Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-13 Thread maxsaw

 Date:  Sat, 13 Dec 1997 11:02:05 +0800 (SST)

 The two books one by Amsden (1989) and Woo (1991) are interesting books.

FYI:  Steve Smith did a report for EPI a couple 
of years ago on the Asian industrial policy 
model.

MBS

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Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-13 Thread Anthony P D'Costa

The two books one by Amsden (1989) and Woo (1991) are interesting books.
Both discuss the role of the state (in Amsden the state as a latecomer and
borrower of technology and I should add institutions) and Woo the state as
a financier of economic transformation.  Amsden is less critical of the
Korean state because her main target is the neoclassical orthodoxy.  Korea
is a classic example of state-led development.  Woo is more critical of
the Korean state (even though she acknowledges the leading role the state
has played in transforming Korean society) because of the repressive
nature of the state until recently.  Both positions are appropriate on
their own terms.  Marty Hart-Landsberg will come closer to Woo in the
understanding of Korean development.


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On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:

 Perhaps someone could download the WSJ editorial from a few days ago by 
 Professor Meredith Cumings Woo of Northwestern University?  Her analysis
 seems to differ from Amsden's in important ways; for example, she seems to
 be quite a bit more critical of the  kind of state monopoly
 capitalism that South Korea had practiced. For example, Woo expressed 
 criticism  of the way certain  enterprises, in which bureaucrats had
 an important stake, had been subsidized simply on the basis of their size  
 at the expense of more profitable smaller  firms.  Perhaps there are
 limits to how long more powerful firms can monopolize credit or set their
 prices in such a way  as to  stave off the fall in the average rate of
 profit at the the expense of smaller capitals?
 
 rb
 
 






Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

Perhaps someone could download the WSJ editorial from a few days ago by 
Professor Meredith Cumings Woo of Northwestern University?  Her analysis
seems to differ from Amsden's in important ways; for example, she seems to
be quite a bit more critical of the  kind of state monopoly
capitalism that South Korea had practiced. For example, Woo expressed 
criticism  of the way certain  enterprises, in which bureaucrats had
an important stake, had been subsidized simply on the basis of their size  
at the expense of more profitable smaller  firms.  Perhaps there are
limits to how long more powerful firms can monopolize credit or set their
prices in such a way  as to  stave off the fall in the average rate of
profit at the the expense of smaller capitals?

rb






Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Doug Henwood

Rakesh Bhandari wrote:

Perhaps someone could download the WSJ editorial from a few days ago by
Professor Meredith Cumings Woo of Northwestern University?  Her analysis
seems to differ from Amsden's in important ways; for example, she seems to
be quite a bit more critical of the  kind of state monopoly
capitalism that South Korea had practiced. For example, Woo expressed
criticism  of the way certain  enterprises, in which bureaucrats had
an important stake, had been subsidized simply on the basis of their size
at the expense of more profitable smaller  firms.  Perhaps there are
limits to how long more powerful firms can monopolize credit or set their
prices in such a way  as to  stave off the fall in the average rate of
profit at the the expense of smaller capitals?

Ask and you shall receive. Amsden says it makes perfect sense for the state
to get out of mature industries like cars (though lifting import
restrictions could deal a sharp blow to the Korean auto industry), Korea
can only upgrade into high-tech with continued government industrial
policy.

Doug




The Wall Street Journal Interactive Edition -- December 8, 1997
Resources: Edit Page Features
How Industrial Policy Caused South Korea's Collapse

By MEREDITH WOO-CUMINGS

   Last week South Korea and the International Monetary Fund
   signed a bailout package worth at least $55 billion, the
   biggest in history. How did an industrial juggernaut like
   South Korea, the world's 11th-largest economy, end up in
   the lap of the IMF? And what does this portend for Korea
   The short answer is that the IMF has bitten off a
   lot more than it can chew, let alone digest.

   For decades, South Korea's politics masked its intrinsic
   economic instability. Korea emerged from a half-century
   and war utterly destitute. During the Cold
   War it occupied a prominent location between the U.S. and
   the Soviet Union, however, and from 1961 to 1987, South
   Korea parlayed its geopolitical position into economic
   advantage. Successive authoritarian leaders amassed huge
   amounts of foreign aid in the 1950s and then later,
   foreign loans, allocating them to coddled export
   industries.

Economic planners did this by fiat at first, setting low
financial prices (even negative real interest rates,
which prevailed throughout the 1970s) and allocating
credit through state banks. The banks in Korea became
policy instruments of what has been called "late
industrialization," emphasizing exports and development
of heavy industries related to security needs. This was a
strategy indulged by Washington for many years, because
it both promoted South Korea's security and turned that
country into a model of export-led government industrial
policy.

Over three decades the state created an impressive
constellation of mammoth industrial firms, known as
chaebol, a group of oligopolies heavily reliant on
government protection and assistance. Firms like Hyundai
and Samsung were always hugely leveraged, with very high
debt-equity ratios. Because they usually had lower profit
rates than small-sized firms, they always needed periodic
infusions of new cash. These firms could survive largely
because they provided floodtides of cash for the
country's politicians. This was their best insurance
against default on their debt, along with an additional
insurance that came from their sheer size and therefore
their importance to the domestic economy; analysts said
they were in a "state of permanent receivership."

After South Korea's long period of dictatorship ended in
1987, inquiries into the so-called slush fund scandals
determined that one former president, Chun Doo Hwan,
amassed more than $900 million in political kickbacks,
and another, Roh Tae Woo, about $600 million. These
enormous sums revealed to the Korean people the massive
patronage required to keep Korea Inc. running. By the
early 1980s, the system of chaebol support for the ruling
parties had become a kind of mad extortionism.

During the Cold War, the Korean financial system's
insecure footing was ignored or winked at, and Washington
always stood ready to help out in the event of trouble.
During the economic debacle of 1979-1980, for instance,
the U.S. acted swiftly to stabilize Korea, sending
signals to the international financial community that in
spite of the assassination of Park Chung Hee and the
Kwangju rebellion, Korea remained a stable investment
environment. U.S. leaders also pressured Japan to share
the burden of bailing out a Korean regime that was
grappling with economic troubles amid widespread popular
disaffection. In 1983, Tokyo gave Seoul some $4 billion
in loans--nearly 13% of Korea's net external debt, more
than 5% of its GNP, and almost one-fifth of its total
investment that year.

Thus, 

Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Dennis R Redmond

On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:

 I interviewed Amsden on my radio show yesterday...
[text cut]
 Tapes: $5/program (plus appropriate foreign postage), below. I'm sometimes
 a little slow in fulfilling orders, but they'll get out.

Sounds cool. One thought: why not branch out to broadcast TV as well?
Aren't there heaps of budding socialist videographers in the Big
Apple, or is there any form of community/university TV you could hook up
with? It couldn't be that expensive to do a basic talk-show kind of deal,
and it would be a terrific forum to spread the word and fight the
mass-media fire with fire. Hell, if it clicks you could even get funding
from the saurian sloths and reptilian foundations over at PBS. You could
call it "Wall Street Weekly" or something like that, and get ex-bond
traders from Morgan Stanley on the air to publicly flay the rhetorical
daylights out of Global Money. Or is it just too expensive to do this sort
of thing?

-- Dennis






Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Doug Henwood

Dennis R Redmond wrote:

Sounds cool. One thought: why not branch out to broadcast TV as well?
Aren't there heaps of budding socialist videographers in the Big
Apple, or is there any form of community/university TV you could hook up
with? It couldn't be that expensive to do a basic talk-show kind of deal,
and it would be a terrific forum to spread the word and fight the
mass-media fire with fire. Hell, if it clicks you could even get funding
from the saurian sloths and reptilian foundations over at PBS. You could
call it "Wall Street Weekly" or something like that, and get ex-bond
traders from Morgan Stanley on the air to publicly flay the rhetorical
daylights out of Global Money. Or is it just too expensive to do this sort
of thing?


TV is a much bigger deal. Radio is easy  cheap. As Twyla Tharp said, TV is
about two things, the rectangle  the dollar.

Doug







Re: Amsden on Korea

1997-12-12 Thread Dennis R Redmond

On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Martin Hart-Landsberg wrote:

 We should take confidence from the South Korean experience that there are
 effective alternatives to the free market.  But we should not be surprised
 to learn that state capitalist regulation of economic activity directed
 towards profit maximization, as in South Korea, produces contradictions
 and crisis.  The debate has to be opened up.  We need to be calling for
 radical restructuring of the South Korean political economy, for the
 creation of new forms of worker control and democratic social regulation
 of economic activity as part of a transition process which must include
 making the South Korean economy less export dependent, more domestically
 centered, etc.   Reunification is a part of this. 

Let's not forget the important and significant precedent of the European
Community and European Union here. Calls for new forms of worker control
are cool, but what this means in practice is creating a genuine welfare
state within Korea, as well as forcing rich countries like Japan to pay
subsidies and EU-style structural funds to assist the development of the
East Asian periphery. The Korea strategy worked for as long as there were
rich American consumers able to buy all those exports; today, effective
demand is being throttled everywhere, ergo the export model is in crisis.
The EU has avoided a lot of these problems by its generally social
democratic orientation towards investment (which emphasizes wages and
education and prevents really severe property and finance bubbles from
happening in the first place), by debt write-offs to
Eastern Europe, and by Central European subsidies to Spain, Italy, Ireland
and the like (you will note that the exchange rate crisis in Europe in
1993 was limited and relatively moderate, compared to the truly
epic Asian meltdown).

Most of all, Japan Inc. needs to get off its ass and start funding its
semi-peripheries, just like America started to do in 1950 vis-a-vis
Western Europe and Japan, via military Keynesianism. They have enough
money to erase the bad debts of their banks and get the economy going
again, it's just a question of political will. How about keiretsu
Keynesianism for the new millenium?

-- Dennis