[DOCS] Moving FAQs to PgFoundry

2005-12-12 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

Hi Bruce,

As you know, Peter moved the translation stuff to PgFoundry. As a
translator, I'm happy to commit to there since I can do it whenever I
want -- better than sending to the list each time I update.

What about doing the same for FAQ translations? We may have a chance to
assign several translators to each FAQ and we may easily keep them
up2date. The website can be configured to pull them from CVS.

I can assist you during this moving process, if you want.

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Re: [DOCS] Moving FAQs to PgFoundry

2005-12-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
> Hi Bruce,
> 
> As you know, Peter moved the translation stuff to PgFoundry. 
> As a translator, I'm happy to commit to there since I can do 
> it whenever I want -- better than sending to the list each 
> time I update.
> 
> What about doing the same for FAQ translations? We may have a 
> chance to assign several translators to each FAQ and we may 
> easily keep them up2date. The website can be configured to 
> pull them from CVS.
> 
> I can assist you during this moving process, if you want.

If we're moving it to a different cvs, perhaps we should consider moving
them directly into the website cvs?

//Magnus

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Re: [DOCS] Moving FAQs to PgFoundry

2005-12-12 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 15:36 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
 
> > What about doing the same for FAQ translations? We may have a 
> > chance to assign several translators to each FAQ and we may 
> > easily keep them up2date. The website can be configured to 
> > pull them from CVS.
> > 
> > I can assist you during this moving process, if you want.
> 
> If we're moving it to a different cvs, perhaps we should consider moving
> them directly into the website cvs?

This is not directly related with the website development I think. They
are also in main source code. So a seperate CVS would be cool IMHO, like
translations as I wrote before.

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Re: [DOCS] Moving FAQs to PgFoundry

2005-12-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
> > > What about doing the same for FAQ translations? We may 
> have a chance 
> > > to assign several translators to each FAQ and we may easily keep 
> > > them up2date. The website can be configured to pull them from CVS.
> > > 
> > > I can assist you during this moving process, if you want.
> > 
> > If we're moving it to a different cvs, perhaps we should consider 
> > moving them directly into the website cvs?
> 
> This is not directly related with the website development I 
> think. They are also in main source code. So a seperate CVS 
> would be cool IMHO, like translations as I wrote before.

No, but it is directly related to website content.
If we'd move them to a different cvs (be that web or separate project),
I'd expect them to go away from main cvs? Is there any actual point in
keeping them in more than one place?

//Magnus

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Re: [DOCS] Moving FAQs to PgFoundry

2005-12-12 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 15:56 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:

> If we'd move them to a different cvs (be that web or separate project),
> I'd expect them to go away from main cvs? Is there any actual point in
> keeping them in more than one place?

As done in translation project, the main website will pull from the
other CVS. Here we need to mail to Bruce to update the FAQs, etc. Now we
will be able to commit to another CVS.

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Re: [DOCS] Moving FAQs to PgFoundry

2005-12-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 15:56 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> 
> > If we'd move them to a different cvs (be that web or separate project),
> > I'd expect them to go away from main cvs? Is there any actual point in
> > keeping them in more than one place?
> 
> As done in translation project, the main website will pull from the
> other CVS. Here we need to mail to Bruce to update the FAQs, etc. Now we
> will be able to commit to another CVS.

The only trick is that release packaging will need to pull from that
CVS.  I think right now Peter pulls the *.po files manually from there
to the source CVS, right?

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Re: [DOCS] Moving FAQs to PgFoundry

2005-12-12 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Magnus Hagander wrote:


What about doing the same for FAQ translations? We may

have a chance

to assign several translators to each FAQ and we may easily keep
them up2date. The website can be configured to pull them from CVS.

I can assist you during this moving process, if you want.


If we're moving it to a different cvs, perhaps we should consider
moving them directly into the website cvs?


This is not directly related with the website development I
think. They are also in main source code. So a seperate CVS
would be cool IMHO, like translations as I wrote before.


No, but it is directly related to website content.
If we'd move them to a different cvs (be that web or separate project),
I'd expect them to go away from main cvs? Is there any actual point in
keeping them in more than one place?


Stupid question here, but Devrim's idea is that ppl can be easily added to 
CVS with write permissions to update/modify the various translations, 
without having to submit patches ...


Do you *really* want a bunch of ppl with write access to the main web site 
CVS? :)



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Re: [DOCS] Moving FAQs to PgFoundry

2005-12-12 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:


Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 15:56 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:


If we'd move them to a different cvs (be that web or separate project),
I'd expect them to go away from main cvs? Is there any actual point in
keeping them in more than one place?


As done in translation project, the main website will pull from the
other CVS. Here we need to mail to Bruce to update the FAQs, etc. Now we
will be able to commit to another CVS.


The only trick is that release packaging will need to pull from that
CVS.  I think right now Peter pulls the *.po files manually from there
to the source CVS, right?


Actually, if I know where to pull from, adding that sort of thing to the 
build scripts isn't that hard ... in fact, I've suggested this in so far 
as pulling in stuff like JDBC into the main tar ball as well, where we 
could pull in a specific 'tag branch' when building ... just means that 
the JDBC folks, as an example, would have to create a tag that we could 
use for that specific purpose ...



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Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Please Help: PostgreSQL Query Optimizer

2005-12-12 Thread Josh Berkus
Anjan,

> But, in PostgreSQL  all costs are  scaled relative to a page fetch. If we
> make both sequential_page_fetch_cost and random_page_cost to "1", then  we
> need to increase the various cpu_* paramters by multiplying the default
> values with appropriate  Scaling Factor.  Now, we need to determine this
> Scaling Factor.

I see, so you're saying that because the real cost of a page fetch has 
decreased, the CPU_* costs should increase proportionally because relative to 
the real costs of a page fetch they should be higher?  That makes a sort of 
sense.

The problem that you're going to run into is that currently we have no 
particularly reason to believe that the various cpu_* costs are more than 
very approximately correct as rules of thumb.  So I think you'd be a lot 
better off trying to come up with some means of computing the real cpu costs 
of each operation, rather than trying to calculate a multiple of numbers 
which may be wrong in the first place.

I know that someone on this list was working on a tool to digest EXPLAIN 
ANALYZE results and run statistics on them.   Can't remember who, though.

Also, I'm still curious on how you're handling shared_mem, work_mem and 
maintenance_mem.  You didn't answer last time.

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