvin Gandall
Palestinian morale is at its lowest ebb and the impotent Palestinian
Authority is debating whether to dissolve itself, according to Harvey
Morris in todays Financial Times  all in keeping with the Sharon
governments game plan.

Palestinian academics and politicians told Morris that, 10 years after
its founding, the PA had reached a dead end  unable to garner
effective international support for a viable independent state, or,
alternatively, to lead a popular resistance movement to the Israeli
occupation, the latter task having fallen to the Islamist parties.

As Morris notes, the beleaguered Palestinians are at a crossroads:
either capitulate to the surrender terms on offer from the Sharon
government, or abandon the two-state solution in favour of an
anti-apartheid struggle for democratic and human rights in a single
binational state of Hebrew- and Arabic-speakers.

In an accompanying sidebar, however, Morris reports how Israel intends
to keep the Palestinians outside as a cheap labour pool while annexing
part of occupied territory containing the settlements through a series
of bypass tunnels and bridges augmenting the border wall.

Financial Times (sub only) article reproduced on
www.supportingfacts.com.

Sorry for any cross posting.


Re: Exhausted Palestinians

2004-02-06 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
This is just garbage poetry. It has nothing to do with exhaustion. It has to
do with whether you can win something, and how you can win it, i.e.
political strategy. Palestinian politicians thought they could substitute
Islam for politics, whereas they ought to have been splitting Jewish opinion
in an effective way, uniting with the Israeli Left and progressive liberal
opinion, against Judeo-Hitlerite fascism funded by American christianists.
The Western Left just adapts to bourgeois discussions about anti-semitism,
but it has nothing to do with the real politics of it.

Jurriaan


Re: Exhausted Palestinians

2004-02-06 Thread Marvin Gandall
Why so angry? I might not phrase it in quite the way you do and I don't
agree all Palestinian politicians are Islamists, but do you think
there's anything you say about the political strategy which should have
been followed that I would disagree with? And it has everything to do
with political exhaustion, like it or not. Anyone who has ever been on
the losing side in a labour or other social struggle, where the
relationship of forces is overwhemingly adverse, knows justice or
militancy doesn't always or mostly triumph over raw power. We're not
talking poetry here.

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 This is just garbage poetry. It has nothing to do with exhaustion. It
has to
 do with whether you can win something, and how you can win it, i.e.
 political strategy. Palestinian politicians thought they could
substitute
 Islam for politics, whereas they ought to have been splitting Jewish
opinion
 in an effective way, uniting with the Israeli Left and progressive
liberal
 opinion, against Judeo-Hitlerite fascism funded by American
christianists.
 The Western Left just adapts to bourgeois discussions about
anti-semitism,
 but it has nothing to do with the real politics of it.

 Jurriaan


Re: Exhausted Palestinians

2004-02-06 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 Why so angry?

Well perhaps I should watch my language. But I don't think it is a question
of exhaustion.

J.


Re: Exhausted Palestinians

2004-02-06 Thread Michael Perelman
cool it, with rhetoric such as garbage poetry.


On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 06:15:52PM +0100, Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
 This is just garbage poetry. It has nothing to do with exhaustion. It has to
 do with whether you can win something, and how you can win it, i.e.
 political strategy. Palestinian politicians thought they could substitute
 Islam for politics, whereas they ought to have been splitting Jewish opinion
 in an effective way, uniting with the Israeli Left and progressive liberal
 opinion, against Judeo-Hitlerite fascism funded by American christianists.
 The Western Left just adapts to bourgeois discussions about anti-semitism,
 but it has nothing to do with the real politics of it.

 Jurriaan

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Economics Department
California State University
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Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu