Re: Confusing error message in 15.6

2024-05-22 Thread Laurenz Albe
On Tue, 2024-05-21 at 23:58 +, Dmitry O Litvintsev wrote:

> > > I am observing the following error which confuses me:
> > >
> > > #  psql -U postgres template1 -c "checkpoint; select 
> > > pg_backup_start('${dest}.tar.Z', true)"
> > > CHECKPOINT
> > >  pg_backup_start
> > > -
> > >  17BF7/3009498
> > > (1 row)
> > > 
> > > #  psql -U postgres template1 -c "select pg_backup_stop(true)"
> > > ERROR:  backup is not in progress
> > > HINT:  Did you call pg_backup_start()?
> > >
> > > This is postgresql 15.6 running on RH 7.
> >
> > Yep, nowadays you must keep the transaction where you issued backup start 
> > open until
> > you issue backup end.  Using -c isn't going to cut it.
>
> Oops. This means major rewrite of my backup procedure.  Thanks for pointing
> this out. I will likely just switch to pg_basebackup. What I have is
> something old and gnarly from the days of psql version 8.

You could try https://github.com/cybertec-postgresql/safe-backup
to make the transition smoother.

Yours,
Laurenz Albe





Re: Confusing error message in 15.6

2024-05-21 Thread Dmitry O Litvintsev
Oops. This means major rewrite of my backup procedure.  Thanks for pointing 
this out. I will likely just switch to pg_basebackup. What I have is something 
old and gnarly from the days of psql version 8.


From: David G. Johnston 
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 6:42 PM
To: Dmitry O Litvintsev
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Subject: Re: Confusing error message in 15.6

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On Tue, May 21, 2024, 17:29 Dmitry O Litvintsev 
mailto:litvi...@fnal.gov>> wrote:
Hi,

I am observing the following error which confuses me:

#  psql -U postgres template1 -c "checkpoint; select 
pg_backup_start('${dest}.tar.Z', true)"
CHECKPOINT
 pg_backup_start
-
 17BF7/3009498
(1 row)

#  psql -U postgres template1 -c "select pg_backup_stop(true)"
ERROR:  backup is not in progress
HINT:  Did you call pg_backup_start()?

This is postgresql 15.6 running on RH 7.

This is not just amusing, it is breaking my backup script after update from 11 
to 15 (and change from pg_{start,stop}_backup to pg_backup_{start_stop})


Yep, nowadays you must keep the transaction where you issued backup start open 
until you issue backup end.  Using -c isn't going to cut it.

David J.




Re: Confusing error message in 15.6

2024-05-21 Thread David G. Johnston
On Tuesday, May 21, 2024, David G. Johnston 
wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2024, 17:29 Dmitry O Litvintsev  wrote:
>
>>
>> This is not just amusing, it is breaking my backup script after update
>> from 11 to 15 (and change from pg_{start,stop}_backup to
>> pg_backup_{start_stop})
>>
>
>
> Yep, nowadays you must keep the transaction where you issued backup start
> open until you issue backup end.  Using -c isn't going to cut it.
>
>
Right, it’s only the connection, not a transaction.


https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/continuous-archiving.html#BACKUP-LOWLEVEL-BASE-BACKUP

And this is why the name changed, because the behavior is so different.

David J.


Re: Confusing error message in 15.6

2024-05-21 Thread David G. Johnston
On Tue, May 21, 2024, 17:29 Dmitry O Litvintsev  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am observing the following error which confuses me:
>
> #  psql -U postgres template1 -c "checkpoint; select
> pg_backup_start('${dest}.tar.Z', true)"
> CHECKPOINT
>  pg_backup_start
> -
>  17BF7/3009498
> (1 row)
>
> #  psql -U postgres template1 -c "select pg_backup_stop(true)"
> ERROR:  backup is not in progress
> HINT:  Did you call pg_backup_start()?
>
> This is postgresql 15.6 running on RH 7.
>
> This is not just amusing, it is breaking my backup script after update
> from 11 to 15 (and change from pg_{start,stop}_backup to
> pg_backup_{start_stop})
>


Yep, nowadays you must keep the transaction where you issued backup start
open until you issue backup end.  Using -c isn't going to cut it.

David J.

>


Confusing error message in 15.6

2024-05-21 Thread Dmitry O Litvintsev
Hi, 

I am observing the following error which confuses me:

#  psql -U postgres template1 -c "checkpoint; select 
pg_backup_start('${dest}.tar.Z', true)"
CHECKPOINT
 pg_backup_start 
-
 17BF7/3009498
(1 row)

#  psql -U postgres template1 -c "select pg_backup_stop(true)" 
ERROR:  backup is not in progress
HINT:  Did you call pg_backup_start()?

This is postgresql 15.6 running on RH 7. 

This is not just amusing, it is breaking my backup script after update from 11 
to 15 (and change from pg_{start,stop}_backup to pg_backup_{start_stop})

Thanks,
Dmitry