Re: vulgar?
Not in the least, I was just pointing that "vulgarity" is in the eye of the beholder. Words are just words. Sometimes they are names, other times they are swear words, other times they are just text. All in the way you see them. Erez On 05/12/2019 12:58, Tobias Leich wrote: "it's the level of vulgarity you'd expect from a guy called S***ov." ... and know it's getting personal... -.- Erez Schatz mailto:moonb...@gmail.com>> schrieb am Do., 5. Dez. 2019, 11:42: it's the level of vulgarity you'd expect from a guy called S***ov. But seriously, it's nothing you won't see on basic cable or the Linux Kernel mailing list. Erez On 12/5/19 12:38 PM, Tom Browder wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 03:57 Todd Chester via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote ... I really like this guys style of writing and examples for Perl6. But he can be a bit vulgar at times, which I ignore. Is he doing it on purpose? Todd, I took a quick glance at the link you gave and all I saw was reference to the Brain* language (whose author I believe should be ashamed of himself for that name--something like "Braincramp" would have been better). I have all Andrew's books and read many of his blogs and never noticed any trend of vulgarity (which, I too, am sensitive to). I do see evidence of several Perl and Raku people whose speech can sometimes be quite crude and blasphemous, but I'm afraid that's the modern world: good manners and civility have all but disappeared in public places. I will say, though, that the #Raku IRC channel has much less coarse lingo and much more kindness than most other places I visit. I have had several email conversations with Andrew and he seems like a nice person to me. I sometimes think non-native English speakers pick up bad speech habits because of the absolutely sewer-mouthed "popular" folks on Twitter. Best regards, -Tom
Re: vulgar?
it's the level of vulgarity you'd expect from a guy called S***ov. But seriously, it's nothing you won't see on basic cable or the Linux Kernel mailing list. Erez On 12/5/19 12:38 PM, Tom Browder wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 03:57 Todd Chester via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote ... I really like this guys style of writing and examples for Perl6. But he can be a bit vulgar at times, which I ignore. Is he doing it on purpose? Todd, I took a quick glance at the link you gave and all I saw was reference to the Brain* language (whose author I believe should be ashamed of himself for that name--something like "Braincramp" would have been better). I have all Andrew's books and read many of his blogs and never noticed any trend of vulgarity (which, I too, am sensitive to). I do see evidence of several Perl and Raku people whose speech can sometimes be quite crude and blasphemous, but I'm afraid that's the modern world: good manners and civility have all but disappeared in public places. I will say, though, that the #Raku IRC channel has much less coarse lingo and much more kindness than most other places I visit. I have had several email conversations with Andrew and he seems like a nice person to me. I sometimes think non-native English speakers pick up bad speech habits because of the absolutely sewer-mouthed "popular" folks on Twitter. Best regards, -Tom
Re: perl6's new name?
It's all bike-shedding. On 8/12/19 9:14 AM, Eliza wrote: Hello perl6 world, I saw the perl6 github issue, just was confused will perl6 change its name? Perl 6 was initially conceived to be the next version of Perl 5. It took way too long to mature to an initial release. Meanwhile, people interested in taking Perl 5 along, took back the reigns and continued developing Perl 5. Having two programming languages that are sufficiently different to not be source compatible, but only differ in what many perceive to be a version number, is hurting the image of both Perl 5 and Perl 6 in the world. Since the word "Perl" is still perceived as "Perl 5" in the world, it only seems fair that "Perl 6" changes its name. Since Larry has indicated, in his video message to the participants of PerlCon 2019 in Riga, that the two sister languages are now old and wise enough to take care of themselves, such a name change would no longer require the approval of the BDFL. I would therefore propose to change the name to "the Camelia Programming Language" or "Camelia" for short, for several reasons: the search term "camelia programming language" already brings you to the right place. This means that changing the name to "Camelia" will have minimal impact on findability on search engines such as Google and DuckDuckGo. the logo / mascot would not need changing: it's just that it now also becomes the actual name of the programming language. "Camelia" in its name, still carries something Perlish inside of it. The concept of "Camelia" being an implementation of a specification in "roast", still stands. The alternative, to use "Rakudo" as the name of the language, would cause confusion with the name being used to indicate an implementation, and would endanger the separation between specification and implementation. Choosing yet another name, such as Albus, would mean having to start from scratch with marketing and getting the name out there. Hence my preference for a known name such as "Camelia". The "Camelia" logo is still copyright Larry Wall, so it would allow Larry to still be connected to one of the programming languages that he helped get into the world. https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/issues/81 regards, Eliza
