Re: [DOCS] Postgres Sql7.3 Update

2009-09-03 Thread Greg Stark
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM,
kunwarpal.rawat wrote:
> Dear Support Team,
>
>
>
> I am currently using postgresql version 7.3 and I want to upgrade this
> version.
>
> So, can you please help me regarding the
>
> 1.   List of upgrades/patches/service packs available to update the
> postgresql 7.3 version

There were 21 patch releases available for 7.3. You can see the list
on this page and see what bugs and security holes they fixed:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/appendixes.html

However you should realize that 7.3.21 came out a year and a half ago
and was the end of life for 7.3. If any further bugs or security holes
have been found they would not generally be fixed. Users are advised
to upgrade to a supported release.


> 2.   The list of feature that’s updating in each new version of the
> software.

That same link has the release notes for versions 7.4, 8.0, 8.1, 8.2,
8.3, and 8.4 along with all the patch releases for them. It will take
a long time to read as you're talking about 6 years of development.

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Re: [DOCS] Postgres Sql7.3 Update

2009-09-03 Thread David Fetter
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:03:35PM +0100, Greg Stark wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM,
> kunwarpal.rawat wrote:
> > Dear Support Team,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am currently using postgresql version 7.3 and I want to upgrade this
> > version.
> >
> > So, can you please help me regarding the
> >
> > 1.   List of upgrades/patches/service packs available to update the
> > postgresql 7.3 version
> 
> There were 21 patch releases available for 7.3. You can see the list
> on this page and see what bugs and security holes they fixed:
> 
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/appendixes.html
> 
> However you should realize that 7.3.21 came out a year and a half ago
> and was the end of life for 7.3. If any further bugs or security holes
> have been found they would not generally be fixed.

With all due respect, you should not have put any qualifiers in that
sentence.  7.3 is as dead a King Charles, and if someone finds a
remote root exploit in it, it will not be fixed.

> Users are advised to upgrade to a supported release.

In the sense that people sailing in small boats on rough water are
"advised" to wear a life vest, yes.

> > 2.   The list of feature that’s updating in each new version
> > of the software.
> 
> That same link has the release notes for versions 7.4, 8.0, 8.1,
> 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 along with all the patch releases for them. It
> will take a long time to read as you're talking about 6 years of
> development.

It's a really, really good idea to build major version upgrades into
your development, deployment and maintenance processes.

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Re: [DOCS] Postgres Sql7.3 Update

2009-09-03 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:09 AM,
kunwarpal.rawat wrote:
> Dear Support Team,
>
> I am currently using postgresql version 7.3 and I want to upgrade this
> version.

I'm gonna assume you mean upgrade off of 7.3 to a newer version.  That
would be a good idea.  7.3 is really old, unsupported and pretty slow
compared to newer versions.

> So, can you please help me regarding the
>
> 1.   List of upgrades/patches/service packs available to update the
> postgresql 7.3 version

PostgreSQL isn't generally "patched" like Oracle, but has new releases
generally available through packages.  There's also the one click
installers and building from source.

So, what OS are you running, and how was pgsql installed?

> 2.   The list of feature that’s updating in each new version of the
> software.

For an upgrade from 7.3 to 8.4??? Way too many to list in one post.
For an update like 7.3.1 to 7.3.21, there aren't any feature
enhancements really, since feature enhancements are generally limited
to new releases (i.e. 8.0.x to 8.1.x).

Basically, the biggest feature enhancements from each major release
since 7.3 has been more performance, and overall improvement of the
dbms in terms of things like vacuuming and recovery and more.

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Re: [DOCS] Postgres Sql7.3 Update

2009-09-03 Thread Jaime Casanova
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:09 AM,
kunwarpal.rawat wrote:
>
> 2.   The list of feature that’s updating in each new version of the
> software.
>

http://www.postgresql.org/about/featurematrix

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Re: [DOCS] Postgres Sql7.3 Update

2009-09-03 Thread Christopher Browne
[email protected] ("kunwarpal.rawat") writes:
>  > I am currently using postgresql version 7.3 and I want to upgrade this 
> version.
>
> So, can you please help me regarding the
>
> 1.   List of upgrades/patches/service packs available to update the
> postgresql 7.3 version

It's no longer a supported version, so you'll not find very much that's
specific to 7.3.

Since 7.3.21, released over a year ago, was the last update, it is
highly likely that you will want to upgrade to something rather less
dramatically out of date than 7.3.

Upgrading to 8.4 (the latest stable release) would involve, at least in
general terms:
 - Dumping the 7.3 database using pg_dump from 8.4
   (It's possible that the 8.4 pg_dump is "too new" and doesn't still
remember all the details of any oddities of 7.3; you'll want to test
this, and might discover you need to go thru some interim version to
get to what you finally want to be on)

 - Loading that into the new DB

There may be changes needed to such things as:
 - data types (though I don't think there'll be *too* much - 
   a lot of the scary such changes were between 6.5 and 7.0)

 - queries may need to be revised, as recent versions are sometimes
   stricter about what kinds of data may be joined/compared

> 2.   The list of feature that?s updating in each new version of the
> software.

See:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/release.html
which points you to:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/release-8-4.html
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/release-8-3.html
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/release-8-2.html
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/release-8-1.html
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/release-8-0.html
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/release-7-4.html
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/release-7-3.html

There's a lot of reading to do!
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Re: [DOCS] [GENERAL] What happens when syslog gets blocked?

2009-09-03 Thread Alvaro Herrera
decibel wrote:
> On Aug 6, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Bill Moran wrote:

> >Well ... "life better" really depends on which failure scenario you're
> >more comfortable with ... personally, I'd rather lose log messages
> >than
> >have the DB system go down.  Of course, if auditing is critical to
> >your
> >scenario, then your priorities are different ...
> 
> Bingo. I'm thinking we should make mention of this in the docs...

I propose the following patch.

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RCS file: /home/alvherre/Code/cvs/pgsql/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml,v
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diff -c -p -r1.224 config.sgml
*** doc/src/sgml/config.sgml	24 Aug 2009 20:08:31 -	1.224
--- doc/src/sgml/config.sgml	3 Sep 2009 22:03:00 -
*** local0.*/var/log/postgresql
*** 2408,2413 
--- 2408,2426 
   is dynamic-linker failure messages).
   This parameter can only be set at server start.
 
+ 
+
+ 
+   The logging collector is designed to never lose messages.  This means
+   that in case of extremely high load, server processes could be
+   blocked due to trying to send additional log messages when the
+   collector has fallen behind.  In contrast, syslog
+   prefers to drop messages if it cannot write them, which means it's
+   less reliable in those cases but it will not block the rest of the
+   system.
+ 
+
+ 

   
  

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