Fwd: RE: $a in @b

2000-09-06 Thread Ed Mills

The fact that something can be accomplished in Perl doesn't necessarily mean 
its the best or most desirable way to do it. I respect the programming 
abilities, but

   grep { ref($a) eq ref($b) } @b)

is far less intuitive than the proposal. I could perhaps dig into my distant 
memory and explain how to accomplish something like this with PDP-8 
front-panel switches, but that doesn't mean that we should not attempt a 
loftier solution.

IMHO Perl should add a plethora of higher-order functions for arrays and 
hashes, and from the chatter here I think a lot of people agree. Put them 
there and if people don't want to use them, fine. Give us lots of ways to do 
things- we know that's Perlish.

Personally, I don't like the "in" choice- I favor symbols over words, but 
its better than not having it at all. Conflicts with barewords, especially 
in hash refs, can be a problem. Do away that the conflict by favoring 
symbols over words.

Ed

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From: Garrett Goebel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Jonas Liljegren' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: $a in @b
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:43:03 -0500

From: Jonas Liljegren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  Does any other RFC give the equivalent to an 'in' operator?
 
  I have a couple of times noticed that beginners in programming want to
  write if( $a eq ($b or $c or $d)){...} and expects it to mean
  if( $a eq $b or $a eq $c or $a eq $d ){...}.
 
  I think it's a natural human reaction to not be repetative. An 'in'
  operator will help here. It could be something like this:
 
  $a in @b; # Has @b any element exactly the same as $a
  $a == in @b; # Is any element numericaly the same as $a
  $a eq in @b;
  $a  in @b;  # Is $a bigger than any element in @b?
  $a not in @b; # Yes. Make 'not' context dependent modifier for in.

   grep { ref($a) eq ref($b) } @b)  # Same type?
   grep { $a == $_ } @b)
   grep { $a eq $_ } @b)
   grep { $a  $_ } @b)
   (grep { $a != $_ } @b) == @b)

Garrett

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Re: Fwd: RE: $a in @b

2000-09-06 Thread Tom Christiansen

IMHO Perl should add a plethora of higher-order functions for arrays and 
hashes, and from the chatter here I think a lot of people agree. 

Make some modules, release them, and see how much they're used.  Then 
one can contemplate sucking them into the core based upon the success
of those modules.

--tom