Re: perl6's new name?

2019-08-14 Thread Eliza

Hi,

on 2019/8/13 11:52, Veesh Goldman wrote:
All ML really happens in C++. The only advantage that python has is that 
people use it. P6 is flexible enough that I'm sure you can port 
TensorFlow using nativeCall within a month.
Perl as a whole has a terrible image problem. People think it's just awk 
with more punctuation variables. Literally, to most people Perl is regexes.
In my opinion, what we need is a tutorial website that ranks high on 
search engines for searches not about Perl, so that people will realize 
that Perl is very readable and very useful. But I digress.


Though I do use perl every day but just found this interesting article 
from Hacknews about python you may just give a try reading.


http://cloudcache.net/PythonCoverStoryNJH_FINAL.pdf

regards,
Eliza


Re: perl6's new name?

2019-08-13 Thread Eliza

Hi,

on 2019/8/14 5:19, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote:
Having said that, I should add that if the name should really change, I 
think Camelia is probably the least bad idea that I can think of.




Following the link: 
https://medium.com/@ThePearlSource/pearls-and-birthstones-the-pearl-month-giveaway-f8c0da46fdc0


June - Pearl
July - Ruby
August - Peridot

So how about perl6 renames to Peridot or Peri?

regards,
Eliza


Re: perl6's new name?

2019-08-12 Thread Eliza

Hi,

on 2019/8/13 3:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote:

Perl, on the other hand, can do anything Python can (except stackless) and,
generally, just as easily.


I don't think so specially in AI/ML field.

Python can handle primitive types much better than ruby/perl can at the 
moment. And has much less of an overhead, compared to ruby where almost 
everything is a FixNum etc (perl is even worse on types), where Python 
can see the actual integer or float and calculations can run at close to 
C++ speeds.


Re: perl6's new name?

2019-08-12 Thread Eliza

Hi,

on 2019/8/13 2:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote:
I love Perl but it has an image problem.  If Perl didn't have an image 
problem,

Python never would have become so popular.


can you give more detailed description what image problem perl has? thanks.


perl6's new name?

2019-08-12 Thread Eliza

Hello perl6 world,

I saw the perl6 github issue, just was confused will perl6 change its name?

Perl 6 was initially conceived to be the next version of Perl 5. It took 
way too long to mature to an initial release. Meanwhile, people 
interested in taking Perl 5 along, took back the reigns and continued 
developing Perl 5.


Having two programming languages that are sufficiently different to not 
be source compatible, but only differ in what many perceive to be a 
version number, is hurting the image of both Perl 5 and Perl 6 in the 
world. Since the word "Perl" is still perceived as "Perl 5" in the 
world, it only seems fair that "Perl 6" changes its name.


Since Larry has indicated, in his video message to the participants of 
PerlCon 2019 in Riga, that the two sister languages are now old and wise 
enough to take care of themselves, such a name change would no longer 
require the approval of the BDFL.


I would therefore propose to change the name to "the Camelia Programming 
Language" or "Camelia" for short, for several reasons:


the search term "camelia programming language" already brings you to the 
right place. This means that changing the name to "Camelia" will have 
minimal impact on findability on search engines such as Google and 
DuckDuckGo.


the logo / mascot would not need changing: it's just that it now also 
becomes the actual name of the programming language.


"Camelia" in its name, still carries something Perlish inside of it.

The concept of "Camelia" being an implementation of a specification in 
"roast", still stands. The alternative, to use "Rakudo" as the name of 
the language, would cause confusion with the name being used to indicate 
an implementation, and would endanger the separation between 
specification and implementation.


Choosing yet another name, such as Albus, would mean having to start 
from scratch with marketing and getting the name out there. Hence my 
preference for a known name such as "Camelia".


The "Camelia" logo is still copyright Larry Wall, so it would allow 
Larry to still be connected to one of the programming languages that he 
helped get into the world.


https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/issues/81

regards,
Eliza


Re: Help with Perl 6 script

2019-08-11 Thread Eliza

me either. no error happens.

在 2019/8/10 9:30, William Michels via perl6-users 写道:

Spoiler alert: the Perl6 code you posted works with no errors on my
Perl6 install.