Re: [ADMIN] unable to locate a valid checkpoint

2002-03-25 Thread Auri Mason

Hi Tom & pg_list,

> "Shutdown"?  Exactly what happened there?  It certainly doesn't look
> like you had a clean shutdown.

mmm, yes the postmaster was running in foregroud and was interrupted by a 
CTRL+C

What's the correct way to shutdown? kill -15 I think...

> At this point I think your only hope is contrib/pg_resetxlog, but that's
> a very blunt instrument.  It'd be nice to understand what went wrong.

pg_resetxlog mmm I've to read something about this command! U think 
this is the solution?

TIA, Auri



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[ADMIN] Time stamp on log file

2002-03-25 Thread Gaetano Mendola

Is it possible have on log file the time stamp ?


Ciao
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Re: [ADMIN] large table support 32,000,000 rows

2002-03-25 Thread Heni Lolov

Hi!
There are no problems with large tables.
I am running postgresql with a database with over 100,000,000 records.
The biggest table is with about 55,000,000 rows there are tables with with
25,000,000 and 19,000,000 rows and few other with less than 10,000,000.  It
works pretty good. It's online at http://www.astro.bas.bg/stargazer/ .
The performance is excellent. The database is about 15G.
The only problem was dump and restore while upgrading to 7.2 it took about 5
days.

Rumen

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> 
> I have a set of data that will compose a table with 32 million rows.  I
> currently run postgresql with tables as large as 750,000 rows.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with such large tables data.In addition,  I
> have been reading information on moving postgresql tables to 
> 
> another hard-drive  can anyone advise me.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [ADMIN] Time stamp on log file

2002-03-25 Thread Gaetano Mendola

"Gaetano Mendola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible have on log file the time stamp ?
> 

I find it !!! Thank you anyway.

It's enough send the SIGHUP to postmaster
for don't loose the existing connections?


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Re: [ADMIN] unable to locate a valid checkpoint

2002-03-25 Thread Auri Mason

Always me... ;P

I've just recover my installation by using pg_resetxlog.

But, what is the operation made by this command? I believe it performs a 
reset to the previous checkpoint, so some data could be lost..

>From now I'll use the start/stop/status script that I've found in 
contrib/start_script dir!

Auri


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Re: [ADMIN] slow inserts

2002-03-25 Thread Morten Sickel

Jodi Kanter wrote:

> I am currently using a Perl data loader that was set up to load data to
three particular
> tables. 
(Snip)
> I have placed some debugging syntax in the code and it seems that the
extra time if
> related to postgres as I  had  originally thought it may have to do with
the parsing of 
> the Excel file.

You don't mention it, but I assume you are using DBI/pg. You are sure you
are setting up you
insert qyery handlers once and then reuse them? >s setting up a query
handler takes a lot of time. 

ie

my $dbh=DBI->connect(dbi:Pg ...);

my $insh = $dbh->prepare("Insert into table values (?,?,?)";

foreach ($excelrow){
 parse;
 $insh->execute($data1,$data2,$data3);
}

I have written a few script of that kind my self, and I was really surprised
how much it mattered when I managed to move a $dbi->prepare out of the
insert loop.


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Re: [ADMIN] large table support 32,000,000 rows

2002-03-25 Thread Fred Moyer

are you running that on 32 bit or 64 bit hardware?  I have an 18G 
database which is mostly one table.  Dumps and restores in 
about 2-4 hours but sometimes is slow on certain operations.   
Running it on 4G Ram, redhat 7.2 enterprise kernel.

> Hi!
> There are no problems with large tables.
> I am running postgresql with a database with over 100,000,000 
records.
> The biggest table is with about 55,000,000 rows there are tables 
with with
> 25,000,000 and 19,000,000 rows and few other with less than 
10,000,000.  It
> works pretty good. It's online at http://www.astro.bas.bg/
stargazer/ .
> The performance is excellent. The database is about 15G.
> The only problem was dump and restore while upgrading to 7.2 
it took about 5
> days.
> 
> Rumen
> 
> --- Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I have a set of data that will compose a table with 32 million 
rows.  I
> > currently run postgresql with tables as large as 750,000 rows.
> > 
> > Does anyone have experience with such large tables data.In 
addition,  I
> > have been reading information on moving postgresql tables to 
> > 
> > another hard-drive  can anyone advise me.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards®
> 
> 
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Re: [ADMIN] slow inserts

2002-03-25 Thread Ferdinand Smit



> my $dbh=DBI->connect(dbi:Pg ...);
>
> my $insh = $dbh->prepare("Insert into table values (?,?,?)";
>

$insh->begin_work;

> foreach ($excelrow){
>  parse;
>  $insh->execute($data1,$data2,$data3);
> }

$insh->commit;

>
> I have written a few script of that kind my self, and I was really
> surprised how much it mattered when I managed to move a $dbi->prepare out
> of the insert loop.

Try to use transactions, that increates the speed too.

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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Niclas Gustafsson

Hi, I'm having trouble sorting my data.

I'm using PostgresQL 7.2 compiled with:
--enable-multibyte=LATIN1 --enable-locale

I've also created a test db, with one table:
CREATE DATABASE "testdb" WITH ENCODING = 'LATIN1';
And
CREATE TABLE "sorttest" (
  "id" int8 NOT NULL, 
  "data" varchar(100), 
  CONSTRAINT "sorttest_pkey" PRIMARY KEY ("id")
) WITH OIDS;

Then I've inserted some test values which seem to be sorted wrongfully
when I issue an 
select * from sorttest order by data

This is the output I get:

aa
aå
aä
åa
äa
ab
åb
äb
aö
ba
bå
bä
bb
bö
za
zö

I want it sorted in abcd..zåäö
What am I missing here? Any Ideas?


Regards,

Niclas Gustafsson


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To: Peter Eisentraut; Morten Sickel
Cc: Pgsql-Admin (E-post)
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?


Le Vendredi 15 Mars 2002 17:19, Peter Eisentraut a écrit :
> --enable-recode is a simplified version of part (2) of multibyte,
which
> only works for single-byte encodings.  It's mostly useful for
environments
> where Unix and Windows use different character sets for the same
language.
> (I think Czech was an example.)

As of PostgreSQL 7.2+, --enable--recode provides:
- Unicode <-> Latin1/Latin15 recoding,
- Unicode <-> SJIS (=Japanese Multibyte),
- and much more...

Client and server encodings can be set separately. Examples:
- CREATE DABASE foo WITH ENCODING 'Unicode';
- SET CLIENT_ENCODING = 'Latin9' (=ISO-8859-15) = Latin1 + euro symbol.

In pgAdmin2, we plan to take advantage of these new features to :
- change client encoding on the fly,
- display multi-byte text.

Cheers,
Jean-Michel POURE

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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Oliver Elphick

On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 11:14, Niclas Gustafsson wrote:
> Hi, I'm having trouble sorting my data.
> 
> I'm using PostgresQL 7.2 compiled with:
> --enable-multibyte=LATIN1 --enable-locale
...
> Then I've inserted some test values which seem to be sorted wrongfully
> when I issue an 
> select * from sorttest order by data
...
> I want it sorted in abcd..zåäö
> What am I missing here? Any Ideas?

1. Does the locale you are using sort as you want?

2. Did you initdb with that locale set?  (Use pg_controldata from
contrib to see what locale the backend is using.)  locale must be set
correctly for initdb, to ensure that indexes don't get broken by changes
of locale.

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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Niclas Gustafsson

Hi,

I am sure that 1) is correct, allthough I think I've overlooked 2)!
pg_controldata reports: (last 2 rows) 
LC_COLLATE:   en_US
LC_CTYPE: en_US

Is it possible to change this after you've run initdb? 

Regards,
Niclas Gustafsson


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To: Niclas Gustafsson
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Subject: Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?


On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 11:14, Niclas Gustafsson wrote:
> Hi, I'm having trouble sorting my data.
> 
> I'm using PostgresQL 7.2 compiled with:
> --enable-multibyte=LATIN1 --enable-locale
...
> Then I've inserted some test values which seem to be sorted wrongfully
> when I issue an 
> select * from sorttest order by data
...
> I want it sorted in abcd..zåäö
> What am I missing here? Any Ideas?

1. Does the locale you are using sort as you want?

2. Did you initdb with that locale set?  (Use pg_controldata from
contrib to see what locale the backend is using.)  locale must be set
correctly for initdb, to ensure that indexes don't get broken by changes
of locale.

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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Niclas Gustafsson

Hrm, a big RTFM to myself.  :)
>"The sort order used within a particular database cluster is set 
>by initdb and cannot be changed later, short of dumping all data, 
>rerunning initdb, and reloading the data."

Well I changed LC_ALL to LATIN1 and run initdb, dumped back all the 
data, but the sorting order seem to wrong still, allthough different, 

pg_controldata shows:
LC_COLLATE:   C
LC_CTYPE: C

Now I get the data sorted in the order below, quite close though:

 aa
 ab
 aä
 aå
 aö
 ba
 bb
 bä
 bå
 bö
 za
 zö
 äa
 äb
 åa
 åb

The å and ä are sorted in the wrong order.
Where can I see the order of the charset?

Regards,
Niclas Gustafsson


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To: 'Oliver Elphick'
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Subject: Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?


Hi,

I am sure that 1) is correct, allthough I think I've overlooked 2)!
pg_controldata reports: (last 2 rows) 
LC_COLLATE:   en_US
LC_CTYPE: en_US

Is it possible to change this after you've run initdb? 

Regards,
Niclas Gustafsson


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To: Niclas Gustafsson
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Subject: Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?


On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 11:14, Niclas Gustafsson wrote:
> Hi, I'm having trouble sorting my data.
> 
> I'm using PostgresQL 7.2 compiled with:
> --enable-multibyte=LATIN1 --enable-locale
...
> Then I've inserted some test values which seem to be sorted wrongfully
> when I issue an 
> select * from sorttest order by data
...
> I want it sorted in abcd..zåäö
> What am I missing here? Any Ideas?

1. Does the locale you are using sort as you want?

2. Did you initdb with that locale set?  (Use pg_controldata from
contrib to see what locale the backend is using.)  locale must be set
correctly for initdb, to ensure that indexes don't get broken by changes
of locale.

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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Oliver Elphick

On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 11:47, Niclas Gustafsson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am sure that 1) is correct, allthough I think I've overlooked 2)!
> pg_controldata reports: (last 2 rows) 
> LC_COLLATE:   en_US
> LC_CTYPE: en_US
> 
> Is it possible to change this after you've run initdb? 

No.  You have to dump the database, destroy everything, do initdb again
(with locale set correctly) and reload from your dump.

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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Oliver Elphick

On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 12:41, Niclas Gustafsson wrote:
> Hrm, a big RTFM to myself.  :)
> >"The sort order used within a particular database cluster is set 
> >by initdb and cannot be changed later, short of dumping all data, 
> >rerunning initdb, and reloading the data."
> 
> Well I changed LC_ALL to LATIN1 and run initdb, dumped back all the 
> data, but the sorting order seem to wrong still, allthough different, 

LATIN1 is an encoding, but I don't think it is a locale.  A locale looks
like de_DE@euro or en_GB: it consists of a language code followed by a
country code and an optional supplement.

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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Niclas Gustafsson

Sorry, I'm a bit overclocked today, the locale is ofcourse
sv_SE...


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Sent: den 25 mars 2002 13:57
To: Niclas Gustafsson
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?


On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 12:41, Niclas Gustafsson wrote:
> Hrm, a big RTFM to myself.  :)
> >"The sort order used within a particular database cluster is set 
> >by initdb and cannot be changed later, short of dumping all data, 
> >rerunning initdb, and reloading the data."
> 
> Well I changed LC_ALL to LATIN1 and run initdb, dumped back all the 
> data, but the sorting order seem to wrong still, allthough different, 

LATIN1 is an encoding, but I don't think it is a locale.  A locale looks
like de_DE@euro or en_GB: it consists of a language code followed by a
country code and an optional supplement.

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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Oliver Elphick

On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 12:59, Niclas Gustafsson wrote:
> Sorry, I'm a bit overclocked today, the locale is ofcourse
> sv_SE...

Well if that doesn't sort right, it is a problem with the lcoale
definition, not PostgreSQL.  As I understand it, PostgreSQL merely uses
the locale without amendment.

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Re: [ADMIN] large table support 32,000,000 rows

2002-03-25 Thread Zhang, Anna



I have 
multi tables with over 10,000, 000 rows, the biggest one is 70, 000, 000 rows. 
For each table, there are several indexes, almost all columns are varchar2. In 
my experiences, with many indexes on large table, data insertion will be a pain. 
In my case, I have 30, 000 rows to be inserted to a table every day, it takes 
hours for each table, if I drop indexes, insertion speeds up, but recreate such 
indexes takes 7 hours. Usually querying data is not the problem, but I think you 
must consider the performance if you have to insert, update data frequently like 
me.
 
Hope 
it helps!
 
Anna 
Zhang

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  2002 5:26 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [ADMIN] large table support 32,000,000 rows
  I have a set of data that will compose a table with 32 million rows.  
  I currently run postgresql with tables as large as 750,000 rows.
  Does anyone have experience with such large tables data.    
  In addition,  I have been reading information on moving postgresql tables 
  to 
  another hard-drive  can anyone advise me.
  Thanks
  
  
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Re: [ADMIN] to --enable-locale or not to --enable-locale?

2002-03-25 Thread Tom Lane

"Niclas Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well I changed LC_ALL to LATIN1 and run initdb, dumped back all the 
> data, but the sorting order seem to wrong still, allthough different, 

> pg_controldata shows:
> LC_COLLATE:   C
> LC_CTYPE: C

"C" is certainly not the locale you want...

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[ADMIN] broken view?

2002-03-25 Thread Jodi Kanter



I had a view set up and then went and had to change one of the tables that 
was referenced in the view. I needed to drop one of the field in this particular 
table so I created a temp table (without the field I wanted to eliminate) and 
then moved the data in. I dropped the original table and thought I was ok.
Today I am getting the following error from any query that tries to access 
the view. 
 
ERROR:  Relation "al_spots" with OID 1132243 no longer exists
 
I assume that this is because the OIDs were changed when I recreated the 
table?
 
So I decided to recreate the view using the new table but when I try to do 
that I get the following error:
 
ERROR:  Attempt to insert rule "_RETam_spots_usf_view" failed: already 
exists
 
I cannot seem to determine what this last error is telling me. Any 
thoughts?
 
Thanks
Jodi Kanter


___Jodi 
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[ADMIN] in addition to last posting

2002-03-25 Thread Jodi Kanter



I should also mention that the view no longer states its definition when \d 
is used.
Thanks
Jodi Kanter


___Jodi 
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Re: [ADMIN] broken view?

2002-03-25 Thread Jodi Kanter



got it workingI was trying to create and rename the view but apparently 
that breaks some sort of link.
It worked when I completely removed the existing view and then recreated 
with original name from scratch.
thanks anyway...
Jodi

  - Original Message - 
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  Jodi 
  Kanter 
  To: Postgres Admin List 
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 2:47 
PM
  Subject: [ADMIN] broken view?
  
  I had a view set up and then went and had to change one of the tables 
  that was referenced in the view. I needed to drop one of the field in this 
  particular table so I created a temp table (without the field I wanted to 
  eliminate) and then moved the data in. I dropped the original table and 
  thought I was ok.
  Today I am getting the following error from any query that tries to 
  access the view. 
   
  ERROR:  Relation "al_spots" with OID 1132243 no longer exists
   
  I assume that this is because the OIDs were changed when I recreated the 
  table?
   
  So I decided to recreate the view using the new table but when I try to 
  do that I get the following error:
   
  ERROR:  Attempt to insert rule "_RETam_spots_usf_view" failed: 
  already exists
   
  I cannot seem to determine what this last error is telling me. Any 
  thoughts?
   
  Thanks
  Jodi Kanter
  
  
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