Re: [DOCS] Get docs for contrib on the web somewhere

2006-03-17 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 02:05:44PM -0800, David Fetter wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 01:50:47PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > It would be nice if there was an easy place to see the documentation
> > for the various contrib projects.  Would this be hard to setup?  I
> > think the plain text would be fine, just need to post the readme's
> > somewhere and link to them.
> 
> http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/contrib/ has at least
> the raw files.  I'd be delighted to put up something more, tho :)

Yeah, but very few people would ever think to look in CVS for
documentation. I think it'd be much better if we could include the
README's in the documentation build process somehow...
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Re: [DOCS] Get docs for contrib on the web somewhere

2006-03-17 Thread David Fetter
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:22:44PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 02:05:44PM -0800, David Fetter wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 01:50:47PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > > It would be nice if there was an easy place to see the documentation
> > > for the various contrib projects.  Would this be hard to setup?  I
> > > think the plain text would be fine, just need to post the readme's
> > > somewhere and link to them.
> > 
> > http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/contrib/ has at least
> > the raw files.  I'd be delighted to put up something more, tho :)
> 
> Yeah, but very few people would ever think to look in CVS for
> documentation. I think it'd be much better if we could include the
> README's in the documentation build process somehow...

I'm all for it.  Do you have an idea of how this might work?  I
suppose some kind of idiot conversion of READMEs to man pages might be
appropriate.  Dunno about what would happen on Windows.  Um, help?

Cheers,
D
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Re: [DOCS] Get docs for contrib on the web somewhere

2006-03-17 Thread Robert Treat
On Friday 17 March 2006 13:40, David Fetter wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:22:44PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 02:05:44PM -0800, David Fetter wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 01:50:47PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > > > It would be nice if there was an easy place to see the documentation
> > > > for the various contrib projects.  Would this be hard to setup?  I
> > > > think the plain text would be fine, just need to post the readme's
> > > > somewhere and link to them.
> > >
> > > http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/contrib/ has at least
> > > the raw files.  I'd be delighted to put up something more, tho :)
> >
> > Yeah, but very few people would ever think to look in CVS for
> > documentation. I think it'd be much better if we could include the
> > README's in the documentation build process somehow...
>
> I'm all for it.  Do you have an idea of how this might work?  I
> suppose some kind of idiot conversion of READMEs to man pages might be
> appropriate.  Dunno about what would happen on Windows.  Um, help?
>

Could we require contrib authors to provide their documentation as sgml, and 
then have the doc build process loop in each contrib module as an appendix 
inside the official docs? 

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Re: [DOCS] Get docs for contrib on the web somewhere

2006-03-17 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 04:19:58PM -0500, Robert Treat wrote:
> > > Yeah, but very few people would ever think to look in CVS for
> > > documentation. I think it'd be much better if we could include the
> > > README's in the documentation build process somehow...
> >
> > I'm all for it.  Do you have an idea of how this might work?  I
> > suppose some kind of idiot conversion of READMEs to man pages might be
> > appropriate.  Dunno about what would happen on Windows.  Um, help?
> >
> 
> Could we require contrib authors to provide their documentation as sgml, and 
> then have the doc build process loop in each contrib module as an appendix 
> inside the official docs? 

Can't we just copy the text files over somewhere?

Actually, there was talk of improving the way that the contrib installs
handled the README's, so maybe part of that could be used here.
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Re: [DOCS] Get docs for contrib on the web somewhere

2006-03-17 Thread Tom Lane
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 04:19:58PM -0500, Robert Treat wrote:
>> Could we require contrib authors to provide their documentation as sgml, and
>> then have the doc build process loop in each contrib module as an appendix 
>> inside the official docs? 

> Can't we just copy the text files over somewhere?

I think the entire point of contrib is that it's "not ready for prime
time" code, and one of the ways in which it's likely to be not ready
is not having sgml-format documentation.

If someone wants to step up and do the work to convert the existing
contrib doc files to sgml, I certainly won't stand in the way --- but
I'm not prepared to remove contrib entries just because they don't have
sgml-format docs.

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Re: [DOCS] Get docs for contrib on the web somewhere

2006-03-17 Thread Robert Treat
On Saturday 18 March 2006 02:00, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 04:19:58PM -0500, Robert Treat wrote:
> >> Could we require contrib authors to provide their documentation as sgml,
> >> and then have the doc build process loop in each contrib module as an
> >> appendix inside the official docs?
> >
> > Can't we just copy the text files over somewhere?
>
> I think the entire point of contrib is that it's "not ready for prime
> time" code, and one of the ways in which it's likely to be not ready
> is not having sgml-format documentation.
>
> If someone wants to step up and do the work to convert the existing
> contrib doc files to sgml, I certainly won't stand in the way --- but
> I'm not prepared to remove contrib entries just because they don't have
> sgml-format docs.
>

Well sure... I'd probably be willing to help out with that, considering that 
(in theory) we're going to be removing some of them anyway, so that would cut 
down on the work. And this could be a requirement for future contrib items. I 
think the real question is would someone be willing to step up and fix the 
build process to pull these items into the main docs if they were to be 
converted to sgml. I think that's the harder of the two problems to solve. 

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