Re: Past-pm basic string types

2006-12-13 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 01:57:20PM -0800, Allison Randal wrote:
 Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
 I can modify PAST-pm to provide a send exactly this string to PIR 
 option for PAST::Val.  
 
 Yes, good idea for the simple case.

After sleeping on it overnight, I realized that PAST-pm already
has this feature.

Currently PAST-pm checks the PAST::Val node's ctype
attribute to decide whether to encode the literal value 
as a Parrot form -- if the node doesn't have ctype that indicates
string constant, then PAST-pm just uses the literal value
directly in the output.

So, just don't set ctype, and whatever the node has as
its name attribute will go directly into the PIR output.

Here's an example:

$ cat x.pir
.sub main :main
load_bytecode 'PAST-pm.pbc'
.local pmc valnode, blocknode, pir

##  $S0 is the string we want to appear in the output
$S0 = '\n'
valnode = new 'PAST::Val'
valnode.'init'('vtype'='.String', 'name'=$S0)
blocknode = valnode.'new'('PAST::Block', valnode, 'name'='anon')

##  compile the tree to PIR and print the result
$P99 = compreg 'PAST'
pir = $P99.'compile'(blocknode, 'target'='pir')
print pir
.end

$ ./parrot x.pir

.sub anon
new $P10, .String
assign $P10, \n
.return ($P10)
.end

Eventually the handling of ctype is going to change -- first,
the name will change to be more descriptive (but I'll leave a 'ctype'
accessor in place to give compilers time to switch); second, any
ctype specifications will be held in a HLL class mapping table 
instead of in each PAST::Val node.

There is a good chance that PAST-pm will treat PAST::Val nodes
of type .String as needing their values to be encoded for Parrot,
but to protect against this punie (and other compilers) can
use .Undef:

$S0 = '\n'
valnode = new 'PAST::Val'
valnode.'init'('vtype'='.Undef', 'name'=$S0)

Since the node isn't a string type, PAST-pm will use the name
$S0 value directly in the output PIR without performing any
encoding on the literal value, and the generated PIR from the node
would look like

new $P10, .Undef
assign $P10, \n

And this does exactly what you want.  :-)

Pm


Past-pm basic string types

2006-12-12 Thread Allison Randal
Patrick, what's the best way to pass-through string types from a 
compiler to Parrot without doing full string processing? To pass the 
current tests, Punie only needs Parrot's single- and double-quoted 
strings, but Past-pm is escaping them. So:


  print \n;

reaches the PIR translation as:

  print \\n

(I will add full string processing to Punie later, but since other 
compilers will also need basic Parrot string types, it makes sense to 
figure it out now.)


Allison


Re: Past-pm basic string types

2006-12-12 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:43:39AM -0800, Allison Randal wrote:
 Patrick, what's the best way to pass-through string types from a 
 compiler to Parrot without doing full string processing? To pass the 
 current tests, Punie only needs Parrot's single- and double-quoted 
 strings, but Past-pm is escaping them. 

PAST-pm expects it to be pretty rare that a HLL's string literal
format will exactly match what works as a string literal in PIR, so 
PAST::Val nodes expect the HLL to have already decoded the string
constant according to whatever rules the HLL uses.  Then PAST-pm
can re-encode the string into a form that is guaranteed to work
in Parrot (even handling things such as placing unicode: in
front of PIR string literals if the string has characters that
fall outside of the ASCII range.)

I can modify PAST-pm to provide a send exactly this string to PIR 
option for PAST::Val.  More generally useful would seem to be to 
provide a generic function or opcode that can decode single/double 
quoted strings according to PIR's encoding rules, and then use
that to get the string into PAST::Val.

PGE::Text could provide such a feature as part of its library-- i.e., 
subrules like:

 PGE::Text::pir_quoted_string:  
' PGE::Text::pir_quoted_string: '  '

could parse a valid pir string literal and provide the
decoded value as the result object.

 (I will add full string processing to Punie later, but since other 
 compilers will also need basic Parrot string types, it makes sense to 
 figure it out now.)

I think that the various languages have enough differences in
string literal handling that each compiler will end up writing 
its own string literal decoder.  (Or we need a semi-powerful library
to handle the many differences.)  In the meantime having an 
easy-to-access subrule for just pretend it's a quoted literal 
according to PIR conventions might be a good way for someone
wanting to bootstrap a compiler, without placing Parrot-specific
encodings into PAST-pm.

Lastly, I'm still working out the handling of HLL to Parrot
type mappings -- it's also possible that some of this will
fall out as a result of that.

Pm


Re: Past-pm basic string types

2006-12-12 Thread Allison Randal

Patrick R. Michaud wrote:


PAST-pm expects it to be pretty rare that a HLL's string literal
format will exactly match what works as a string literal in PIR, so 
PAST::Val nodes expect the HLL to have already decoded the string

constant according to whatever rules the HLL uses.  Then PAST-pm
can re-encode the string into a form that is guaranteed to work
in Parrot (even handling things such as placing unicode: in
front of PIR string literals if the string has characters that
fall outside of the ASCII range.)


Agreed that this is a good general solution.

I can modify PAST-pm to provide a send exactly this string to PIR 
option for PAST::Val.  


Yes, good idea for the simple case.

More generally useful would seem to be to 
provide a generic function or opcode that can decode single/double 
quoted strings according to PIR's encoding rules, and then use

that to get the string into PAST::Val.


That's a lot of extra work when all you need is for the string to pass 
through to PIR exactly as it was parsed. So I'd skip this one.



I think that the various languages have enough differences in
string literal handling that each compiler will end up writing 
its own string literal decoder.  (Or we need a semi-powerful library
to handle the many differences.)  In the meantime having an 
easy-to-access subrule for just pretend it's a quoted literal 
according to PIR conventions might be a good way for someone

wanting to bootstrap a compiler, without placing Parrot-specific
encodings into PAST-pm.


Ultimately we will want some general tools to assist compiler writers 
with string handling. It really shouldn't be any more difficult than 
writing the general grammar rules or operator precedence rules. Since 
special string handling is something Perl 6 users are likely to need too 
(pretty much all templating is customized string interpolation), it's 
worth punting this to p6l to see if they come up with a nice interface.


In the mean time, a string decoder rule written in PIR is good enough.


Lastly, I'm still working out the handling of HLL to Parrot
type mappings -- it's also possible that some of this will
fall out as a result of that.


Makes sense.

Allison