Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [DOCS] Windows CHM format for the documents
Dave Page wrote: > > I have added that to the Win32 project page: > > > > pgAdmin already has the complete document set in chm format. The > contents files etc can be found at > http://cvs.pgadmin.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pgadmin3/docs/en_US/. Where is the actual CHM file at that URL? -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [DOCS] Windows CHM format for the documents
Andreas Pflug wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > >Dave Page wrote: > > > > > >>>I have added that to the Win32 project page: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>pgAdmin already has the complete document set in chm format. The > >>contents files etc can be found at > >>http://cvs.pgadmin.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pgadmin3/docs/en_US/. > >> > >> > > > >Where is the actual CHM file at that URL? > > > > > Dave removed it from cvs, it can now be found at > > http://snake.pgadmin.org/snapshots/help/en_US/pgadmin3.chm Perfect. URL updated. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [DOCS] Windows CHM format for the documents
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> I'm not sure if it would be a bad thing to give up DocBook, but I cannot see
> anything but benefits from using this other type of document development...
I cannot see anything but problems from using this.
- The current usage allows people to work on documents as files, using
whatever editing tools they like. With your "server software," that
is lost.
- Current usage uses CVS to manage changes. This allows changes to be
looked at and approved/rejected/modified. I haven't any idea if
your system uses text files in behind, it sounds like not.
- Current usage does not mandate that anyone have a synchronous
connection to a central server that becomes bottleneck / vulnerable
point.
The apparent "benefit" of your tool is that it provides a tool with a
user interface that slavishly follows the Windows "CHM file" viewer.
That may be an advantage to those that want to slavishly follow
Windows development/deployment "standards," but I daresay you're NOT
in a community that is particularly interested in that sort of thing.
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Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [DOCS] Windows CHM format for the documents
Bruce Momjian wrote: Dave Page wrote: I have added that to the Win32 project page: pgAdmin already has the complete document set in chm format. The contents files etc can be found at http://cvs.pgadmin.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pgadmin3/docs/en_US/. Where is the actual CHM file at that URL? Dave removed it from cvs, it can now be found at http://snake.pgadmin.org/snapshots/help/en_US/pgadmin3.chm Regards, Andreas ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [DOCS] Windows CHM format for the documents
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dave Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PostgreSQL Win32 port list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [DOCS] Windows CHM format for the documents > Dave Page wrote: > > > I have added that to the Win32 project page: > > > > > > > pgAdmin already has the complete document set in chm format. The > > contents files etc can be found at > > http://cvs.pgadmin.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pgadmin3/docs/en_US/. > > Where is the actual CHM file at that URL? http://cvs.pgadmin.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pgadmin3/docs/en_US/pgadmin3.hhp http://cvs.pgadmin.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pgadmin3/docs/en_US/pgadmin3.hhc Are CHM project files. There is no CHM file, because it is compiled in Make process. You'll have to remove few pages that are actually pgadmin's help, but it is much easier then write it again. Pgadmin's help is organized in the way that postgresql pages are under "pg" subdirectory, but this is nothing that simple "find-replace" cant solve. If You wish, I'll do that, and send You the clear postgresql project files. Regards ! ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [DOCS] Windows CHM format for the documents
> - The current usage allows people to work on documents as files, using > whatever editing tools they like. With your "server software," that > is lost. Yes, it is harder to use any tool for editing (though not impossible,copy/paste could be used :-). There are benefits from using the same tool too - the output will probably look the same throughout the document. The central server idea emphasizes this even more I think ... and the programmatically (sp?) :-) > - Current usage uses CVS to manage changes. This allows changes to be > looked at and approved/rejected/modified. I haven't any idea if > your system uses text files in behind, it sounds like not. Creating some of the CVS features wouldn't be a problem at all. For example storing certain situations (labeling) would be a good idea (of course the current backuping could be used for this as well). > - Current usage does not mandate that anyone have a synchronous > connection to a central server that becomes bottleneck / vulnerable > point. Yes, well, nowadays most people have fixed lines (in the future more so), I wouldn't count this a big drawback. > The apparent "benefit" of your tool is that it provides a tool with a > user interface that slavishly follows the Windows "CHM file" viewer. > That may be an advantage to those that want to slavishly follow > Windows development/deployment "standards," but I daresay you're NOT > in a community that is particularly interested in that sort of thing. I'm far away from favoring any particular OS. Personally I have done more Unix/Linux development than Windows. But as long as this shouldn't be an OS war forum, I think all OSs pretty much suck at some things, and are good at others. CHM is only one choice for output, and besides it's not only for Windows. http://xchm.sourceforge.net/ there's a CHM viewer for Linux. There are more similar kinds of viewers with slightly different file format, but they do the same. I think that CHM has its advantages and I like using them. I'm fine if you want to use your tools, and sorry if I bothered you...It was just an option that I presented and you have given some good feedback of it. Ilkka ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [DOCS] Windows CHM format for the documents
Dave Page wrote: > > > http://snake.pgadmin.org/snapshots/help/en_US/pgadmin3.chm > > > > Perfect. URL updated. > > Hang on, what URL? That's one of our dev boxs which has limited > bandwidth - I'm happy for us to provide the hhp/hhk files for public > consumption, but I'd rather not advertise a url to a 2+Mb file on that > particular machine. > > Darko - in another email you offered to make a pgAdmin-free version. If > you can do that, I will put the project files and resulting chm file on > www.postgresql.org. Give me the updated URL when you have it. I don't expect many people to download the file, but I would bet web searchers might hit it. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
