Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-09 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
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On 9/8/10 14:24 , Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 04:02:10PM +0400, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
 I do want the diffs back: its the only way I have to keep at least
 some idea of what is changing any why.
 
 We know that a lot of people would like to see the diffs available
 through the commit messages, but afaik none of us actively maintaining
 the github archive quite know how to make that happen.  Something
 beyond please bring diffs back would be very helpful to us here.

Someone earlier suggested something starting with fork this project
(github-utils, IIRC); I poked and found myself looking at what appears to be
Rails.  And I've already got one Rails project making me cross-eyed (I know
Ruby but not Rails, so no idea where to start).

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Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-08 Thread Hongwen Qiu

 于 2010年09月08日 13:41, Jason Switzer 写道:

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Moritz Lenzmor...@faui2k3.org  wrote:


Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:

On 9/7/10 08:17 , nore...@github.com wrote:

Commit: 7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8


http://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8

It was nicer when these contained the actual diffs like they used to,
instead of forcing me to go poke at the tree.

Indeed. Any contributions to restoring that behavior are very welcome.


I'm surprised anyone actually ever read the diff part of the message. I
would prefer to never see that feature again. This has a link to the commit,
which has a much better diff viewer than plaintext email (hello? 1997
called, they want their change notices back). It links to the actual change
and even highlights the changes. Now I'll actually take a moment to sift
through the changes. I vote to never see those diff emails ever again. In
fact, if the diffs are brought back, I'll just subscribe to the commit feed
and skip the email notice all together.
I used to read every diff messages before. And I don't want to click any 
links to just open the web browser for viewing the diff messages. So, 
given different people have different habits, I suggest to include the 
diff messages, but only after also including the links to github.


Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-08 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 07:41, Jason Switzer jswit...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm surprised anyone actually ever read the diff part of the message. I
 would prefer to never see that feature again. This has a link to the
 commit,
 which has a much better diff viewer than plaintext email (hello? 1997
 called, they want their change notices back).


In some respects, I want 1997 back, since people learned how to work
efficiently rather than not. ;)

I both like and can read the contextual diffs just fine.


 It links to the actual change
 and even highlights the changes.


Yes, it's all very nice, and nothing that needs to go away. Having it both
ways can't hurt.


 Now I'll actually take a moment to sift
 through the changes. I vote to never see those diff emails ever again. In
 fact, if the diffs are brought back, I'll just subscribe to the commit feed
 and skip the email notice all together.

 That seems like a reasonable solution for you, then.
-- 
Jan


Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Hainsworth
I do want the diffs back: its the only way I have to keep at least some 
idea of what is changing any why.


Dont care if I'm called an old foggy either - 1997 wasnt that long ago 
for me.


On 09/08/10 13:32, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote:

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 07:41, Jason Switzerjswit...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

I'm surprised anyone actually ever read the diff part of the message. I
would prefer to never see that feature again. This has a link to the
commit,
which has a much better diff viewer than plaintext email (hello? 1997
called, they want their change notices back).
 


In some respects, I want 1997 back, since people learned how to work
efficiently rather than not. ;)

I both like and can read the contextual diffs just fine.


   

It links to the actual change
and even highlights the changes.
 


Yes, it's all very nice, and nothing that needs to go away. Having it both
ways can't hurt.


   

Now I'll actually take a moment to sift
through the changes. I vote to never see those diff emails ever again. In
fact, if the diffs are brought back, I'll just subscribe to the commit feed
and skip the email notice all together.

That seems like a reasonable solution for you, then.
 


Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-08 Thread Darren Duncan

Jason Switzer wrote:

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Moritz Lenz mor...@faui2k3.org wrote:


Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:

On 9/7/10 08:17 , nore...@github.com wrote:

Commit: 7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8


http://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8

It was nicer when these contained the actual diffs like they used to,
instead of forcing me to go poke at the tree.

Indeed. Any contributions to restoring that behavior are very welcome.


I'm surprised anyone actually ever read the diff part of the message. I
would prefer to never see that feature again. This has a link to the commit,
which has a much better diff viewer than plaintext email (hello? 1997
called, they want their change notices back). It links to the actual change
and even highlights the changes. Now I'll actually take a moment to sift
through the changes. I vote to never see those diff emails ever again. In
fact, if the diffs are brought back, I'll just subscribe to the commit feed
and skip the email notice all together.


I like the email diffs and think that both they plus the link to the web diff 
should be in the emails.


Sure, the web page diffs are prettier, but the email diffs are much more 
convenient, and pretty enough.  With the email we don't have to click a link to 
see what changed.


And particularly important, if we want to reply with a *comment* on the diff, it 
is easy to cite the portions we're commenting on, because a simple reply on the 
list message has the diffs quoted.


-- Darren Duncan


Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-08 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 04:02:10PM +0400, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
 I do want the diffs back: its the only way I have to keep at least
 some idea of what is changing any why.

We know that a lot of people would like to see the diffs available
through the commit messages, but afaik none of us actively maintaining
the github archive quite know how to make that happen.  Something
beyond please bring diffs back would be very helpful to us here.

For those who prefer to just have links to the diffs without the
text of the diffs, subscribing to the commit RSS feed is probably 
the best bet.

Pm


Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-08 Thread Moritz Lenz
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 04:02:10PM +0400, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
 I do want the diffs back: its the only way I have to keep at least
 some idea of what is changing any why.
 
 We know that a lot of people would like to see the diffs available
 through the commit messages, but afaik none of us actively maintaining
 the github archive quite know how to make that happen.  Something
 beyond please bring diffs back would be very helpful to us here.

Currently the Email service hook in github is enabled for the specs repo.

They are open source, see http://github.com/github/github-services for
details. Somebody could implement the include-the-diff feature, and make
the github folks apply the changes.

Or somebody could follow the feed and send emails to p6l, in which case
I'd disable the service hook.

Cheers,
Moritz


[perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-07 Thread noreply
Branch: refs/heads/master
Home:   http://github.com/perl6/specs

Commit: 7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8

http://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8
Author: Coke w...@coleda.com
Date:   2010-09-07 (Tue, 07 Sep 2010)

Changed paths:
  M S05-regex.pod
  M S12-objects.pod

Log Message:
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remove some some duplicate words words




Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-07 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
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On 9/7/10 08:17 , nore...@github.com wrote:
 Commit: 7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8
 
 http://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8

It was nicer when these contained the actual diffs like they used to,
instead of forcing me to go poke at the tree.

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Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-07 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 12:10:37PM -0400, Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
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 On 9/7/10 08:17 , nore...@github.com wrote:
  Commit: 7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8
  
  http://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8
 
 It was nicer when these contained the actual diffs like they used to,
 instead of forcing me to go poke at the tree.

If they can't be fixed to include the diffs, I'd prefer that the messages
be discontinued.

Right now their signal to noise is pretty damn low - presumably anyone who
actually wants this lack of detail can subscribe to
http://github.com/perl6/specs/commits/master.atom

Nicholas Clark


Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-07 Thread Moritz Lenz
Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
 On 9/7/10 08:17 , nore...@github.com wrote:
 Commit: 7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8
 
 http://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8
 
 It was nicer when these contained the actual diffs like they used to,
 instead of forcing me to go poke at the tree.

Indeed. Any contributions to restoring that behavior are very welcome.

Cheers,
Moritz


Re: [perl6/specs] 761178: remove some some duplicate words words

2010-09-07 Thread Jason Switzer
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Moritz Lenz mor...@faui2k3.org wrote:

 Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
  On 9/7/10 08:17 , nore...@github.com wrote:
  Commit: 7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8
 
 http://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/7611788411e5aff5f3ae150e2da9929ee546d6d8
 
  It was nicer when these contained the actual diffs like they used to,
  instead of forcing me to go poke at the tree.

 Indeed. Any contributions to restoring that behavior are very welcome.


I'm surprised anyone actually ever read the diff part of the message. I
would prefer to never see that feature again. This has a link to the commit,
which has a much better diff viewer than plaintext email (hello? 1997
called, they want their change notices back). It links to the actual change
and even highlights the changes. Now I'll actually take a moment to sift
through the changes. I vote to never see those diff emails ever again. In
fact, if the diffs are brought back, I'll just subscribe to the commit feed
and skip the email notice all together.

-Jason