Re: Re: Re: Current (heterodox) thinking oninterestrates?

2000-04-06 Thread Jim Devine


CB: In general, I think of bankers wanting high interest rates for the 
obvious reason that it is the price of money ( which they "sell" in 
loans). I think they are this much "in your face" at one level, but I can 
see that this simple profitmaking would be contradicted by other factors 
effecting them in the context of recessions that high interest rates induce.

again, they also borrow money, so they care about the _spread_.

CB: The Fed sets the rate at which it lends to the ??? What is the 
relationship between the Fed rate and the spread ?  Also, aren't most of 
the banks' revenues not from their borrowing ?

The Fed sets the discount rate, the rate at which it lends to banks. It has 
enough power over money markets to keep the "Fed Funds" rate on the target 
they choose. (That's the rate on loans between banks for very short 
periods.) The "spread" can refer to any gap between two interest rates. 
Here I'm talking about the gap between deposit rates (close to zero these 
days) and loan rates.

The spread can and does change over time. It mostly changes due to supply  
demand, specifically due to changes in expectations of future inflation, 
risks, etc.

Banks make profits from other things, like from running trust accounts, 
underwriting investments, etc. I don't know the percent of profits that 
comes from such "off-balance-sheet activities," but Mishkin says that the 
income coming from these has doubled as a percentage of assets since 1979.

CB: My contradiction on this is, don't monopolies foster inflationary 
pricing ?

Monopoly power encourages inflationary persistence, as when inflation 
continued in the face of the early 1970s recession (that's just the 
clearest case). However, the US economy has become much more competitive 
during the last 20 years.

Is this a contradiction between big banks and other big companies ?

This is a big question, so I'll avoid it.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Re: Re: Re: Current (heterodox) thinking oninterestrates?

2000-04-06 Thread Eugene Coyle



Jim Devine wrote:
Monopoly power encourages inflationary persistence,
as when inflation
continued in the face of the early 1970s recession (that's just the
clearest case). However, the US economy has become much more competitive
during the last 20 years.

Interesting contrast with the


Specter of one big company in our future?


By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

which Charles Brown just posted.

My casual impression is that the US economy has and is becoming more
concentrated. What's yours?

Banks have merged, electric companies are merging, gas companies have
merged with each other and are merging with the electircs. Oil, cars,
Pentagon favorites, etc. etc.

There is the cheap stuff from overseas weighing on prices, but domestically?
And of course the shake-out in dot.coms is just beginning.

Gene Coyle




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current (heterodox) thinking oninterestrates?

2000-04-06 Thread Jim Devine


My casual impression is that the US economy has and is becoming more 
concentrated.  What's yours?

it depends on one's time frame. Compared to the "good old daze" of the 
1950s  1960s, the US economy is currently less monopolistic, not only due 
to globalization but also deregulation of trucking, airplanes, etc., and 
anti-trust (ATT), along with some technical change.

But I think the long-term trend in the future is toward increased 
monopolization, as seen as the major world auto companies edge toward 
creating a world oligopoly.

Banks have merged, electric companies are merging, gas companies have 
merged with each other and are merging with the electircs.  Oil, cars, 
Pentagon favorites, etc. etc.

right, but you should realize that a lot of banks had local monopoly power 
before they merged with out-of-state banks, etc.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current (heterodox) thinking oninterestrates?

2000-04-06 Thread Eugene Coyle

The airlines are highly concentrated.  Deregulation caused a temporary dip in
concentration which has now been overcome.  They fix prices
oligopolistically.

Jim Devine wrote:

 My casual impression is that the US economy has and is becoming more
 concentrated.  What's yours?

 it depends on one's time frame. Compared to the "good old daze" of the
 1950s  1960s, the US economy is currently less monopolistic, not only due
 to globalization but also deregulation of trucking, airplanes, etc., and
 anti-trust (ATT), along with some technical change.

 But I think the long-term trend in the future is toward increased
 monopolization, as seen as the major world auto companies edge toward
 creating a world oligopoly.

 Banks have merged, electric companies are merging, gas companies have
 merged with each other and are merging with the electircs.  Oil, cars,
 Pentagon favorites, etc. etc.

 right, but you should realize that a lot of banks had local monopoly power
 before they merged with out-of-state banks, etc.

 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~jdevine