Re: [ADMIN] deinstallation - reinstallation on Mac OS 10.4

2007-07-24 Thread Christoph Heibl
Thanks a lot for your help! By deleting the pgsql directory I get  
some steps further. Now I get stuck by a error message saying  
"postmaster.pid" already exists, when I try to start postmaster. I am  
not really sure what this means because I think I initiated the  
database only once, but I guess I have to try a little bit more to  
solve this problems.


Best regards,
Christoph Heibl


On 21.07.2007, at 04:40, Sibte Abbas wrote:


On 7/20/07, Christoph Heibl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear experts,

I' ve been trying to mirror the harddisk of my old mac via  
firewire on my
new computer (Intel Core Duo, OS 10.4.10) which resulted fairly  
well expect
that my postgreSQL got screwed up. I then tried to install it once  
more, but

this failed. I guess I did not remove all the remaining files before
installation and I ended up with this failure:

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---

Christoph-Heibls-Computer:~/src/postgresql-8.2.4 Stoffi$
./configure
[]

Christoph-Heibls-Computer:~/src/postgresql-8.2.4 Stoffi$
make

[]  All of PostgreSQL successfully made. Ready to install.

Christoph-Heibls-Computer:~/src/postgresql-8.2.4 Stoffi$
make install
make -C doc install
gzip -d -c ./postgres.tar.gz | ( cd /usr/local/pgsql/doc/html &&
/usr/bin/tar xf - )
/usr/bin/tar: index.html: Cannot open: File exists
/usr/bin/tar: preface.html: Cannot open: File exists
/usr/bin/tar: intro-whatis.html: Cannot open: File exists
/usr/bin/tar: history.html: Cannot open: File exists
/usr/bin/tar: notation.html: Cannot open: File exists
/usr/bin/tar: resources.html: Cannot open: File exists
[]
/usr/bin/tar: bookindex.html: Cannot open: File exists
/usr/bin/tar: LEGALNOTICE.html: Cannot open: File exists
/usr/bin/tar: stylesheet.css: Cannot open: File exists
/usr/bin/tar: Read 2560 bytes from -
/usr/bin/tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
make[1]: *** [install] Error 2
make: *** [install] Error 2

- 
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The files seem to exist already but I simply do not find them.

My questions:
Are there deinstallation protocols for Mac? (I was not able to  
find any...)

How can I find and delete these files?
Or is it something else that hinders me from installing postgres?

I hope to hear from someone who can give me some hints - thanks a  
lot!





Not a Mac guy here, but I think you should try running configure with
a different prefix. For example:

./configure --prefix=/usr/local/pgsql-tmp

This will avoid conflicts with old left over files (if any).

regards,
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[ADMIN] problems installing postgresql on Mandriva linux

2007-07-24 Thread xstang
During installation of postgresql 8.2.4 on Mandriva 2007.1 I get the following 
log after typing 'gmake install'

gmake -C doc install
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/sg/tmp/postgresql-8.2.4/doc'
gzip -d -c ./postgres.tar.gz | ( cd /usr/local/pgsql/doc/html && /bin/tar xf - )
for file in man1/*.1 man7/*.7 ; do \
/bin/sh ../config/install-sh -c -m 644 $file /usr/local/pgsql/man/$file || 
exit; \
done
cp: setting attributes for `/usr/local/pgsql/man/man1/_inst.4301_': Operace 
není podporována {operation/command is not supported}
gmake[1]: *** [install] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/sg/tmp/postgresql-8.2.4/doc'
gmake: *** [install] Error 2

Does anyone have an idea what I can do about i? Thanx
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Re: [ADMIN] deinstallation - reinstallation on Mac OS 10.4

2007-07-24 Thread Shane Ambler

Christoph Heibl wrote:
Thanks a lot for your help! By deleting the pgsql directory I get some 
steps further. Now I get stuck by a error message saying 
"postmaster.pid" already exists, when I try to start postmaster. I am 
not really sure what this means because I think I initiated the database 
only once, but I guess I have to try a little bit more to solve this 
problems.


The existence of postmaster.pid would indicate that postgresql is either 
running or was not stopped properly. If it your sure it isn't running 
then you can delete the .pid file manually.


If you are familiar with the terminal then ps aux | grep postgres will 
list any processes running. If there are any stop postgresql and if the 
.pid file remains delete it then start postgresql.




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Re: [ADMIN] problems installing postgresql on Mandriva linux

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> During installation of postgresql 8.2.4 on Mandriva 2007.1 I get the follow=
> ing log after typing 'gmake install'

> cp: setting attributes for `/usr/local/pgsql/man/man1/_inst.4301_': Operace=
>  nen=C3=AD podporov=C3=A1na {operation/command is not supported}
> gmake[1]: *** [install] Error 1

Weird.  What type of filesystem are you using --- maybe /usr/local is on
FAT32 or something that doesn't support normal Unix-y file permissions?

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] "_" in a serach pattern

2007-07-24 Thread Ben Kim
The only difference is that varchar can have a length limit, text is always 
unlimited length. There's no significant performance difference between 
either. For most intents and purposes, they're equal.


Forgive me for diversion, but out of curiosity, would it make some 
difference whether strings of known length are compared or strings of 
unknown length are compared, like in join condition "using(address)"?


Or, is the actual length stored in a separate field and read first so 
strings of different lengths wouldn't even need to be matched?


Is there some reference on this subject other than the source code?


Thanks.

Ben K.
Developer
http://benix.tamu.edu

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[ADMIN] Set up a database without backup

2007-07-24 Thread tech
Hello everybody.

I’m using PostgreSQL on Windows XP.

I had to format de harddisc, and I’m lost databases and tablespaces
configuration (1 database and 1 tablespace), I have a copy of directory
where was the tablespaces ( but I haven’t a backup made by pgAdmin ).

What do I for set up my database and tablespace ?

It could be: creating a new database and tablespace, and after copy files
of older tablespace to newer tablespace?

Thanks In Advance

With Regards

Juan.



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Re: [ADMIN] varchar vs text columns

2007-07-24 Thread Lew

Andrew Sullivan wrote:

On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 11:33:54AM -0700, Jessica Richard wrote:

What is the difference between varchar and text for a string column?
What is the benefit of using each one?
Is text better than varchar performance wise?


From the manual:

Tip:  There are no performance differences between these
three types, apart from the increased storage size when using
the blank-padded type. While character(n) has performance
advantages in some other database systems, it has no such
advantages in PostgreSQL. In most situations text or
character varying should be used instead.

Note that varchar(n) will have a performance effect, because on
insert or update you have to check to make sure the input doesn't
exceed the specified length.  


See also Peter Koczan's reply in the '"_" in a serach  pattern' thread.

--
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Re: [ADMIN] deinstallation - reinstallation on Mac OS 10.4

2007-07-24 Thread PostgreSQL Admin

run this in the command line

locate postmaster.pid
or
find / -name "postmaster.pid" -print

that should locate any postmaster files and then remove whatever looks 
like the postmaster.pif file


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Re: [ADMIN] Set up a database without backup

2007-07-24 Thread Alejandro D. Burne

2007/7/24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello everybody.

I'm using PostgreSQL on Windows XP.

I had to format de harddisc, and I'm lost databases and tablespaces
configuration (1 database and 1 tablespace), I have a copy of directory
where was the tablespaces ( but I haven't a backup made by pgAdmin ).

What do I for set up my database and tablespace ?

It could be: creating a new database and tablespace, and after copy files
of older tablespace to newer tablespace?

Thanks In Advance

With Regards

Juan.



If u have the dirs where the db where initialized you can reinstall
the "same" version of postgres on your windows machine and then
replace the data dir with your files backup.

Alejandro

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[ADMIN] Data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 8.3

2007-07-24 Thread Phillip Smith
Hi All,

Just tried to recompile (what I thought!) was the same version of PG that I
already had running, to add in the AdminPack to stop pgAdmin complaining
about it being missing.

After recompiling from source, with the Admin Pack (did it on a devel box
first to make sure I was doing the right thing), I did the following:
1. Shutdown PostgreSQL
2. 'gmake install' the recompiled version (same -prefix = /usr/local/pg-8.2)
3. Restart PostgreSQL

Now PostgreSQL complains at me with the following error:
2007-07-25 11:52:05 EST @ []DETAIL:  The data directory was initialized by
PostgreSQL version 8.3, which is not compatible with this version 8.2.4.

As far as I'm aware, 8.3 doesn't exist! The latest version on the
postgresql.org website is 8.2.4

I'm assuming the problem is because the PG_VERSION file in the data
directory says 8.3, so I'm making a copy of the directory, changing that to
8.2 and see if it will start with that.

I can initialize a new data directory and restore last nights backup, but
I'd rather not have to loose everything that's happened in the last 4 hours.

Any advice on what's going on?

Cheers,
~p


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Re: [ADMIN] Data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 8.3

2007-07-24 Thread Phillip Smith
> I'm assuming the problem is because the PG_VERSION file in the data
> directory says 8.3, so I'm making a copy of the directory, changing that
to
> 8.2 and see if it will start with that.

Well that didn't work!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgData-8.2]$ pg_ctl -o '-i' start
server starting
2007-07-25 12:13:25 EST @ []FATAL:  database files are incompatible with
server
2007-07-25 12:13:25 EST @ []DETAIL:  The database cluster was initialized
with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 831, but the server was compiled with
PG_CONTROL_VERSION 822.
2007-07-25 12:13:25 EST @ []HINT:  It looks like you need to initdb.


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Re: [ADMIN] "_" in a serach pattern

2007-07-24 Thread Peter Koczan
Most database systems can figure out the size (in bytes) of a column 
rather quickly from offsets within a record. I doubt that postgres is 
any different. The only difference I can think of is that it might be 
slower to filter out trailing spaces of a char column before comparing, 
though the actual string length may be cached somewhere. Semantically, 
it should be no different. I haven't perused the source code enough to 
know for sure.


Any of the developers that patrol this list can probably answer your 
questions better, especially the question of matching or not matching 
strings of different length.


Peter

Ben Kim wrote:
The only difference is that varchar can have a length limit, text is 
always unlimited length. There's no significant performance 
difference between either. For most intents and purposes, they're equal.


Forgive me for diversion, but out of curiosity, would it make some 
difference whether strings of known length are compared or strings of 
unknown length are compared, like in join condition "using(address)"?


Or, is the actual length stored in a separate field and read first so 
strings of different lengths wouldn't even need to be matched?


Is there some reference on this subject other than the source code?


Thanks.

Ben K.
Developer
http://benix.tamu.edu




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Re: [ADMIN] Data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 8.3

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
"Phillip Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now PostgreSQL complains at me with the following error:
> 2007-07-25 11:52:05 EST @ []DETAIL:  The data directory was initialized by
> PostgreSQL version 8.3, which is not compatible with this version 8.2.4.

> As far as I'm aware, 8.3 doesn't exist!

You seem to have pulled a development snapshot from someplace ...

> I'm assuming the problem is because the PG_VERSION file in the data
> directory says 8.3, so I'm making a copy of the directory, changing that to
> 8.2 and see if it will start with that.

There is exactly 0 chance that that will work.  The PG_VERSION test is
there to save you from worse and more obscure failures involving
incompatible system catalog layouts.

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Re: [ADMIN] Data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 8.3

2007-07-24 Thread Phillip Smith
"Phillip Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Now PostgreSQL complains at me with the following error:
>> 2007-07-25 11:52:05 EST @ []DETAIL:  The data directory was initialized
by
>> PostgreSQL version 8.3, which is not compatible with this version 8.2.4.

>> As far as I'm aware, 8.3 doesn't exist!

> You seem to have pulled a development snapshot from someplace ...

Thanks Tom... I recall you giving me a patch for an error I was having when
I first upgraded to 8.2 but I can't for the life of me remember the error.

Is it worth me trying to fix this stuff up on my behalf? Or should I just go
back to last night's backup and recreate this morning's transactions?


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Re: [ADMIN] Data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 8.3

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
"Phillip Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> 2007-07-25 11:52:05 EST @ []DETAIL:  The data directory was initialized
>>> by
>>> PostgreSQL version 8.3, which is not compatible with this version 8.2.4.

> Is it worth me trying to fix this stuff up on my behalf? Or should I just go
> back to last night's backup and recreate this morning's transactions?

If you can reinstall the server software you had yesterday, do that and
do a pg_dumpall, then install 8.2.4, initdb, reload from dump.

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Re: [ADMIN] Installing PgAdmin package on Linux

2007-07-24 Thread Vishal Arora

HI Ashish,

Try to download the source for Linux installation from the PgAdmin site.
untar and try to complile using ./configure make and make install steps. 
Just test what happens. I too do not see any options give somewhere. you can 
also go through Readme file give with the source binary. I am not on linux 
system these days or else I could have tried and told you.


- Vishal



From: "Ashish Karalkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: [ADMIN] Installing PgAdmin package on Linux
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:54:33 +0530

Hello All,
I am having PostgreSQL server 8.2.0 running on Redhat Linux .
I want to install PgAdmin GUI on the Linux Server.
can anybody please guide me to the appropriate documantation and the 
prerequisite required for the same .

Thanks In Adavnce

With Reagrds
Ashish...


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