Re: [DOCS] [SQL] pl/PgSQL, variable names in NEW

2008-04-10 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Martin Edlman wrote:

> |> I don't want to rewrite whole trigger to plPerl as I would have to use
> |> DBD-PgSPI.
> |
> | Huh?  Certainly not -- there are functions in PL/Perl for this.  See
> | spi_exec_query in
> | http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/plperl-database.html
>
> Oh, I see. I have read the doc "...can be done via the function
> spi_exec_query described below, or via an experimental module
> DBD::PgSPI...", but missed the "OR" and thought that DBD::PgSPI is
> mandatory.

Yeah, that's a bit confusing.  I don't know why we have a mention of
DBD::PgSPI on the plperl manual at all.  Is there anything it can do
that can't be done with PL/Perl native calls?

Question for plperl hackers:  Should we remove the mention of DBD::PgSPI
from the PL/Perl manual?

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Re: [DOCS] Patch for pg_backend_pid

2008-04-10 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Decibel! wrote:
> If I were to look in the docs for this function, I would think to look in 
> system information functions way before monitoring, so I've added 
> documentation there as well.

Applied, thanks.

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Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] [SQL] pl/PgSQL, variable names in NEW

2008-04-10 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Question for plperl hackers:  Should we remove the mention of DBD::PgSPI
> from the PL/Perl manual?

It seems like a reasonable suggestion to me, since perl database users
probably already know DBD and don't have to learn something new if they
go that way.

Possibly the text should be reworded, with the mention of DBD::PgSPI put
somewhere else or stuck into a  or something.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] [SQL] pl/PgSQL, variable names in NEW

2008-04-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:45:25 -0400
Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Question for plperl hackers:  Should we remove the mention of
> > DBD::PgSPI from the PL/Perl manual?
> 
> It seems like a reasonable suggestion to me, since perl database users
> probably already know DBD and don't have to learn something new if
> they go that way.
> 
> Possibly the text should be reworded, with the mention of DBD::PgSPI
> put somewhere else or stuck into a  or something.

From what I can see on CPAN (unless I am missing something) DBD::PgSPI
hasn't been updated since 2004 and is at version 0.2.

http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/DBD/

I think it can safely be removed in entirety from our manuals.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake


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Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] [SQL] pl/PgSQL, variable names in NEW

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Dunstan



Joshua D. Drake wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:45:25 -0400
Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Question for plperl hackers:  Should we remove the mention of
DBD::PgSPI from the PL/Perl manual?
  

It seems like a reasonable suggestion to me, since perl database users
probably already know DBD and don't have to learn something new if
they go that way.

Possibly the text should be reworded, with the mention of DBD::PgSPI
put somewhere else or stuck into a  or something.



From what I can see on CPAN (unless I am missing something) DBD::PgSPI
hasn't been updated since 2004 and is at version 0.2.

http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/DBD/

I think it can safely be removed in entirety from our manuals.


  


+1. It's also GNU licensed, so we can't include it. A clean room BSD 
licensed implementation would be a nice addition, but it really doesn't 
buy you much in functionality that you don't already have.


cheers

andrew

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Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] [SQL] pl/PgSQL, variable names in NEW

2008-04-10 Thread Tom Lane
"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From what I can see on CPAN (unless I am missing something) DBD::PgSPI
> hasn't been updated since 2004 and is at version 0.2.

Oh, if it's not a live project then that changes things entirely.
+1 for just dropping the mention.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] [SQL] pl/PgSQL, variable names in NEW

2008-04-10 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tom Lane wrote:
> "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > From what I can see on CPAN (unless I am missing something) DBD::PgSPI
> > hasn't been updated since 2004 and is at version 0.2.
> 
> Oh, if it's not a live project then that changes things entirely.
> +1 for just dropping the mention.

Done.

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