[Bug 1781557] Upgrade perl-CPANPLUS to 0.9904

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1781557

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

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 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2020-07-09 04:57:01




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[Bug 1690193] perl-CPAN-2.26 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1690193

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
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Last Closed||2020-07-09 04:56:43




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[Bug 1763372] perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp-97 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1763372

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2020-07-09 04:49:53




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[Bug 1751896] perl-Verilog-Perl-3.468 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1751896

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

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 Status|MODIFIED|CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2020-07-09 04:43:30




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[Bug 1854078] perl-Parse-CPAN-Packages required in EPEL 8

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854078

Fedora Update System  changed:

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 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-b48be8a4ba has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 testing
repository.

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https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-b48be8a4ba

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[Bug 1854720] perl-Archive-Peek required in EPEL 8

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854720

Fedora Update System  changed:

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 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-283ef67e51 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 testing
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[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854753



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-87dd78b491 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 testing
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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-87dd78b491 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 testing
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[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-87dd78b491 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 testing
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[Bug 1850197] abi-compliance-checker fails to install

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1850197

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2020-07-09 01:18:20



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-3f4afd3e7c has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 stable
repository.
If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.


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[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752

Fedora Update System  changed:

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 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-1f18f358d0 has been pushed to the Fedora 31 testing repository.
In short time you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754

Fedora Update System  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-1f18f358d0 has been pushed to the Fedora 31 testing repository.
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`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
--advisory=FEDORA-2020-1f18f358d0`
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https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-1f18f358d0

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[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854753

Fedora Update System  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System  ---
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[Bug 1854078] perl-Parse-CPAN-Packages required in EPEL 8

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854078

Fedora Update System  changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-b48be8a4ba has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-b48be8a4ba


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Perl 7 in Fedora

[Petr Pisar]

Hello packagers,

have you noticed an announcement about Perl 7

on a Perl5 Porters list? Saywer X presented an idea that now, when Perl 6 is
called Raku, Perl 5 can resume using the higher numbers and that the next Perl
will be Perl 7.

That part of the announcement wouldn't be exciting at all if there wasn't
the second part that Perl since now will be more aggressive in adding new
features and removing old ones and that Perl will enable all the new
stabilized features by default (without "use v7;").

To comfort conservative users there was a third part that Perl 5 will move
into a maintance mode and it will be supported for the next 5 (up to 10)
years.

That second part provoked many reactions. Especially about a feasibility of
such undertaking. The third part raised questions about compatibility with
a third-party code, especially CPAN, and a coexistence of two Perls on one
system.

A similarity with Python upgrading from version 2 to version 3 is extensive.
Because I observered the Python move in Fedora from a close proximity, I can
tell you that I do not want to experience it again. (It took many years,
cost at least 5 full-time Red Hat employes, and meant significant overhaul in
packaging.)

Then Sawyer X sent an update

that addressed the people's reactions. It introduced a mandatory Perl API
versioning ("use v5", "use v7", "use v8") in every Perl script, a prospect
that each perl release will support at most 3 APIs (old, current, future) and
that the interpreter executable will be called /usr/bin/perl7 while
/usr/bin/perl will be kept unused.

In the mean time, core-p7 branch was revelead in the Perl git tree that
started migrating Perl 5 sources to Perl 7 version and introduced "use p5" and
"use p7"

for enforcing Perl 5 and Perl 7 compatibility mode in the interpreter.

Yesterday Perl 5.33.0

was released with an unclear prospect whether it will lead to 5.34 or 7.0. So
far it seems it will contain changes from core-p7 branch that assure
core modules compatibility among both Perl 5 and Perl 7 mode.


My question four you is what and how you want to package in Fedora.

In my humble opinion, Perl 7 interpreter won't diverge from Perl 5 too far in
the next year (or two years) and many prominent CPAN distributions will be
promptly updated to preserve compatibility with both of the languages (it
actually already happens, see perl-Socket-2.030). Thus I'm for upgrading
Perl 5 to Perl 7 as soon as possible in Fedora. That means when stable Perl 7 is
released and keep it up-to-date and all Perl packages rebuilt against it as we
were used with Perl 5.

I can imagine that some people will insist of having Perl 5 available next to
Perl 7. I can package it either as a module or as a normal package (but keep in
mind that Perl would conflict on /usr/bin scripts and manual pages; we could
strip the manuals and rename the scripts).

But I'm not sure it's worth of repackaging all the CPAN distributions we have
twice for both Perls. Either as a subpackage of one spec file. (Few years back
I proposed few macros  that
would make the packaging agnostic of perl version and they were rejected as
unneeded. I don't know whether the mood has has changed since then.) Or
as a completely independend source packages (that would had the benefit that
a breakage in one language would not affect the other language). There is still
a possibility of using modularity, but that does not bring parallel
installability and recently Fedora banned default streams which makes all
modules a second-class citizen.

So what do you want? Will you be fine with only having the latest Perl (i.e.
Perl 7 next year)? 

-- Petr


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[Bug 1854078] perl-Parse-CPAN-Packages required in EPEL 8

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854078



--- Comment #1 from Jitka Plesnikova  ---
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/26919
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/26920


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[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752



--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-87dd78b491 has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

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--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-87dd78b491 has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
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[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

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--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-87dd78b491 has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-1f18f358d0 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 31.
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[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

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--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-1f18f358d0 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 31.
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[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-1f18f358d0 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 31.
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[Bug 1854720] perl-Archive-Peek required in EPEL 8

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854720

Fedora Update System  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-283ef67e51 has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
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[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854753



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-43a6a0fdca has been submitted as an update to Fedora 32.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-43a6a0fdca


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[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-43a6a0fdca has been submitted as an update to Fedora 32.
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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-43a6a0fdca has been submitted as an update to Fedora 32.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-43a6a0fdca


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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||1854753





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[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available
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[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||1854753





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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854753
[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available
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[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available

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Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED
 Depends On||1854754, 1854752
   Fixed In Version||perl-Sereal-4.015-1.fc33



--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar  ---
An enhancement release suitable for all Fedoras and EPEL ≥ 8.



Referenced Bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752
[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754
[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available
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[Bug 1854753] perl-Sereal-4.015 is available

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Petr Pisar  changed:

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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks|1854752 |





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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752
[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available
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[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

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Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends On|1854754 |
   Fixed In Version||perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015-1
   ||.fc33



--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar  ---
An enhancement release release suitable for all Fedoras and EPEL ≥ 8.



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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754
[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available
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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Fixed In Version||perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015-1
   ||.fc33



--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar  ---
An enhancement release suitable for all Fedoras and EPEL ≥ 8.


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[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
 CC|jples...@redhat.com,|
   |ppi...@redhat.com   |
 Depends On||1854754
   Doc Type|--- |If docs needed, set a value





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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754
[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available
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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||1854752





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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752
[Bug 1854752] perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available
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[Bug 1854754] perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

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Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
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[Bug 1854753] New: perl-Sereal-4.015 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854753

Bug ID: 1854753
   Summary: perl-Sereal-4.015 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Sereal
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: de...@fateyev.com, perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
ppi...@redhat.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 4.015
Current version/release in rawhide: 4.011-1.fc32
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Sereal/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/7605/


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[Bug 1854752] New: perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854752

Bug ID: 1854752
   Summary: perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.015 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Sereal-Encoder
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: de...@fateyev.com, jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, ppi...@redhat.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 4.015
Current version/release in rawhide: 4.011-1.fc32
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Sereal-Encoder/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/8065/


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[Bug 1854754] New: perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854754

Bug ID: 1854754
   Summary: perl-Sereal-Decoder-4.015 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Sereal-Decoder
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: de...@fateyev.com, jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, ppi...@redhat.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 4.015
Current version/release in rawhide: 4.011-1.fc32
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Sereal-Decoder/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/8066/


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[Bug 1854720] perl-Archive-Peek required in EPEL 8

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854720

Paul Howarth  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED



--- Comment #1 from Paul Howarth  ---
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/26899
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/26900


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[Bug 1854078] perl-Parse-CPAN-Packages required in EPEL 8

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1854078

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Doc Type|--- |If docs needed, set a value




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