[ADMIN] changing default object rights

2008-02-10 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
Dear colleagues,

For the last few hours I tried to implement $subj, to no avail.  I tried to use 
create rule (no grant statement allowed), create function (syntax error on $1), 
etc.

I have roles mng and rdr, and want that any newly created class (table, view, 
seq, index) will be available for wrining to mng and for queriyng to rdr.

Any hints?  Thanks in advance.


Sincerely,
D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
[ FreeBSD committer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

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[ADMIN] Getting "ERROR: canceling autovacuum task"

2008-02-10 Thread Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)
I'm getting this loading some large (1 million row) tables.  Is this 
anything to be concerned about?


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Re: [ADMIN] Postgres Backup and Restore

2008-02-10 Thread Phillip Smith
> Are you sure that the destination database has the same encoding
> declaration as the source did?

That's what I'd be looking at - I had similar problems a few weeks ago. See
this thread:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-admin/2007-12/msg00235.php



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Re: [ADMIN] Postgres Backup and Restore

2008-02-10 Thread Phillip Smith
> > Are you sure that the destination database has the same encoding
> > declaration as the source did?
> 
> That's what I'd be looking at - I had similar problems a few weeks ago.
> See
> this thread:
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-admin/2007-12/msg00235.php

I've been thinking about this, and while I don't agree it's a bug, I think
that perhaps PostgreSQL should raise a notice or warning that the
destination database has different encoding than the file being restored...?

Obviously I'm not the only one (seemingly) caught out by this so I'm sure it
would save some heartache for people.


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Re: [ADMIN] Postgres Backup and Restore

2008-02-10 Thread Phillip Smith
> "Phillip Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I've been thinking about this, and while I don't agree it's a bug, I
> think
> > that perhaps PostgreSQL should raise a notice or warning that the
> > destination database has different encoding than the file being
> restored...?
> 
> If Postgres actually *knows* that the encodings are different, it can
> deal with that.  The cases that are problematic are where the software
> has been misinformed for one reason or another.  I doubt that a warning
> issued (or not) on the basis of misinformation will be especially helpful.

How has the software been misinformed and how can we avoid it then? :)

The start of the pgdump sets the client encoding, so shouldn't that tell PG
that things could get strange?


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Re: [ADMIN] Postgres Backup and Restore

2008-02-10 Thread Tom Lane
"Phillip Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've been thinking about this, and while I don't agree it's a bug, I think
> that perhaps PostgreSQL should raise a notice or warning that the
> destination database has different encoding than the file being restored...?

If Postgres actually *knows* that the encodings are different, it can
deal with that.  The cases that are problematic are where the software
has been misinformed for one reason or another.  I doubt that a warning
issued (or not) on the basis of misinformation will be especially helpful.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] Getting "ERROR: canceling autovacuum task"

2008-02-10 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Dean Gibson (DB Administrator) wrote:
> I'm getting this loading some large (1 million row) tables.  Is this  
> anything to be concerned about?

No, it's normal.  It means the autovacuum task was cancelled in order to
avoid blocking your regular Postgres sessions.

If it's only during table loading, there's no problem -- the table will
be processed later eventually.  If it happens all the time, I would
advise setting a cron job to carry out the vacuum task.

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Re: [ADMIN] Postgres Backup and Restore

2008-02-10 Thread Tom Lane
"Phillip Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How has the software been misinformed and how can we avoid it then? :)

Well, if that were entirely clear then we could fix it.

> The start of the pgdump sets the client encoding, so shouldn't that tell PG
> that things could get strange?

The problems seem to arise when the data doesn't actually have the
claimed encoding.  We've been gradually tightening the encoding checks
over the years, so data that older versions let pass without comment
might now be recognized as malformed.  In the OP's case there may be
something else going on (such as an actual encoding-conversion bug).
I've encouraged him to try to trace things forward from his original
input data and see if we can find out exactly where it went off the
rails.

regards, tom lane

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