Re: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Thom Brown  wrote:
> On 10 October 2011 19:15, Thom Brown  wrote:
>> On 10 October 2011 17:52, Thom Brown  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I notice that the links to both the Linux PAM page and Solaris PAM
>>> page are broken in our documentation.  The bottom of the
>>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/auth-methods.html page
>>> points to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ and
>>> http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/.  The former is broken, the
>>> latter redirects to some generic Oracle page.
>>>
>>> I can't find a suitable candidates for substitution.  I found
>>> http://linux.die.net/man/8/pam.d and
>>> http://dsc.sun.com/solaris/articles/user_auth_solaris3.html but
>>> nothing to directly replace them.  Any ideas?
>>
>> Found a link to a site which contains identical Linux PAM information:
>> http://kernel.osuosl.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-module-reference.html
>>
>> But even so, I have sent an email to kernel.org notifying them of the
>> missing pages.
>
> No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
> still have 2 broken links.

I'm happy to commit a doc patch if you have one, but otherwise I'm not
sure what we can do.

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Fwd: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

2011-10-28 Thread Alvaro Herrera

Andrew, Thorsten,

What's the best place to link to the Linux PAM docs now that the
kernel.org copy is gone?

Thanks

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From: Thom Brown 
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:52:36 -0300
Subject: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

Hi all,

I notice that the links to both the Linux PAM page and Solaris PAM
page are broken in our documentation.  The bottom of the
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/auth-methods.html page
points to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ and
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/.  The former is broken, the
latter redirects to some generic Oracle page.

I can't find a suitable candidates for substitution.  I found
http://linux.die.net/man/8/pam.d and
http://dsc.sun.com/solaris/articles/user_auth_solaris3.html but
nothing to directly replace them.  Any ideas?

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Re: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

2011-10-28 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas  writes:
>> No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
>> still have 2 broken links.

Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
doc change would have wide distribution?  AFAIK they're just cleaning up
from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

2011-10-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake


On 10/28/2011 03:29 PM, Tom Lane wrote:

Robert Haas  writes:

No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
still have 2 broken links.


Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
doc change would have wide distribution?  AFAIK they're just cleaning up
from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.


That is my understanding as well.

JD



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Re: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

2011-10-28 Thread Thom Brown
On 28 October 2011 23:29, Tom Lane  wrote:
> Robert Haas  writes:
>>> No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
>>> still have 2 broken links.
>
> Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
> doc change would have wide distribution?  AFAIK they're just cleaning up
> from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.

I had considered that, but then I haven't seen any progress.  The site
has been back up for a while, but there doesn't seem to have been much
advancement in restoring the documentation in question.  I also
haven't had any feedback from kernel.org with regards to any plan to
restore these docs.  I guess this can be revisited in the new year to
see if the situation has changed.

But as for the sun.com links, I don't see those coming back at all.
Those have either been relocated to a secret uncrawlable location, or
it's been deleted.  They did exist at least until June this year
(http://web.archive.org/web/20110604010813/http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/)
but have since been purged for some unknown reason.

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Re: [DOCS] Link to PAM pages broken

2011-10-28 Thread Thom Brown
On 29 October 2011 02:04, Thom Brown  wrote:
> On 28 October 2011 23:29, Tom Lane  wrote:
>> Robert Haas  writes:
 No response from kernel.org and the link still doesn't work, so we
 still have 2 broken links.
>>
>> Is it unreasonable to assume that kernel.org will come back before any
>> doc change would have wide distribution?  AFAIK they're just cleaning up
>> from an intrusion, they have not shut down permanently.
>
> I had considered that, but then I haven't seen any progress.  The site
> has been back up for a while, but there doesn't seem to have been much
> advancement in restoring the documentation in question.  I also
> haven't had any feedback from kernel.org with regards to any plan to
> restore these docs.  I guess this can be revisited in the new year to
> see if the situation has changed.
>
> But as for the sun.com links, I don't see those coming back at all.
> Those have either been relocated to a secret uncrawlable location, or
> it's been deleted.  They did exist at least until June this year
> (http://web.archive.org/web/20110604010813/http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/)
> but have since been purged for some unknown reason.

Having just sent that message, I suddenly stumbled upon this which
might be worth linking to for Solaris:

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19082-01/819-3321/pam-1/index.html

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