Re: FAQ Questions (WAS: ICU advantages? was Re: Problems Installing Parrot)

[Chris Dolan]

On Jul 21, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote:


Chris Dolan wrote:

This would be a good entry for the FAQs for a cage cleaner.


If you're collect questions for the FAQ, here are some Andy Lester
answered for me:


I'm not, actually.  :-(

Could you do one of the following, in order of preference:
 1) Write these up as a patch to the FAQ
 2) Write these up as a patch for cage/TODO.pod
 3) Submit an RT bug to add these to the FAQ

Chris

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Re: FAQ Questions (WAS: ICU advantages? was Re: Problems Installing Parrot)

[Patrick R. Michaud]

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 02:12:57PM -0400, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote:
> Chris Dolan wrote:
> > 1. Do I need root privileges to install Parrot? Do I need it for Cage
> > Cleaners?
> 
> You don't even need root at all.  You can build in a local directory and
> not install.

In fact, for those who are developing parrot the current
recommendation is to *not* install it, as it often produces later
collisions between installed and local copies of parrot.

Pm

Re: FAQ Questions (WAS: ICU advantages? was Re: Problems Installing Parrot)

[Mr. Shawn H. Corey]

Chris Dolan wrote:
> On Jul 21, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
> 
>>> I have downloaded the icu4j_3_4_4.jar but have no idea what to do with
>>> it. Could someone please help?
>>>
>> You'll want to get icu4c (icu for C), not icu4j (for java).  If you
>> get the tgz C version, just tar xzvf it, cd source; ./configure; make;
>> make install.  Note that most Linux distros have packages for icu. 
>> apt-get install libicu.* will get everything you need on Debian.  (On
>> other distros, be sure to install the -dev or -devel pacakages).
>>
>> Anyway, here's where I got it from:
>> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/globalization/icu/3.4.1/icu-3.4.1.tgz
> 
> On a related note, I understand that ICU is recommended but not required
> for Parrot (right?).  After searching in the Parrot docs subdir a couple
> weeks ago, I couldn't find more than that.  Questions:
> 
>  1) Is there documentation on how ICU relates to Parrot somewhere that I
> missed?
>  2) How important is ICU?
>  3) If I build Parrot without ICU, what repercussions should I expect?
> 
> This would be a good entry for the FAQs for a cage cleaner.

If you're collect questions for the FAQ, here are some Andy Lester
answered for me:

>
> First, my background. I am an experienced programmer having worked with
> Perl since version 4 and worked with C for many years before that. I
> have worked with SCCS and RCS but not CVS nor SVN.

Basically the same stuff.

> 1. Do I need root privileges to install Parrot? Do I need it for Cage
> Cleaners?

You don't even need root at all.  You can build in a local directory and
not install.

> 2. How much disk space does this take? What's the best way to get it
> without using too much disk space?

My build directory is 194MB.



> 3. My ISP offers unlimited downloads between midnight and 7 AM (and
> unlimited uploads anytime). Is there away to get CVS/SVN to do its
> updates in this time slot? Or rather is there a way to limit it so it
> doesn't automatically update without permission?

It won't update automatically.  Once you have the stuff on your local
system, Subversion is pretty parsimonious with the bandwidth

> 4. Is there a naming convention for Parrot's root directory or can I
> stick it just anywhere?

Anywhere.

> 5. What would be the difference between using SVN and SVK
>  ?

Unless you're a Subversion whiz, stick with Subversion, not svk.


Please sign up for perl6-internals, soon to be renamed parrot-porters,
at lists.perl.org.  That's where our discussions go on, and where all
the cage cleaners are starting to accumulate.  There I can talk about
some high-level plans, and people can pick at things that they find most
interesting.  Plus, you can share your questions with other developers, too.

Thanks for joining!

xoxo,
Andy

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