Re: Transliteration operator(tr//)on EBCDIC platform

2005-09-19 Thread SADAHIRO Tomoyuki

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:31:43 +0530, Sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 Hi Sadahiro
 
 Having incorporated the changes in the doop.c and op.c
 I strangely get lots of failures and here are the test results. Seems
 like the first approach itself fails on tr// and there will certainly
 more failures when we run the entire test suite which uses these
 functions.
In the second approach, the change seems to be
 affecting only tr// . Please let me know your suggestions for the
 changes which I can apply in S_scan_const() and see if it works.
 
 regards
 Sastry

Here it is.
All newer codes in toke.t are enclosed between #ifdef EBCDIC
and #endif since they are redundant for ASCII platform.
And I add some tests to tr.t.

Regards,
SADAHIRO Tomoyuki

! toke.t t/op/tr.t

diff -ur [EMAIL PROTECTED]/t/op/tr.t [EMAIL PROTECTED]/t/op/tr.t
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/t/op/tr.t Thu Aug 18 18:27:25 2005
+++ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/t/op/tr.t Sun Sep 18 19:59:13 2005
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 require './test.pl';
 }
 
-plan tests = 100;
+plan tests = 120;
 
 my $Is_EBCDIC = (ord('i') == 0x89  ord('J') == 0xd1);
 
@@ -259,7 +259,6 @@
 
 # UTF8 range tests from Inaba Hiroto
 
-# Not working in EBCDIC as of 12674.
 ($a = v300.196.172.302.197.172) =~ tr/\x{12c}-\x{130}/\xc0-\xc4/;
 is($a, v192.196.172.194.197.172,'UTF range');
 
@@ -272,6 +271,15 @@
 ($a = \x{0100}) =~ tr/\x00-\x{100}/X/;
 is($a, X);
 
+($a = \x{0100}) =~ tr/\x00-\x{101}/X/;
+is($a, X);
+
+($a = \x{0100}\x{0101}) =~ tr/\x00-\x{102}/X/;
+is($a, XX);
+
+($a = \x{0101}\x{0102}) =~ tr/\x00-\x{103}/X/;
+is($a, XX);
+
 ($a = \x{0100}) =~ tr/\x{}-\x{00ff}/X/c;
 is($a, X);
 
@@ -303,8 +311,16 @@
 is($c, 8);
 is($a, );
 
+$c = ($a = \x89\x8a\x8b\x8c\x8d\x8f\x90\x91) =~ tr/\x{1000}\x89-\x91/X/;
+is($c, 8);
+is($a, );
+
+$c = ($a = \xc9\xca\xcb\xcc\xcd\xcf\xd0\xd1) =~ tr/\x{1000}\xc9-\xd1/X/;
+is($c, 8);
+is($a, );
+
 SKIP: {
-skip not EBCDIC, 4 unless $Is_EBCDIC;
+skip not EBCDIC, 12 unless $Is_EBCDIC;
 
 $c = ($a = \x89\x8a\x8b\x8c\x8d\x8f\x90\x91) =~ tr/i-j/X/;
 is($c, 2);
@@ -313,7 +329,38 @@
 $c = ($a = \xc9\xca\xcb\xcc\xcd\xcf\xd0\xd1) =~ tr/I-J/X/;
 is($c, 2);
 is($a, X\xca\xcb\xcc\xcd\xcf\xd0X);
+
+$c = ($a = \x89\x8a\x8b\x8c\x8d\x8f\x90\x91) =~ tr/\x{1000}i-j/X/;
+is($c, 2);
+is($a, X\x8a\x8b\x8c\x8d\x8f\x90X);
+
+$c = ($a = \xc9\xca\xcb\xcc\xcd\xcf\xd0\xd1) =~ tr/\x{1000}I-J/X/;
+is($c, 2);
+is($a, X\xca\xcb\xcc\xcd\xcf\xd0X);
+
+$c = ($a = \x89\x8a\x8b\x8c\x8d\x8f\x90\x91) =~ tr/i-j\x{1000}/X/;
+is($c, 2);
+is($a, X\x8a\x8b\x8c\x8d\x8f\x90X);
+
+$c = ($a = \xc9\xca\xcb\xcc\xcd\xcf\xd0\xd1) =~ tr/I-J\x{1000}/X/;
+is($c, 2);
+is($a, X\xca\xcb\xcc\xcd\xcf\xd0X);
 }
+
+($a = \xfc\xfd\xfe\xff) =~ tr/\x00-\xff/X/;
+is($a, );
+
+($a = \xfc\xfd\xfe\xff) =~ tr/\x{1000}\x00-\xff/X/;
+is($a, );
+
+($a = \xfc\xfd\xfe\xff\x{100}) =~ tr/\x{1000}\x00-\x{100}/X/;
+is($a, X);
+
+($a = \xfc\xfd\xfe\xff\x{100}) =~ tr/\x00-\x{200}/X/;
+is($a, X);
+
+($a = \xfc\xfd\xfe\xff\x{100}) =~ tr/\x{1000}\x00-\xff/X/c;
+is($a, \xfc\xfd\xfe\xffX);
 
 ($a = \x{100}) =~ tr/\x00-\xff/X/c;
 is(ord($a), ord(X));
diff -ur [EMAIL PROTECTED]/toke.c [EMAIL PROTECTED]/toke.c
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/toke.cWed Sep 14 17:40:19 2005
+++ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/toke.cMon Sep 19 12:05:41 2005
@@ -1407,6 +1407,7 @@
 UV uv;
 #ifdef EBCDIC
 UV literal_endpoint = 0;
+bool native_range = TRUE; /* turned to FALSE if the first endpoint is 
Unicode */
 #endif
 
 const char *leaveit =  /* set of acceptably-backslashed characters */
@@ -1429,8 +1430,14 @@
I32 i;  /* current expanded character */
I32 min;/* first character in range */
I32 max;/* last character in range */
-
-   if (has_utf8) {
+#ifdef EBCDIC
+   UV  uvmax = 0;  /* last character above byte */
+#endif
+   if (has_utf8
+#ifdef EBCDIC
+!native_range
+#endif
+   ) {
char * const c = (char*)utf8_hop((U8*)d, -1);
char *e = d++;
while (e--  c)
@@ -1443,12 +1450,41 @@
}
 
i = d - SvPVX_const(sv);/* remember current 
offset */
+#ifdef EBCDIC
+   SvGROW(sv, SvLEN(sv) + (has_utf8
+   ? (512 - UTF_CONTINUATION_MARK + UNISKIP(0x100))
+   : 256));
+   /* how many two-byte within 0..255: 128 in UTF-8, 96 in 
UTF-8-mod */
+#else
SvGROW(sv, SvLEN(sv) + 256);/* never more than 256 chars in 
a range */
+#endif
d = SvPVX(sv) + i;  /* refresh d after realloc */
-   d -= 2; /* eat the first char and the - 
*/
 
+#ifdef EBCDIC
+   if (has_utf8) {
+   

[perl #37110] compiling perl 5.8.7 for win32 using free microsoft tools

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Hay via RT
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mon Sep 12 04:13:08 2005]:
 I was not aware that the Windows® Server 2003 SP1 Platform SDK can be
 used with WinXP (SP2). I have unfortunately not seen the remark on the
 downloadpage:
 
 This edition of the SDK replaces the previous SDKs for Windows XP SP2
 and Windows Server 2003 and can be used to develop applications for
 those platforms.
 
 I think it would be a good idea to remove the link to PSDK for Win
 XPSP2
 within the README.win32 file, because this PSDK seems really not to
 work
 and for Win XPSP2 mislead that this PSDK is the one and only
 suitable
 for WinXP (SP2).

OK, I'll do something about updating those links.


 
 ---
 
 The Windows® Server 2003 SP1 PSDK indeed provides the src files
 within
 the CORE component. Unfortunately the compilation of perl 5.8.7 aborts
 because of another missing file: delayimp.lib

Ah, you've missed a bit in the instructions.  Right at the end of the
section on building with the free toolkit it says:

You will need to edit that file to comment-out CCTYPE = MSVC60 (since
that enables delay-loading of the Winsock DLL which the free toolkit
does not support)

If you comment-out CCTYPE = MSVC60 like it says then delayimp.lib will
no longer be required.

(I don't know of anything free that provides this file, hence the
instruction to simply avoid using it at all.)

- Steve


[perl #37199] File::Basename Docs

2005-09-19 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by  Smylers 
# Please include the string:  [perl #37199]
# in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. 
# URL: https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=37199 


This is a bug report for perl from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
generated with the help of perlbug 1.35 running under perl v5.8.7.


-
[Please enter your report here]

The File::Basename docs have a mangled NAME section.  I suspect this is
why they aren't hyperlinked on Cpan Search:

  http://search.cpan.org/~nwclark/perl-5.8.7/

I have a patch which fixes this, making the NAME section follow the
standard pattern (name of the module, hyphen, short description of the
module as a whole) and moving the list of functions that was in the NAME
section into the DESCRIPTION.

While I was there I also tidied up a few other things:

* stated that all the functions are exported by default

* got rid of the =head1 EXAMPLES that was in the middle of the =over
  list of functions; the examples only apply to the =item in the list
  that immediately proceeds them, but having an =head1 there makes it
  look like the list of functions has ended, and it can be hard to spot
  that the list again starts after the examples

* inserted =head1 FUNCTIONS to distinguish the quick list of the
  functions' descriptions in DESCRIPTION from the detail of each
  function

Cheers.

Smylers

[Please do not change anything below this line]
-
---
Flags:
category=docs
severity=low
---
Site configuration information for perl v5.8.7:

Configured by ngregory at Wed Jul  6 17:34:09 UTC 2005.

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 7) configuration:
  Platform:
osname=freebsd, osvers=5.4-release, archname=i386-freebsd-64int
uname='freebsd cp01.host.donhost.co.uk 5.4-release freebsd 5.4-release #0: 
sun may 8 10:21:06 utc 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:usrobjusrsrcsysgeneric i386 '
config_args='-sde -Dprefix=/usr/local 
-Darchlib=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/mach -Dprivlib=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7 
-Dman3dir=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/perl/man/man3 
-Dman1dir=/usr/local/man/man1 
-Dsitearch=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/mach 
-Dsitelib=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 -Dscriptdir=/usr/local/bin 
-Dsiteman3dir=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/man/man3 
-Dsiteman1dir=/usr/local/man/man1 -Ui_malloc -Ui_iconv -Uinstallusrbinperl 
-Dcc=cc -Duseshrplib 
-Dccflags=-DAPPLLIB_EXP=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/BSDPAN -Doptimize=-O -pipe 
 -Ud_dosuid -Ui_gdbm -Dusethreads=n -Dusemymalloc=y -Duse64bitint'
hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef 
usemultiplicity=undef
useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
use64bitint=define use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usemymalloc=y, bincompat5005=undef
  Compiler:
cc='cc', ccflags ='-DAPPLLIB_EXP=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/BSDPAN 
-DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe 
-I/usr/local/include',
optimize='-O -pipe ',
cppflags='-DAPPLLIB_EXP=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/BSDPAN -DHAS_FPSETMASK 
-DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include'
ccversion='', gccversion='3.4.2 [FreeBSD] 20040728', gccosandvers=''
intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=12345678
d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
ivtype='long long', ivsize=8, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', 
lseeksize=8
alignbytes=4, prototype=define
  Linker and Libraries:
ld='cc', ldflags ='-pthread -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib'
libpth=/usr/lib /usr/local/lib
libs=-lm -lcrypt -lutil
perllibs=-lm -lcrypt -lutil
libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so
gnulibc_version=''
  Dynamic Linking:
dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='  
-Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/mach/CORE'
cccdlflags='-DPIC -fPIC', lddlflags='-shared  -L/usr/local/lib'

Locally applied patches:
defined-or

---
@INC for perl v5.8.7:
/home/smyers/lib/perl5/site_perl
/home/smyers/lib/perl5
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/mach
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/BSDPAN
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/mach
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7
.

---
Environment for perl v5.8.7:
HOME=/home/smyers
LANG=en_GB.ISO8859-15
LANGUAGE (unset)
LC_COLLATE=C
LD_LIBRARY_PATH (unset)
LOGDIR (unset)

PATH=/home/smyers/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/controlpanel/bin:/usr/local/apache/bin
PERL5LIB=/home/smyers/lib/perl5/site_perl:/home/smyers/lib/perl5
PERL_BADLANG (unset)
SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash



Re: [perl #37199] [PATCH] File::Basename Docs

2005-09-19 Thread Smylers
Please find attached the patch I alluded to in the perlbug submission.

Smylers
-- 
May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a
difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot be done.


File-Basename_doc.patch
Description: Binary data


Re: [perl #37190] -DT -e 'use warnings;' crashes

2005-09-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Nicholas Clark (via RT) wrote:
 Using -DT with use warnings; goes bang on OS X. I was able to get out of
 memory failures on FreeBSD, but everything works on x86/Linux, at least for
 me. I guess x86/Linux is just lucky - this seems to be a real bug, although
 quite where, I'm not sure.
 
 Starting gdb as gdb --args ./perl -Ilib -DT -e 'use warnings;'
 and running the program gives:

Moreover, this makes valgrind crash, giving this warning before hanging
and eating all CPU :

==13290== Warning: set address range perms: large range 171544052, a 0, v 1



Re: [perl #37102] Additional information

2005-09-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
On 9/18/05, Geoff Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem with regular expressions getting clobbered only occurs while
 running Perl with the -d (debug) option. I believe it is the sub()
 method of the DB.pm module that contains the regular expression that
 clobbers the running script's regular expression as described in my bug
 report.

That's probable. In this case, other Devel:: modules might be affected
if they use regular expressions this way. The proper fix would be
somehow (hand waving follows) to save and restore the regexp context
when entering a DB:: routine.


Re: t/io/fs.t triply linked issue - Test does not match comments

2005-09-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
On 9/19/05, John E. Malmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I enable hard links on VMS, it exposed that the t/io/fs.t is not
 testing what the comments indicate that it is testing.
 
 The correct test would be to see if the $mode of the third link matched
 the $mode for the original file.
 
 What the test is actually doing is testing to see if the umask function
 is behaving according to the UNIX definition.
 
 With VMS, setting the umask and related behaviors into the UNIX mode is
 not the default behavior.
 
 I need to make a change in this routine to get it to pass on VMS when
 hard links support is built in to Perl, it is skipped otherwise.
 
 One option is to fix the test to actually test what it claims to be
 testing.  This could affect other platforms, but really should not.

I'd like to have a patch for that.

 Now should the test be testing for a UNIX compliant umask()?  And since
 VMS by default is not set to UNIX compliant, it would need to know when
 that pass would be expected to pass, or to when to put VMS into that mode.

And, moreover, and optionnally, we could add a new test for testing
umask() (there's no such test, at a first glance.) But of course it
would make sense to skip it on non-UNIX platforms, including VMS.


Re: bleadperl DProf.xs:140: warning: `unused' attribute ignored

2005-09-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
 bleadperl is getting:
 DProf.xs:140: warning: `unused' attribute ignored
 
 The following fixes it; I thought about defining a pTHX_bare in
 perl.h that leaves off the register and PERL_UNUSED_DECL from pTHX,
 but decided there really wasn't going to be a lot of other demand
 for it.  The aTHX would have worked as is, but I thought it better
 to make both mentions just my_perl.
 
 --- p/ext/Devel/DProf/DProf.xs.orig 2005-07-08 10:03:01.0 -0700
 +++ p/ext/Devel/DProf/DProf.xs  2005-09-18 18:13:43.028478400 -0700

Thanks, applied as change #25486.


Re: [perl #37190] -DT -e 'use warnings;' crashes

2005-09-19 Thread Dave Mitchell
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 11:31:11AM -0700, Nicholas Clark wrote:
 Using -DT with use warnings; goes bang on OS X. I was able to get out of
 memory failures on FreeBSD, but everything works on x86/Linux, at least for
 me. I guess x86/Linux is just lucky - this seems to be a real bug, although
 quite where, I'm not sure.

It looks like its crashing in code I wrote, so its probably my fault.
If you don't mind waiting for a couple of weeks, I'll try to have a look
somretime.

-- 
Thank God I'm an atheist.


[perl #37199] File::Basename Docs

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Hay via RT
Thanks for your bug report and patch.

However, the mangled NAME section has already been fixed in the current
development version of Perl, along with a great many other improvements
to File::Basename and its documentation.

The latest version can be found at the following URL:
http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse?file=lib%2FFile%2FBasename.pmrev=



Re: RFC - VMS behavior changes proposal

2005-09-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
On 9/18/05, John E. Malmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking for comments on a couple of VMS specific behavior issues.
 
 Unless there are some objections, I would like to make these changes:

They all seem sensible to me. (Although I don't understand the 2nd
very well, but I trust the experts:)

 1. Fix usage of HOME and a few other environment variables used inside
 of the Perl binary.
 
 Perl is assuming that the HOME and possibly some other environment
 variables are always in UNIX format early in the startup of the
 interpreter.  When the CRTL is in UNIX mode, then this works, in the
 CRTL default mode the resulting file is an illegal filename from the
 combination of a VMS device and directory concatenated to a UNIX path or
 file.  This is apparently stored and then used every time that Perl
 needs to look up certain types of files.
 
 I would like to make the change so that in the startup, environment
 variables like HOME that Perl expects to be in UNIX format are in UNIX
 format as I find them.  These tend to get exposed while I am debugging
 other issue.
 
 
 2. If the VMS process parse style is set to extended, then Perl will
 default to having the C features for EFS character sets and case
 preserved behavior enabled, once those modes are working.
 
 
 3. If a way can be found to detect that Perl is running under the GNV
 bash shell in the LIB$INITIALIZE section, which means %ENV{SHELL} =
 bash, for Perl to default for the CRTL running UNIX filename report
 mode.  And eventually assume that the GNV bash shell will be handling
 spawned commands.
 
 -John
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Personal Opinion Only



Smoke [5.8.7] 25494 FAIL(m) MSWin32 WinXP/.Net SP2 (x86/2 cpu)

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Hay
Automated smoke report for 5.8.7 patch 25494
Mugwump.uk.radan.com:  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz(~3391 MHz) (x86/2 cpu)
onMSWin32 - WinXP/.Net SP2
using ? unknown cc version 
smoketime 2 minutes 46 seconds (average 8.300 seconds)

Summary: FAIL(m)

O = OK  F = Failure(s), extended report at the bottom
X = Failure(s) under TEST but not under harness
? = still running or test results not (yet) available
Build failures during:   - = unknown or N/A
c = Configure, m = make, M = make (after miniperl), t = make test-prep

   25494 Configuration (common) -DINST_TOP=$(INST_DRV)\Smoke\doesntexist
--- -
m m 
m m -Dusemymalloc
m m -Duselargefiles
m m -Duselargefiles -Dusemymalloc
m m -Duseithreads -Uuseimpsys
m m -Duseithreads -Uuseimpsys -Dusemymalloc
m m -Duseithreads -Uuseimpsys -Duselargefiles
m m -Duseithreads -Uuseimpsys -Duselargefiles -Dusemymalloc
m m -Duseithreads
m m -Duseithreads -Duselargefiles
| +- -DDEBUGGING
+--- no debugging

Locally applied patches:
MAINT24637

Compiler messages(MSWin32):
..\dump.c(68) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\dump.c(68) : warning C4024: 'Perl_dump_sub' : different types for formal and 
actual parameter 2
..\dump.c(70) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\dump.c(70) : warning C4024: 'Perl_dump_form' : different types for formal 
and actual parameter 2
..\dump.c(73) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\dump.c(73) : warning C4024: 'Perl_dump_packsubs' : different types for 
formal and actual parameter 2
..\dump.c(303) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\dump.c(303) : warning C4024: 'Perl_pv_display' : different types for formal 
and actual parameter 3
..\dump.c(304) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\dump.c(304) : warning C4024: 'Perl_pv_display' : different types for formal 
and actual parameter 3
..\dump.c(1184) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\dump.c(1184) : warning C4024: 'Perl_pv_display' : different types for formal 
and actual parameter 3
..\dump.c(1185) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\dump.c(1185) : warning C4024: 'Perl_pv_display' : different types for formal 
and actual parameter 3
..\dump.c(1323) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\dump.c(1323) : warning C4024: 'Perl_pv_display' : different types for formal 
and actual parameter 3
..\gv.c(736) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\gv.c(736) : warning C4024: 'Perl_is_utf8_idcont' : different types for 
formal and actual parameter 2
..\gv.c(736) : warning C4024: 'Perl_is_utf8_digit' : different types for formal 
and actual parameter 2
..\locale.c(535) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\locale.c(535) : warning C4024: 'Perl_parse_unicode_opts' : different types 
for formal and actual parameter 2
..\mg.c(1771) : error C2275: 'STRLEN' : illegal use of this type as an 
expression
..\mg.c(1771) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'n_a'
..\mg.c(1771) : error C2065: 'n_a' : undeclared identifier
..\mg.c(2102) : warning C4090: 'function' : different 'const' qualifiers
..\mg.c(2102) : warning C4024: 'Perl_get_debug_opts_flags' : different types 
for formal and actual parameter 2

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Re: Lots of warnings building [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-09-19 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Nicholas Clark wrote:

 I don't think that glibc has clean enough headers to allow perl to compile
 with -ansi -pedantic on Linux - I was doing it on FreeBSD, which does.
 
 So now I want
 
   valgrind
   dtrace
   gdb that works with threads
   *and*
   clean system headers
 
 all on the same platform. Is this too much to ask?
 
 (What are the system headers like on Solaris x86? Is anyone porting valgrind
 to it? This seems like the path of least resistance)

I don't know about the x86 version, but at least in Solaris 8/SPARC, the 
system headers won't work with -ansi -pedantic.  I'd be surprised if 
things were any different on Solaris 10/x86.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] on cygwin looks pretty good

2005-09-19 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
I see Nicholas Clark has been hard at work integrating patches into
perl5.8.x.  Trying a build on cygwin at patch 25494 passes all tests
except for op/layers.t, which should be fixed once 24764 is
integrated.

It would be nice if the version number could be bumped to 5.8.8 soon;
I inadvertently installed over my 5.8.7 :)


Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on cygwin looks pretty good

2005-09-19 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:45:33PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:

 I see Nicholas Clark has been hard at work integrating patches into
 perl5.8.x.  Trying a build on cygwin at patch 25494 passes all tests
 except for op/layers.t, which should be fixed once 24764 is
 integrated.

Ooh. Thanks for testing this. I see from Steve Hay's smoke that I broke
Win32. But I've not yet worked out why/how to fix it.

 It would be nice if the version number could be bumped to 5.8.8 soon;
 I inadvertently installed over my 5.8.7 :)

Until such time as someone figures out how to make maint type releases
highly visible in the version number (or at least the -v output) I intend
to continue refraining from bumping the version number until the first
release candidate. It's something I've had no inspiration for.

It's the first task mentioned in the TODO for the category
Tasks that need a little C knowledge

http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse?file=pod%2Fperltodo.podrev=

(been moderately hard at work reordering the TODO to put the easier things
earlier)

Nicholas Clark


Problems building 64-bit Perl 5.8.7 on AIX 5.2

2005-09-19 Thread Alan Olsen
I am trying to build Perl 5.8.7 on AIX 5.2.

I can build Perl as long as I do not define use 64-bit all.  If I try and
build a version with full 64-bit support I get the following error somewhere
down in the compile:

  CCCMD =
 cc_r -DPERL_CORE -c -D_ALL_SOURCE -D_ANSI_C_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE -qmaxmem
=-1 -qnoansialias -DUSE_NATIVE_DLOPEN -DNEED_PTHREAD_INIT -I/usr/local/inclu
de -q64 -DUSE_64_BIT_ALL -q64 -O
cc_r -brtl -bdynamic -bmaxdata:0x8000 -L/usr/local/lib -q64 -b64 -o
miniperl_nonshr miniperlmain.o \
opmini.o
libperl_nonshr.a -lbind -lnsl -ldl -lld -lm -lcrypt -lpthreads -lc -lbsd
ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .flock
ld: 0711-345 Use the -bloadmap or -bnoquiet option to obtain more
information.
make: *** [miniperl_nonshr] Error 8

Any idea what is going on here?  I am building with threads, but building
without threads gives the same error.

I am using the IBM compiler.  Attempting to build Perl with GCC gives an
error -b must be first when it tries to build a test program.

I can post much more detailed information if you want it.  Google searches
have not resulted in any answers, only more questions.

Thanks.

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Perl5 Bug Summary

2005-09-19 Thread Robert Spier

Nick takes the lead!

Requestors with most open tickets

Nicholas Clark40
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  39
Mark-Jason Dominus25
Stas Bekman   15
David Dyck14
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  13
Tom Christiansen  12
Dan Jacobson   9
Zefram 8
Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes8




Perl5 Bug Summary

http://rt.perl.org/rt3/NoAuth/perl5/Overview.html
Generated at Mon Sep 19 13:00:05 2005 GMT
---

  * Total Issues
  * New Issues
  * Overview of Open Issues
  * Ticket Status By Version
  * Requestors with most open tickets

---

Total Issues

Open Tickets: 1513

---

New Issues

New issues that have not been responded to yet

1 - 2 weeks old
37144 Data crash when executing substitution on the Perl debugger  
37140 Building recent Perl on Mac OSX  
37138 using XSUB as DB::DB causes perl to crash
37119 SelfLoader/fork() gotcha 
2 - 3 weeks old
37058 script produces segfault (testcase attached) 
37033 open2 oddity with eval ... and STDIN closed
3 - 4 weeks old
36999 Segfault in simple regular expression
4 - 5 weeks old
36949 Small error in Encode manpage
36937 Perl Bug durring test stage of install on Windows XP -- included source  
  of error and possible fix
36909 $^R undefined on matches involving backreferences
36908 ?{ ...}) code loses local vars on subsequent matches 
5 - 6 weeks old
36896 autouse + DProf == segmentation fault
36890 Missing ;. (nosemi)
36889 Missing warning for bogus dirhandle name 
36875 Certain string handling functions don't warn on undef
36837 B::Deparse fails when it comes to ByteLoader programs
6 - 7 weeks old
36815 [PATCH] warnings.pl/pm: Croaker function: bug (perl v5.8, v5.9)  
36795 Dprof/dprofpp reports incorrect subroutine call count if #Calls  99 
7 - 8 weeks old
36691 string captured into $1, $2,... in pattern match sometimes have utf8 bit 
  on and sometimes off. Even for the same patternmatch arguments   
36689 =, |= and ^= overloads are nbot documented  
36675 -'-10' eq '+10'  
36664 Strange behavior of shared array 
36653 POSIX::SigSet double free with threads   
8 - 9 weeks old
36630 open =fd does not work like fdopen 
36614 Build fails on NonStop-UX
9 - 10 weeks old   
36539 Edge cases in find_perl algorithms 
36516 attributes.pm documentation is recursive and incomplete  
36513 Pod::Html exports two undocumented functions 
10 - 11 weeks old  
11 - 12 weeks old  
36430 Sort within a sort does not set $a, $b   
12 - 13 weeks old  
36347 Object destruction incomplete
13 - 14 weeks old  
36333 sort CONSTANT exhibits weird behavior
36291 incorrect $! from open nr with too many open files   
14 - 15 weeks old  
36248 print does not respect use encoding 'utf8' 
36229 Bizarre copy of IO   
15 - 16 weeks old  
36094 Wrong line 

Re: Perl5 Bug Summary

2005-09-19 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 01:16:34PM -0700, Robert Spier wrote:
 
 Nick takes the lead!

Anyone would think that I programmed in Perl.

(instead of on perl)

Nicholas Clark


This Week on perl5-porters (12-18 September 2005)

2005-09-19 Thread Adriano Ferreira
This Week on perl5-porters - 12-18 September 2005

  Nicholas Clark announced the plan for perl 5.8.8, so it was only
  fitting that someone should post a question asking how to compile
  5.004. Elsewhere there continued to be lots of discussion of VMS,
  carrying on from last week. All told, a fairly busy week with lots of
  single post threads, which made summarising a bit difficult.

5.8.8 is Coming

  Nicholas Clark posted a plan for 5.8.8.

  The deadline for changes (in blead, to be integrated in maint) is 16th
  October 2005. He will be mostly incommunicado for the first weeks of
  October, but explained that it isn't a problem. Fixes of bugs in
  pseudohashes and 5.005 threads go directly to maint and little else
  does. Steve Peters suggested that changes to re-entrant functions
  could be another exception, but for Nicholas it would have to wait for
  someone to figure out how to merge the code.

http://xrl.us/hn2o

The Current TODO
http://mirrors.develooper.com/perl/APC/perl-current/pod/perltodo.pod

New Core Module Releases

  Jarkko Hietaniemi, fulfilling the promise of last week's
  Math::Complex atan2 bug thread, announced a patch with several
  pending updates for Math::Complex and Math::Trig.

  The result of atan2(0,0) is now documented as being dependent on the
  underlying library.

  Nadeem Douba pointed what he called a small technical bug. He called
  for an optional argument, rho, to the subroutine
  great_circle_destination and explained the rationale of a solution.
  Jarkko countered that he was confused by the proposal, which does not
  fit the usual concept of radians. The default coordinate system cannot
  be changed without breaking existing code and there is no *correct*
  spherical coordinate system. He proposed a special export tag as a
  possible way to incorporate Nadeem's suggestion.

  John Peacock released version-0.48 to CPAN and a corresponding patch
  vs. bleadperl. A pure Perl implementation is coming and John hopes he
  soon will be done with this project. But before that, the PAUSE
  indexer needs to be fixed and CPANPLUS, CPAN, Module::Build
  patched to use version.pm fulltime.

Zlib on VMS

  The efforts to make Compress::Zlib work in blead on VMS continue. A
  long thread developed involving John E. Malmberg, Paul Marquess
  (Compress::Zlib), Tom Hughes (IO::Zlib), Jarkko Hietaniemi
  (external gzip support in IO::Zlib). It seems there are a zillion
  options to configure VMS Unix emulation and not all of these are
  handled gracefully by the Perl source code. Uncertainty concerning the
  differences of environment remains.

  The thread went on under the subject Zlib 2.00_03 / Blead 25366 on
  VMS + patched vms.c where John Malmberg and Paul Marquess continued
  the detective work. John's last message is investigating a possible
  problem with glob() on VMS which can be responsible for some of the
  test failures. It was found that by just removing leading ./ from
  directory variables on a test script made all its tests to pass. Craig
  Berry explained how limited is the home-grown glob() on VMS and John
  Malmberg notices that, as of OpenVMS 7.3-2, a glob() function is
  provided in the C library that is better be used on releases that
  supported it.

  Paul Marquess and John Malmberg went on to discuss issues on the
  consistency of VMS conversions and how it could be made better. Peter
  Prymer confirmed some VMS oddities on filename handling.

  ZLIB 2.0 / Blead 25366 on VMS 
  http://xrl.us/hn2p

More VMS Issues

  John E. Malmberg spotted a bug on the VMS specific Perl_cando() and
  squashed it with patch @25388. H. Merijn Brand applied it.

  The patch
  http://xrl.us/hn2q

  John also confirmed ExtUtils::CBuilder 0.13_01 tests ok.

  http://xrl.us/hn2r

  He added a few comments on the discussion with Ken Williams about an
  enhanced file spec handling for current VMS versions.

  The week closed with the posting by John Malmberg of an RFC proposing
  some VMS behavior changes. Apparently those changes may improve the
  consistency and precision of VMS perl.

  http://xrl.us/hn2s

Fiddling with the Bloody Grammar

  After the closing act of Michael Schwern, there was some subsequent
  traffic. Randal Schwartz discussed using for example, such as,
  and so on to say precisely what we mean. He thought it may be used
  as a general guideline for future writings, without crusades to fix it
  in the past.

  There was silence for a while. And then David Nicol offered a 92K
  patch over 5.9.2 replacing every e\.?g\.? and i\.?e\.? with *for
  example* and *that is*. Adding commas and removing Iitalics were
  left as an exercise for some willing person. No one volunteered.

  Michael closes
  http://xrl.us/hn2t

  Randal's advice
  http://xrl.us/hn2u

  Chainsaw patch
  http://xrl.us/hn2v

OS X 10.4 Issues

  make test for maint on OXS 10.4 fails lib/locale.t. Randal says: At
  least it fails on 

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on cygwin looks pretty good

2005-09-19 Thread John Peacock

Nicholas Clark wrote:

It's the first task mentioned in the TODO for the category
Tasks that need a little C knowledge

http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse?file=pod%2Fperltodo.podrev=

(been moderately hard at work reordering the TODO to put the easier things
earlier)


Can't we just have any Perl that is built with PERL_PATCHNUM defined 
emit blue smoke from the monitor?  That isn't #define'd except when 
building from p4 (or the mirrors).  Something like this (not complete 
since it ignores the DGUX branch):


=== perl.c
==
--- perl.c  (revision 18194)
+++ perl.c  (local)
@@ -3179,8 +3179,14 @@
(void *)upg_version(PL_patchlevel);
 #if !defined(DGUX)
PerlIO_printf(PerlIO_stdout(),
-   Perl_form(aTHX_ \nThis is perl, %SVf built for %s,
+   Perl_form(aTHX_
+#if defined(PERL_PATCHNUM)
+   \nThis is perl, %SVf-DEVEL%d built for %s,
+   vstringify(PL_patchlevel), PERL_PATCHNUM,
+#else
+   \nThis is perl, %SVf built for %s,
vstringify(PL_patchlevel),
+#endif
ARCHNAME));
 #else /* DGUX */
 /* Adjust verbose output as in the perl that ships with the DG/UX OS 
from EMC */


John

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oddity in op.c

2005-09-19 Thread Nicholas Clark
Merijn notices this line in 5.8.x in S_new_logop

  if ((type == OP_AND) == (SvTRUE(((SVOP*)first)-op_sv))) {

It's wonky. It seems to be wrong. But it's been that way since 5.8.0 started.

The corresponding point in blead is

  if ((type == OP_AND   SvTRUE(((SVOP*)first)-op_sv)) ||
  (type == OP_OR   !SvTRUE(((SVOP*)first)-op_sv)) ||
  (type == OP_DOR  !SvOK(((SVOP*)first)-op_sv))) {


This was patched by Marcus Holland-Moritz, changing that == to  in the 
process:

http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse?patch=22625

Presumably '==' is wrong. But if this is a bug, how can it be detected
with a perl level regression test?

Nicholas Clark


RE: oddity in op.c

2005-09-19 Thread Jan Dubois
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, Nicholas Clark wrote:
 
 Merijn notices this line in 5.8.x in S_new_logop
 
   if ((type == OP_AND) == (SvTRUE(((SVOP*)first)-op_sv))) {
 
 It's wonky. It seems to be wrong. But it's been that way since 5.8.0 started.
 
 The corresponding point in blead is
 
   if ((type == OP_AND   SvTRUE(((SVOP*)first)-op_sv)) ||
   (type == OP_OR   !SvTRUE(((SVOP*)first)-op_sv)) ||
   (type == OP_DOR  !SvOK(((SVOP*)first)-op_sv))) {
 
 
 This was patched by Marcus Holland-Moritz, changing that == to  in the
 process:
 
 http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse?patch=22625
 
 Presumably '==' is wrong. But if this is a bug, how can it be detected
 with a perl level regression test?

If type can *only* be either OP_AND or OP_OR, then the code is actually
equivalent as far as I can tell.  The second form is just more robust
in case type can assume any other value.

Cheers,
-Jan





Re: lib/test/simple/t/create.t help with VMS issue needed.

2005-09-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 08:47:42PM -0400, John E. Malmberg wrote:
 Anything happening with this for the 5.8.8 timeframe?

I guess I can kick 0.61 out the door.


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Re: BUG: MAKEMAKER 6.30_01 and blead in MM_UNIX.pm for VMS

2005-09-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:52:20PM -0400, John E. Malmberg wrote:
 As there is no false command on VMS, this is causing rerunning a make 
 to fail.
 
 Would adding the following line before the return $m be the fix for 
 this?  Or is something else needed to make sure only the last line is 
 removed?
 
 $m =~ s/false\n// if $IsVMS;

I see a number of uses of false in MM_Unix.  Rather than throw in more
VMS exceptions (blech) I'll make a $(FALSE) which can be something safe like
perl -e 'exit 1'


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VMS fixes for cbuilder

2005-09-19 Thread Ken Williams


On Sep 13, 2005, at 7:53 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote:


Ken Williams wrote:

On Sep 12, 2005, at 11:12 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote:

Ken Williams wrote:

Thanks, John.  I've applied your patch (in a slightly modified 
form) and released a new beta, 0.13_01.  It would be great if you 
(and/or a couple other people on the vmsperl list) could try it 
out, and then I can release 0.14 when it checks out.


I just pulled the Platform/vms.pm over and ran all the Extutils tests 
with it and they all pass


Okay, I've just uploaded it as version 0.14.  Thanks for your help.

 -Ken



Upgrade MakeMaker in maint

2005-09-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
Maint is still using MakeMaker 6.17 which is now TWO YEARS OLD!

Last I checked there was some VMS failure or another possibly tied to
File::Find but I don't have details.  I really rather 5.8.8 not go out with 
6.17 again, 6.30 is good and stable.  Can we just take the plunge, put 6.30
into maintperl and work out the glitches?


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Re: Upgrade MakeMaker in maint

2005-09-19 Thread John E. Malmberg

Michael G Schwern wrote:

Maint is still using MakeMaker 6.17 which is now TWO YEARS OLD!

Last I checked there was some VMS failure or another possibly tied to
File::Find but I don't have details.  I really rather 5.8.8 not go out with 
6.17 again, 6.30 is good and stable.  Can we just take the plunge, put 6.30

into maintperl and work out the glitches?


As 6.30 appears to be in blead-perl now, I do not see any File::Find issues.

The only issues I am seeing are resolved in cpan #14657 and the issue 
about the false command that you are looking at in your previous message.


And this issue only seems to affect a test, and not building Perl:

If the logical name BIN is defined on the VMS system, as the GNV 
product does on it's installation, then the following needs to be 
defined for the script lib/ExtUtils/t/basic.t to pass test 67.


$define decc$disable_to_vms_logname_translation ENABLE

Otherwise subdirectories named bin/ can not be accessed if they are the 
start of a relative path in UNIX notation and a logical name bin also 
exists.


I am looking at adding the ability to set/read these features to the 
vmsish module as it seems the natural place for them.


I just completed a test build with hard links and other new VMS 8.2 
features enabled, and all the make-maker tests still passed.


-John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Personal Opinion Only


Re: t/io/fs.t triply linked issue - Test does not match comments

2005-09-19 Thread John E. Malmberg

Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote:

On 9/19/05, John E. Malmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


When I enable hard links on VMS, it exposed that the t/io/fs.t is not
testing what the comments indicate that it is testing.

The correct test would be to see if the $mode of the third link matched
the $mode for the original file.

What the test is actually doing is testing to see if the umask function
is behaving according to the UNIX definition.

With VMS, setting the umask and related behaviors into the UNIX mode is
not the default behavior.


It appears that the behavior I was seeing before was an artifact of a 
pre-release version of OpenVMS that was fixed in a released version.


I am trying to reproduce the failure now, and can not.

As soon as a program calls umask() in the C library, the C library 
assumes that they want to use the UNIX mode.  It is only if umask() is 
not called that the OpenVMS defaults are used instead of the UNIX defaults.



One option is to fix the test to actually test what it claims to be
testing.  This could affect other platforms, but really should not.


I'd like to have a patch for that.


I can look into that.  First, I want to submit the changes for enabling 
hard links and other VMS 8.2 features.



Now should the test be testing for a UNIX compliant umask()?  And since
VMS by default is not set to UNIX compliant, it would need to know when
that pass would be expected to pass, or to when to put VMS into that mode.


And, moreover, and optionnally, we could add a new test for testing
umask() (there's no such test, at a first glance.) But of course it
would make sense to skip it on non-UNIX platforms, including VMS.


If it is has hard links enabled and is passing test 5 of the io/fs.t 
test then it already is passing the Posix compliance.


If nothing else, I will probably want to submit a patch so that the 
comments actually document what is being tested as I was very confused 
when I first saw the failure.


-John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Personal Opinion Only


[EMAIL PROTECTED] Add hard link and V8.2 crtl support to VMS.

2005-09-19 Thread John E. Malmberg
This patch adds the ability to build Perl on 64 bit VMS V8.2 with 
support for hard links, and the newer CRTL features.


Changes to configure.com:

1. Protect the link operations for the tests from someone aliasing the 
link command to default for a /DEBUG build.


2. Allow override of the make being chosen.  Currently only MMK or MMS 
are known to work for the build procedure.


3. Three prompts were waiting for input even when no additional prompt 
operation is selected.  With output redirected to a command file, there 
was no explanation of what was being prompted for.  Now no additional 
prompt mode really has no additional prompts.


4. Remove /00 from UNIX format names of VMS root directories.  These 
should not be there as if they are passed to a C library routine they 
are an illegal syntax.  vmsify() knows to remove these and this is why 
they usually have not caused problems.


5. Selecting maximal 64 bit mode also enables large file operation.

6. Removed second check for strtoq.

7. Add tests to see if hard links are enabled on the build volume and 
supported by the version of VMS and if pass enable hard links.


8. Add tests for symbolic link support for future version of VMS, which
will only be enabled if large file operation is also enabled.

9. Add VMS 7.3-2 CRTL routines: getgrdid_r, getpgid, getpgrp, 
getpwnam_r, getpwuid_r, setgrent, ttyname_r, but only on 64 bit VMS 8.2 
because I am not able to test the builds on earlier versions.


10. Prep for future support of seteuid, setpgid, setpgrp, seetregid, 
setreuid, setsid found in 7.3-2.


11. Add support for 64 bit VMS 8.2 fstatvfs and sockpair routine.

12. Add dormant support for _USE_STD_STAT option.  Currently the values 
returned by stat() functions on VMS are not POSIX compliant, and Perl on 
VMS has some hacks to make it look like they are POSIX compliant.  In 
the future it may be needed to for Perl to use the C library standard 
stat instead of the VMS hacks.  This makes the support easy to add later.


13. Better Posix/UNIX filename support in VMS 8.2 requires using the 
CRTL provided dirent.h header definition.


14. Optional (and mostly undocumented) method of generating a 
PERL_SETUP.COM that can be put in a binary distribution kit.



Changes to vms/descrip_mms.template:

1. Add support for _USE_STD_STAT option.

2. cleanup of extra.pods was missing from the REALCLEAN target.


Changes to x2p/s2p.PL:

1. $0 parameter on VMS could be in unknown case, so it needs to be lower 
cased to for parameter to work when VMS is in case sensitive or case 
preserved mode.


2. The link command needs to use the same filename as the fall back copy 
command.



-John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Personal Opinion Only
--- configure.com_25502 Mon Sep 19 23:35:06 2005
+++ configure.com   Sun Sep 18 22:38:33 2005
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
 $ cat  = type
 $ delete := delete ! local symbol overrides globals with qualifiers
 $ gcc_symbol = gcc
-$ ld = Link
+$ ld = Link/nodebug
 $ ans = 
 $ macros = 
 $ extra_flags = 
@@ -45,6 +45,7 @@
 $ use_ieee_math = y
 $ be_case_sensitive = n
 $ unlink_all_versions = n
+$ builder = MMK
 $ use_vmsdebug_perl = n
 $ use64bitall = n
 $ use64bitint = n
@@ -790,7 +791,12 @@
 brackets; typing carriage return will give you the default.
 
 $   EOD
-$   READ SYS$COMMAND/PROMPT=Type carriage return to continue  ans
+$   if (fastread)
+$   then
+$ echo4 
+$   else
+$ READ SYS$COMMAND/PROMPT=Type carriage return to continue  ans
+$   endif
 $   TYPE SYS$INPUT:
 $   DECK
 
@@ -800,7 +806,12 @@
 options.
 
 $   EOD
-$   READ SYS$COMMAND/PROMPT=Type carriage return to continue  ans
+$   if (fastread)
+$   then
+$ echo4 
+$   else
+$ READ SYS$COMMAND/PROMPT=Type carriage return to continue  ans
+$   endif
 $   TYPE SYS$INPUT:
 $   DECK
 
@@ -821,7 +832,12 @@
 $!If you make a mistake on a question, there is no easy way to back up to it
 $!currently.
 $!
-$   READ SYS$COMMAND/PROMPT=Type carriage return to continue  ans
+$   if (fastread)
+$   then
+$ echo4 
+$   else
+$ READ SYS$COMMAND/PROMPT=Type carriage return to continue  ans
+$   endif
 $   IF (F$SEARCH([-.CONFIG]INSTRUCT.).EQS.)
 $   THEN
 $ OPEN/WRITE CONFIG [-.CONFIG]INSTRUCT.
@@ -840,7 +856,7 @@
 $! echo Go find a public domain implementation or fix your PATH setting!
 $! echo 
 $! echo Don't worry if any of the following aren't found...
-$!: determine whether symbolic links are supported !sfn
+$!: determine whether symbolic links are supported !sfn !jem- further down
 $!: see whether [:lower:] and [:upper:] are supported character classes !sfn
 $!: set up the translation script tr, must be called with ./tr of course !sfn
 $!
@@ -885,6 +901,7 @@
 $   config_symbols2 
=|prefix|privlib|privlibexp|scriptdir|sitearch|sitearchexp|sitebin|sitelib|sitelib_stem|sitelibexp|try_cxx|use64bitall|use64bitint|
 $   config_symbols3 
=|usecasesensitive|usedefaulttypes|usedevel|useieee|useithreads|usemultiplicity|usemymalloc|usedebugging_perl|useperlio|usesecurelog|