Re: The two Americas

2000-03-04 Thread Charles Brown



 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/00 10:53AM 

"This young boy appears not to have many advantages in life," said Arthur
A. Busch, the Genesee County prosecutor, who said the boy probably would
not be charged and was released today to an aunt.

this mollycoddling goes against the Spirit of America of these days! If we 
are to be Tough on Crime, shouldn't this alleged 6-year-old be tried as 
adult and warehoused in an adult prison where he can accumulate human capital?

-- Rudy G.

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CB: Hasn't mollycoddling been taken to new heights in the Diallo trial ? Call it a 
tragic mistake, let him cry in the court room , and let him go to shoot someone else, 
like the cops in New York.


- Learned Hand



Re: The two Americas

2000-03-03 Thread Jim Devine


"This young boy appears not to have many advantages in life," said Arthur
A. Busch, the Genesee County prosecutor, who said the boy probably would
not be charged and was released today to an aunt.

this mollycoddling goes against the Spirit of America of these days! If we 
are to be Tough on Crime, shouldn't this alleged 6-year-old be tried as 
adult and warehoused in an adult prison where he can accumulate human capital?

-- Rudy G.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~jdevine



Re: The two Americas

2000-03-03 Thread Timework Web


These two Americas only exist "anecdotally" (that is to say in
narratives of lived experience). Statistically, things have
never been better. Unemployment is at a 30 year low and inflation is under
control. One doesn't have to fudge the numbers. All one has to do is fudge
the conditions of life that are fictionally accounted for by the numbers.


"Peter Kiernan, a senior executive at the Goldman Sachs Group, attended an
Ivy League party last fall where one recent graduate boasted he would own a
fleet of personal airplanes by age 30. " 'I don't just want wealth,' " Mr.
Kiernan said the young man told him. " 'I want plane wealth.' "

"His father was in and out of prison. His mother, evicted from her own
home, sent him and his brother to live with an uncle in a dilapidated
house here, just north of Flint. There, he did not even have his own bed
and fell asleep in a place that neighbors say was filled with noise, drugs
and guns.


Tom Walker



Re: The two Americas II

2000-03-03 Thread Timework Web

from Dispatches by Michael Herr:

Page 2,

"At the end of my first week in country I met an information officer in
the headquarters of the 25th Division at Cu Chi who showed me on his map
and then from his chopper what they'd done to the Ho Bo Woods, the
vanished Ho Bo Woods taken off by giant Rome plows and chemicals and long,
slow fire, wasting hundreds of acres of cultivated plantation and wild
forest alike, 'denying the enemy valuable resources and cover.'

"It had been part of his job for nearly a year now to tell people about
that operation; correspondents, touring congressmen, movie stars,
corporation presidents, staff officers from half the armies in the world,
and he still couldn't get over it. It seemed to be keeping him young, his
enthusiasm made you feel that even the letters he wrote home to his wife
were full of it, it really showed what you could do if you had the
know-how and the hardware. And if in the months following that operation
incidences of enemy activity in the larger area of War Zone C had
increased "significantly," and American losses had doubled and then
doubled again, none of it was happening in any damn Ho Bo Woods, you'd
better believe it. . . ."

Page 223,

"I keep thinking about all the kids who got wiped out by seventeen years
of war movies before coming to Vietnam to get wiped out for good. You
don't know what a media freak is until you've seen the way a few of those
grunts would run around during a fight when they knew that there was a
television crew nearby; they were actually making war movies in their
heads, doing little guts-and-glory Leatherneck tap dances under fire,
getting their pimples shot off for the networks. They were insane, but the
war hadn't done that to them."

Page 229,

"The spokesmen spoke in words that had no currency left as words,
sentences with no hope of meaning in the sane world, and if much of it was
sharply queried by the press, all of it got quoted. . . .  And after
enough years of that, so many that it seemed to have been going on
forever, you got to a point where you could sit there in the evening and
listen to the man say that American casualties for the week had reached a
six-week low, only eighty GI's had died in combat, and you'd feel like
you'd just gotten a bargain."


Tom Walker