Re: user and group of a file?

2017-09-26 Thread Brandon Allbery 
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is the capability provided by Perl 5's "stat". Would a clone with
> the same properties and behaviours be the right thing, or are there
> "features" to fix?


Same features, probably. It is just one of those things that is poorly
portable to Windows, so doesn't belong in the core. There should also be a
corresponding Windows module that matches Windows APIs instead of trying to
force it to look like Unix (which is what perl 5 does).

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Re: user and group of a file?

2017-09-26 Thread Parrot Raiser 
This is the capability provided by Perl 5's "stat". Would a clone with
the same properties and behaviours be the right thing, or are there
"features" to fix?

On 9/26/17, Brandon Allbery  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:11 AM, ToddAndMargo 
> wrote:
>
>> Does Perl 6 have one of those fancy subs that will tell me
>> the user and group association of a file?  Or do I just
>> make a system call to "ls"?
>>
>
> At the moment you'll have to use ls. There's an ecosystem want out for a
> POSIX support module with this functionality; the core sticks to portable
> operations, and user and group information is different on Windows
> (notably: the ownership information is SIDs / UUIDs, and it's not so much
> like Unix groups defined by its members as it is an ACL defined by logical
> operations).
>
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Re: user and group of a file?

2017-09-26 Thread Brandon Allbery 
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:11 AM, ToddAndMargo  wrote:

> Does Perl 6 have one of those fancy subs that will tell me
> the user and group association of a file?  Or do I just
> make a system call to "ls"?
>

At the moment you'll have to use ls. There's an ecosystem want out for a
POSIX support module with this functionality; the core sticks to portable
operations, and user and group information is different on Windows
(notably: the ownership information is SIDs / UUIDs, and it's not so much
like Unix groups defined by its members as it is an ACL defined by logical
operations).

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user and group of a file?

2017-09-26 Thread ToddAndMargo 

Dear list,

Does Perl 6 have one of those fancy subs that will tell me
the user and group association of a file?  Or do I just
make a system call to "ls"?

Many thanks,
-T