Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-17 Thread Darren Duncan
While that is useful, and could be something I settle for, its not really the 
same thing at all.


Any other domain could be setup to redirect to perl6.org, and I haven't seen any 
official word that raku.org is the official replacement, though it would be nice 
to be.


When perl6.org redirects to some raku domain, then I'd have the most confidence 
that is indeed the official replacement.  That or some formal announcement that 
this is the domain that will be used and not say raku-lang.org or something.


Maybe I'll just have to use raku.org for now in my documents, but keep a close 
eye on the situation and be ready to change it again quickly if something else 
actually becomes the official replacement.


-- Darren Duncan

On 2019-10-16 9:09 a.m., Joseph Brenner wrote:

Last I looked, raku.org redirects to perl6.org already.

On 10/15/19, Darren Duncan  wrote:

One of the earliest steps that I hope gets implemented as soon as possible
is
that the previous official web domain for Perl 6 which is *.perl6.org gets
an
official replacement such as *.raku.org which has identical structure and
content but for the domain, and any visits to the former 301 redirect to the
latter.

Basically I'm ready to go and update all references in my own projects or
websites to the new name but I consider having a canonical web address to
link
to for Raku just as perl6.org was to be essential to updating my stuff, as I

need something proper to reference.


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-16 Thread Joseph Brenner
Last I looked, raku.org redirects to perl6.org already.

On 10/15/19, Darren Duncan  wrote:
> One of the earliest steps that I hope gets implemented as soon as possible
> is
> that the previous official web domain for Perl 6 which is *.perl6.org gets
> an
> official replacement such as *.raku.org which has identical structure and
> content but for the domain, and any visits to the former 301 redirect to the
> latter.
>
> Basically I'm ready to go and update all references in my own projects or
> websites to the new name but I consider having a canonical web address to
> link
> to for Raku just as perl6.org was to be essential to updating my stuff, as I
>
> need something proper to reference.
>
> -- Darren Duncan
>


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-16 Thread Kaare Rasmussen

Den 15-10-2019 kl. 17:49 skrev Andrew Shitov:

To my opinion, should be done before this year's Christmas. At least 
everything that can be done by the "Perl 6 team"



But after lunch.

/kaare


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-16 Thread Darren Duncan
One of the earliest steps that I hope gets implemented as soon as possible is 
that the previous official web domain for Perl 6 which is *.perl6.org gets an 
official replacement such as *.raku.org which has identical structure and 
content but for the domain, and any visits to the former 301 redirect to the latter.


Basically I'm ready to go and update all references in my own projects or 
websites to the new name but I consider having a canonical web address to link 
to for Raku just as perl6.org was to be essential to updating my stuff, as I 
need something proper to reference.


-- Darren Duncan


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread N6Ghost
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 05:48:49PM +0200, JJ Merelo wrote:
> There's no such thing as a Raku blog, so I am not sure where the official
> renaming should go. Closest thing is Liz's Raku weekly, I guess...
> 
> El mar., 15 oct. 2019 a las 17:47, Andrew Shitov ()
> escribió:
> 

at this point, since we dont really have some sort of offical announcement, 
word is coming out
via posts. the quicker we can get an offical coomunications going out that 
would be better. 

-N6Ghost 



> > Hi,
> >
> > Here's what Larry Wall said:
> >
> > https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/pull/89?fbclid=IwAR2rrjkuKJTWBPX6bobZTfeSj4VePT9HmEsunlLtD_XeP9g06RFsk-y0kHw#pullrequestreview-300789072
> >
> > For me, there can be no other "official" announcement. The new name is
> > Raku.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:43 PM N6Ghost  wrote:
> >
> >> Starting to see posts, as if the decision was made already but have not
> >> see any offical
> >> post anywhere, i can find. everything seems to flow from a thread on
> >> github somehwere
> >> anyone know anything on the rename? is it "Raku" ?
> >>
> >> -N6Ghost
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Shitov
> > __
> > a...@shitov.ru | http://shitov.ru
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> JJ


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread N6Ghost
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 05:47:15PM +0200, Andrew Shitov wrote:


well, I guess "raku" it is, i think this may be a good thing. and we can push 
Raku forward in a cean
way.

-N6Ghost

> Hi,
> 
> Here's what Larry Wall said:
> https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/pull/89?fbclid=IwAR2rrjkuKJTWBPX6bobZTfeSj4VePT9HmEsunlLtD_XeP9g06RFsk-y0kHw#pullrequestreview-300789072
> 
> For me, there can be no other "official" announcement. The new name is Raku.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:43 PM N6Ghost  wrote:
> 
> > Starting to see posts, as if the decision was made already but have not
> > see any offical
> > post anywhere, i can find. everything seems to flow from a thread on
> > github somehwere
> > anyone know anything on the rename? is it "Raku" ?
> >
> > -N6Ghost
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Shitov
> __
> a...@shitov.ru | http://shitov.ru


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread Joseph Brenner
Just as a practical matter, I would expect it will be "Raku (the
language-formerly-known-as-Perl 6)" for some time.

I would call the vote among core developers "official", and Larry
Wall's approval makes it as solid as it can get.

On 10/15/19, JJ Merelo  wrote:
> There's no such thing as a Raku blog, so I am not sure where the official
> renaming should go. Closest thing is Liz's Raku weekly, I guess...
>
> El mar., 15 oct. 2019 a las 17:47, Andrew Shitov ()
> escribió:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here's what Larry Wall said:
>>
>> https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/pull/89?fbclid=IwAR2rrjkuKJTWBPX6bobZTfeSj4VePT9HmEsunlLtD_XeP9g06RFsk-y0kHw#pullrequestreview-300789072
>>
>> For me, there can be no other "official" announcement. The new name is
>> Raku.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:43 PM N6Ghost  wrote:
>>
>>> Starting to see posts, as if the decision was made already but have not
>>> see any offical
>>> post anywhere, i can find. everything seems to flow from a thread on
>>> github somehwere
>>> anyone know anything on the rename? is it "Raku" ?
>>>
>>> -N6Ghost
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Shitov
>> __
>> a...@shitov.ru | http://shitov.ru
>>
>
>
> --
> JJ
>


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread JJ Merelo
El mar., 15 oct. 2019 a las 17:49, Andrew Shitov ()
escribió:

> > The coming weeks / months / years, the name "Perl 6" will be replaced by
> "Raku".
>
> To my opinion, should be done before this year's Christmas. At least
> everything that can be done by the "Perl 6 team" (whatever it is).
>

It's a bunch of volunteers doing stuff as fast as they possible can. Any
help is obviously welcome.

JJ


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread Andrew Shitov
> The coming weeks / months / years, the name "Perl 6" will be replaced by
"Raku".

To my opinion, should be done before this year's Christmas. At least
everything that can be done by the "Perl 6 team" (whatever it is).

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:48 PM Elizabeth Mattijsen  wrote:

> > On 15 Oct 2019, at 17:43, N6Ghost  wrote:
> > Starting to see posts, as if the decision was made already but have not
> see any offical
> > post anywhere, i can find. everything seems to flow from a thread on
> github somehwere
> > anyone know anything on the rename? is it "Raku" ?
>
> The decision to rename "Perl 6" to "Raku" has been made.  The coming weeks
> / months / years, the name "Perl 6" will be replaced by "Raku".  Please
> note that this is a delicate process, both emotionally as well as
> technically.
>
>
> Liz



-- 
Andrew Shitov
__
a...@shitov.ru | http://shitov.ru


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread JJ Merelo
There's no such thing as a Raku blog, so I am not sure where the official
renaming should go. Closest thing is Liz's Raku weekly, I guess...

El mar., 15 oct. 2019 a las 17:47, Andrew Shitov ()
escribió:

> Hi,
>
> Here's what Larry Wall said:
>
> https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/pull/89?fbclid=IwAR2rrjkuKJTWBPX6bobZTfeSj4VePT9HmEsunlLtD_XeP9g06RFsk-y0kHw#pullrequestreview-300789072
>
> For me, there can be no other "official" announcement. The new name is
> Raku.
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:43 PM N6Ghost  wrote:
>
>> Starting to see posts, as if the decision was made already but have not
>> see any offical
>> post anywhere, i can find. everything seems to flow from a thread on
>> github somehwere
>> anyone know anything on the rename? is it "Raku" ?
>>
>> -N6Ghost
>>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Shitov
> __
> a...@shitov.ru | http://shitov.ru
>


-- 
JJ


Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
> On 15 Oct 2019, at 17:43, N6Ghost  wrote:
> Starting to see posts, as if the decision was made already but have not see 
> any offical
> post anywhere, i can find. everything seems to flow from a thread on github 
> somehwere
> anyone know anything on the rename? is it "Raku" ?

The decision to rename "Perl 6" to "Raku" has been made.  The coming weeks / 
months / years, the name "Perl 6" will be replaced by "Raku".  Please note that 
this is a delicate process, both emotionally as well as technically.


Liz

Re: Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread Andrew Shitov
Hi,

Here's what Larry Wall said:
https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/pull/89?fbclid=IwAR2rrjkuKJTWBPX6bobZTfeSj4VePT9HmEsunlLtD_XeP9g06RFsk-y0kHw#pullrequestreview-300789072

For me, there can be no other "official" announcement. The new name is Raku.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:43 PM N6Ghost  wrote:

> Starting to see posts, as if the decision was made already but have not
> see any offical
> post anywhere, i can find. everything seems to flow from a thread on
> github somehwere
> anyone know anything on the rename? is it "Raku" ?
>
> -N6Ghost
>


-- 
Andrew Shitov
__
a...@shitov.ru | http://shitov.ru


Perl6 -> Raku? whats the scope?

2019-10-15 Thread N6Ghost
Starting to see posts, as if the decision was made already but have not see any 
offical
post anywhere, i can find. everything seems to flow from a thread on github 
somehwere
anyone know anything on the rename? is it "Raku" ?

-N6Ghost