[GENERAL] Comment for column in view - legal or just working?

2007-08-08 Thread Harald Armin Massa
Using PostgreSQL 8.1.8 on Windows.

I have one named listedi in schema cust; that view has one column name

No I used

comment on cust.listedi.name is 'MyDescriptive Name';

and the command suceeded. Using \d+ in psql also shows me that comment (also
I find no option within pgadmin to view it :) )

My question is:

- is this a legal usage of COMMENT, or could this vanish in later
releases?
 (within COMMENTs documentation there is only mentionedcolumn
tablename.columname)


Best wishes,

Harald


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Re: [GENERAL] backend process terminates

2007-08-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 07:46:45AM -0400, Geoffrey wrote:
 I don't know all the idiosyncrasies of how this works, so bear with me 
 on this.  The developer at the vendor indicated that he's narrowed down 
 the problem to a set of wrapper routines in their code.  They are named 
 OpenFile(), CloseFile() and ReadFile();  He inquired as to whether there 
 might be routines in the Postgresql code with the same names that might 
 be causing a conflict.  Sure enough, I searched the Postgresql source 
 code and found routines with the same names.  I don't see how this could 
 pose a problem though, as it is my understanding that the compiler will 
 properly address this issue.

Yes, this could cause a problem. In general, when loading a library,
any external references are first resolved against the main
executable, then already loaded libraries, then the library being
loaded. It's all in the ELF standard, if you're interested.

As for solutions:
1. In your third party library, have the library built in such a way
that the symbols are explicitly bound to the internal library version.
There are various methods for dealing with that, it all depends on the
toolchain used to build it. I suppose this product is actually several
libraries that call eachother? Namespace would help here.

2. Make sure that any externally visible symbols in libraries are
always prefixed by a tag, like libpq does (almost all symbols are pq*).

Running nm -D over the main postgres executable and your libraries
should give you an idea of the scope of the problem.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [GENERAL] Comment for column in view - legal or just working?

2007-08-08 Thread Dave Page
Harald Armin Massa wrote:
 Using PostgreSQL 8.1.8 on Windows.
 
 I have one named listedi in schema cust; that view has one column name
 
 No I used
 
 comment on cust.listedi.name http://cust.listedi.name is
 'MyDescriptive Name';
 
 and the command suceeded. Using \d+ in psql also shows me that comment
 (also I find no option within pgadmin to view it :) )

You can in 1.8 - that will show a collection of columns under a view,
and allow you to set the comment and default value for each.

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Re: [GENERAL] Comment for column in view - legal or just working?

2007-08-08 Thread Harald Armin Massa
Thanks, Dave.

 reminds me to run allways newest pgadmin, even on customer sites :)

having it used within pgadmin makes it legal enough for me to rely on it
within my application

Best wishes,

Harald


 You can in 1.8 - that will show a collection of columns under a view,
 and allow you to set the comment and default value for each.





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[GENERAL] Installation problem

2007-08-08 Thread luca . ciciriello
Hi.
I\'m trying to install PostgreSQL 8.2.3 on WindowsXP SP2 Media Center (2005
edition). I\'m administrator on this machine, but at the end of the
installation process it fails reporting the following error: \Unable to
start the service. You must have Administrator rights\. Then the
installation ends.
I\'ve already converted the file system from FAT32 to NTSC (solving another
PostgreSQL problem).
Any ideas to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
Luca 
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Re: [GENERAL] import content of XLS file into PostgreSQL

2007-08-08 Thread Ivan Zolotukhin
Hello,

One more way to do it with mouse clicking only is OpenOffice. Get OO
and install PostgreSQL driver into OpenOffice Database application,
then you'll be able to import/export spreadsheets to and from database
tables and work with DB tables just like they are spreadsheets.

Regards,
 Ivan

On 8/6/07, Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I would like to know what should i do to import the content (not all
 columns) of a XLS file into pgsql.
 is there something special to do ?

 thanks a lot,

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[GENERAL] PostgreSQL and cluster

2007-08-08 Thread luca . ciciriello
Hi.
Anybody know if is possible to install PostgreSQL in cluster mode on a
cluster formed by two windows server 2003 cluster?

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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL and cluster

2007-08-08 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:03:54PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi.
 Anybody know if is possible to install PostgreSQL in cluster mode on a
 cluster formed by two windows server 2003 cluster?

Yes. Set it up as a generic service, and make sure you store the data
directory (and any other tablespaces) on disks that the service depends on.

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[GENERAL] Data Mart with Postgres

2007-08-08 Thread André Volpato




Hello
everybody,


Im working with a small project to a client, using Postgres to store
data in a dimensional model, fact-oriented, e.g., a Datamart.


At this time, all I have is a populated database, with the "star
schemma" common relations (PKs / FKs).


Below is a list of the main goals of this project :

1. Front-end app (PHP5)

2. Transactional database for this app (Postgres)

3. Datamart in Postgres (described above)

4. ROLAP server that supports Postgres (Java - Mondrian)

5. Front-end app to manage querys to the ROLAP server (JSP - JPivot)


Users will have web access to (1), and will be enable to create views
using (5).


It seems like Im trying to reinvent the wheel, but the point here is
that the client cant afford to use proprietary BI solutions, nor
proprietary OS.

What I have read all across the internet is that Postgres does not
support this kind of application, wich demands materialyzed views,
built-in bitmap index, and so on. In the open-source world, I find
those missing features with Mondrian/JPivot.


Does anyone has ever used this structure before ? At least Mondrian and
JPivot ?


--
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Andr Volpato








[GENERAL] Modified FIFO queue and insert rule

2007-08-08 Thread Leif B. Kristensen
I found an excellent description of how to implement a fifo que in 
PostgreSQL at Greg Mullane's blog:

http://people.planetpostgresql.org/greg/index.php?/archives/89-Implementing-a-queue-in-SQL-Postgres-version.html

I have used the 'rule' approach to implement a queue that generates a 
quick-list of last selected places. The only modification I need is 
that if an item already exists in the list, a new reference should be 
written to the top, and the old reference should be deleted. But it 
seems like I'm in over my head here: 

-- short FIFO list of recently selected places
CREATE TABLE recent_places (
id SERIAL PRIMARY KEY,
place_fk INTEGER REFERENCES places ON DELETE CASCADE
);

CREATE RULE placelimit AS
ON INSERT TO recent_places DO ALSO
DELETE FROM recent_places
WHERE
-- this clause doesn't work
-- (place_fk = NEW.place_fk AND id  NEW.id) OR
id NOT IN (SELECT id FROM recent_places ORDER BY id DESC LIMIT 10);

When I try to use the commented clause above, no records are written to 
the table at all! Why?
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Re: [GENERAL] Reordering columns, will this ever be simple?

2007-08-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 08:15:19PM +0100, Gregory Stark wrote:
 novnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Is there any plan to add such a capability to postgres? 
 
 It's been talked about. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in 8.4 but nobody's
 said they'll be doing it yet and there are a lot of other more exciting ideas
 too.

Doubt it, patches to implement this have been submitted and rejected in
the past. I don't see any reason why 8.4 would be any different.

Have a nice day,
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Re: [GENERAL] backend process terminates

2007-08-08 Thread Geoffrey

Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:

On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 07:46:45AM -0400, Geoffrey wrote:
I don't know all the idiosyncrasies of how this works, so bear with me 
on this.  The developer at the vendor indicated that he's narrowed down 
the problem to a set of wrapper routines in their code.  They are named 
OpenFile(), CloseFile() and ReadFile();  He inquired as to whether there 
might be routines in the Postgresql code with the same names that might 
be causing a conflict.  Sure enough, I searched the Postgresql source 
code and found routines with the same names.  I don't see how this could 
pose a problem though, as it is my understanding that the compiler will 
properly address this issue.


Yes, this could cause a problem. In general, when loading a library,
any external references are first resolved against the main
executable, then already loaded libraries, then the library being
loaded. It's all in the ELF standard, if you're interested.


I will be checking them out.  My compiler knowledge is a bit rusty, 
circa SVR4... ;)



As for solutions:
1. In your third party library, have the library built in such a way
that the symbols are explicitly bound to the internal library version.
There are various methods for dealing with that, it all depends on the
toolchain used to build it. I suppose this product is actually several
libraries that call eachother? Namespace would help here.


Correct on both counts.  Many of the routines are wrapper routines used 
to assist in code portability.



2. Make sure that any externally visible symbols in libraries are
always prefixed by a tag, like libpq does (almost all symbols are pq*).

Running nm -D over the main postgres executable and your libraries
should give you an idea of the scope of the problem.

Hope this helps,


It appears that the common routine names were causing the problem.  We 
are currently testing new versions of these libraries where they have 
renamed the common routines with unique names.


Thanks for the insights.

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Re: [GENERAL] List tables in reverse dependancy order

2007-08-08 Thread Pavel Stehule
Hello,

five years ago I used

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION list_user_tables_sort_depend
  (owner VARCHAR, revers BOOLEAN) RETURNS SETOF VARCHAR AS '
DECLARE tabulky VARCHAR[]; i INTEGER; opakovat BOOLEAN = ''t'';
  pom VARCHAR; exportovano VARCHAR[] = ''{}''; r RECORD;
mohu_exportovat BOOLEAN;

BEGIN SELECT ARRAY(SELECT tablename FROM pg_tables WHERE tableowner =
owner) INTO tabulky;
  WHILE opakovat LOOP
opakovat := ''f'';
FOR i IN array_lower(tabulky,1) .. array_upper(tabulky,1) LOOP
  IF tabulky[i]   THEN
mohu_exportovat := ''t'';
FOR r IN SELECT t.relname AS z, x.relname AS nz FROM
pg_catalog.pg_constraint d
  INNER JOIN pg_catalog.pg_class t on t.oid = d.conrelid
  INNER JOIN pg_catalog.pg_class x on x.oid = d.confrelid
WHERE d.contype = ''f'' AND t.relname = tabulky[i] LOOP
  IF NOT r.nz = ANY(exportovano) THEN
mohu_exportovat := ''f'';
  END IF;
END LOOP;
IF mohu_exportovat THEN
  pom := tabulky[i];
  exportovano := exportovano || tabulky[i];
  opakovat := ''t''; tabulky[i] := ;
END IF;
  END IF;
END LOOP;
  END LOOP;
  IF revers THEN
FOR i IN REVERSE array_upper(exportovano,1) ..
array_lower(exportovano,1) LOOP
  RETURN NEXT exportovano[i];
END LOOP;
  ELSE
FOR i IN array_lower(exportovano,1) .. array_upper(exportovano,1) LOOP
  RETURN NEXT exportovano[i];
END LOOP;
  END IF;
  RETURN;
END;
' LANGUAGE plpgsql;

I am sorry for czech variable names

Regards
Pavel Stehule


2007/8/2, Gregory Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



 I am not sure if this is the appropriate list -- please point me at the
 correct one if not.

  I'm trying to create a procedure that would let me retrieve a list of
 tables and views in a database that will be used to control the order in
 which lookup data is created/loaded. So, much simplified, if table
 references table B, which in turn references table A, we want output to list
 table A, B and C in that order.

  I'm sure that this exists -- the pg_dump command must use some similar
 algorithm to decide in which order to load tables, but I can't see to puzzle
 this out.

  Can anyone provide me with some clues, appropriate RTFM references, etc. ?

  TIA,

  Greg Williamson
  Senior DBA
  GlobeXplorer LLC, a DigitalGlobe company

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Re: [GENERAL] Modified FIFO queue and insert rule

2007-08-08 Thread Alban Hertroys
Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
 CREATE RULE placelimit AS
 ON INSERT TO recent_places DO ALSO
 DELETE FROM recent_places
 WHERE
 -- this clause doesn't work
 -- (place_fk = NEW.place_fk AND id  NEW.id) OR
 id NOT IN (SELECT id FROM recent_places ORDER BY id DESC LIMIT 10);
 
 When I try to use the commented clause above, no records are written to 
 the table at all! Why?

Do you use nextval() for that id?
In that case I think you immediately delete the record after inserting
it, as nextval gets called again in the delete statement, and thus id 
NEW.id.

You should probably use a trigger (a before one maybe) instead of a rule.

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Re: [GENERAL] Modified FIFO queue and insert rule

2007-08-08 Thread Leif B. Kristensen
On Wednesday 8. August 2007 15:12, Alban Hertroys wrote:
Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
 CREATE RULE placelimit AS
 ON INSERT TO recent_places DO ALSO
 DELETE FROM recent_places
 WHERE
 -- this clause doesn't work
 -- (place_fk = NEW.place_fk AND id  NEW.id) OR
 id NOT IN (SELECT id FROM recent_places ORDER BY id DESC LIMIT
 10);

 When I try to use the commented clause above, no records are written
 to the table at all! Why?

Do you use nextval() for that id?

I use :

INSERT INTO recent_places (place_fk) VALUES ($place);

And that's the functional equivalent of using nextval() I guess.

In that case I think you immediately delete the record after inserting
it, as nextval gets called again in the delete statement, and thus id
  NEW.id.

Yeah, that sounds reasonable. 

You should probably use a trigger (a before one maybe) instead of a
 rule.

I might consider that. But I figured that it should be trivial to modify 
Greg's example rule.
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Re: [GENERAL] Dealing with tsvector in fuctions for data split

2007-08-08 Thread Francisco Reyes

Francisco Reyes writes:


ERROR:  operator does not exist: text || tsvector

Also, it'd be worth to show simplified version of your function, which 
demonstrates your problem.



I did include that.


The function looks like:
AS $$
DECLARE
  v_sql TEXT;
BEGIN
  v_sql := 'INSERT INTO messagecatalog_'|| 
to_char(NEW.timestampfield,'')||

  '(field1, field2) values ('
||New.field1||','||New.field2||')
')';
  EXECUTE v_sql;
  RETURN NULL;
END
$$;


In the code above field1 is text and field2 is tsvector.



Any suggestions?
Anyone else has dealt with tsvectors in a partition environment?
If sow how did you get the split function/rule to insert into the child 
table? 


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[GENERAL] Interpreting statistics collector output

2007-08-08 Thread Steve Madsen
Can anyone provide a brief overview of how to go about interpreting  
the information generated by the statistics collector?  I've looked  
around and can't find old mailing list messages or anything in the  
manual beyond the basics of how to query the statistics.


Cache hit rates are easy to compute, but is this useful beyond  
knowing if Postgres has enough buffers?


Can anything useful be gleaned from looking at idx_scan /  
idx_tup_read / idx_tup_fetch?


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[GENERAL] Automation using postgres

2007-08-08 Thread Jasbinder Singh Bali
Hi,

I my system, I am using postgres triggers to launch some unix tools and thus
postgres not only serves the purpose of data storage but also works as an
engine to automate the whole system. (this is about my system, talking on a
broader level )

I just wanted to know if there's any related work in this area so that I can
compare my system with already existing systems related to it.


Thanks,
Jas


Re: [GENERAL] array_to_set functions

2007-08-08 Thread Guy Fraser
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 17:46 -0500, Decibel! wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 08:18:08PM +0530, Merlin Moncure wrote:
  On 8/3/07, Guy Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 07:14 +0530, Merlin Moncure wrote:
On 8/1/07, Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Fetter and I just came up with these, perhaps others will find
 them useful:

 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION array_to_set(anyarray, int) RETURNS SETOF 
 anyelement LANGUAGE SQL AS $$
 SELECT $1[i] from generate_series(array_lower($1, $2), 
 array_upper($1, $2)) i
 $$;
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION array_to_set(anyarray) RETURNS SETOF 
 anyelement LANGUAGE SQL AS $$
 SELECT array_to_set($1, 1)
 $$;
   
very nice, although IMO there is a strong justification for these
functions to be in core and written in C for efficiency (along with
array_accum, which I have hand burn from copying and pasting out of
the documentation).
   
merlin
   
   Excellent timing guys. :^)
  
   I was trying to build a function to list the items of an array, but
   ran into problems and was going to post what I had been working on.
  
   Your functions work great.
  
   In case you don't have the function to generate an array from a set
   here is one I have been using :
  
  
   CREATE AGGREGATE array_accum (
   BASETYPE = anyelement,
   SFUNC = array_append,
   STYPE = anyarray,
   INITCOND = '{}'
   );
  
  I think that's what just about everyone uses.  Unfortunately the
  reverse of the function (array_to_set above) AFAIK does not map
  directly to the C array API.
 
 Oh, cool, hadn't thought about using an aggregate to do this. That's
 probably faster than what I came up with.
You are welcome. I am glad someone appreciated my gesture.



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Re: [GENERAL] Take your postgresSql on the road, and live to tell of it.

2007-08-08 Thread Scott Marlowe
On 8/7/07, Owen Hartnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 2:15 PM -0700 8/7/07, Ben wrote:
 How many users do you have? Have you considered giving each user a
 schema in which to make their changes? It sounds like you don't
 really have a multi-master replication issue, which makes things
 easier.

 Maybe I'm not understanding the strategy, but I don't see what this
 buys me, as I have to end up with a single database schema that has
 incorporated all the changes.  If I can record all the SQL a user
 does from the checkpoint on, then I can psql  it in to the main
 database.  Once I've combined their data into the database that sits
 on the server, I don't need their database copies anymore.

I'm not sure how you're planning to do this.  PostgreSQL doesn't use
SQL statements for Point in Time Recovery, it uses WAL logs applied
against a database that's an exact physical copy of the database at a
previous time.  Are you going to write your own application that will
let you save each SQL statement before it's applied to the user's
local database?

And if so, are you then going to have an individual database for each
user?  That might work.

My way isn't all that much harder to do.  It just lets you store all
the data in one database and share it out with all the users.

So it really depends on what you want in the end.  With one database,
it would be much easier to run a query across all your data at once.
With individual databases you have very strong isolation between the
data sets.

Either way would work, each has its own advantages and disadvantages.

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Re: [GENERAL] Reordering columns, will this ever be simple?

2007-08-08 Thread Scott Marlowe
On 8/8/07, Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 08:15:19PM +0100, Gregory Stark wrote:
  novnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Is there any plan to add such a capability to postgres?
 
  It's been talked about. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in 8.4 but 
  nobody's
  said they'll be doing it yet and there are a lot of other more exciting 
  ideas
  too.

 Doubt it, patches to implement this have been submitted and rejected in
 the past. I don't see any reason why 8.4 would be any different.

If the danger of implementing this is some subtle bug that eats my
data, I'd just as soon do without.  It's not a feature I've ever felt
the need for really.  And there are lots of cool features I could
think of I'd want before this.

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Re: [GENERAL] import content of XLS file into PostgreSQL

2007-08-08 Thread Ivan Zolotukhin
Hello,

On 8/8/07, Roberto Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/8/07, Ivan Zolotukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  One more way to do it with mouse clicking only is OpenOffice. Get OO
  and install PostgreSQL driver into OpenOffice Database application,
  then you'll be able to import/export spreadsheets to and from database
  tables and work with DB tables just like they are spreadsheets.

 That should be the easiest way if you're not programming-inclined. I
 don't know if others have suggested it, but you could export the XLS
 to csv (comma-separated values) and use a csv-parsing module in a
 programming language (Python has one) to grab only the values you want
 and import into PostgreSQL.

Sure. But if you use XLS one can suspect that you're not
programming-inclined :) But seriously, OO Database is a nice thing
because you'd better move all this documents that many people prepare
in spreadsheets right inside PostgreSQL. Your xls users won't even
notice the change while their data will be being stored in the DB
directly without any files.

Regards,
 Ivan

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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL and cluster

2007-08-08 Thread luca . ciciriello
Thanks, setting it up as generic service make the clustering procedure to
work fine, but I'm still unable to relocate the data directory. We have
copied the DATA directory in the right path, but which variables I must
change? I've changed the variable about the path (now I'm not in the office
and don't remember the name) in the file PostgreSQL.conf, but nothing is
changed.

Luca

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To: 
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Data: 08/08/07 15:41

 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:03:54PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi.
  Anybody know if is possible to install PostgreSQL in cluster mode on a
  cluster formed by two windows server 2003 cluster?
 
 Yes. Set it up as a generic service, and make sure you store the data
 directory (and any other tablespaces) on disks that the service depends
on.
 
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[GENERAL] Running a query from the OS CLI

2007-08-08 Thread Gauthier, Dave
If I have a DB called foo 

...and...

I want to run select name from table_a where name like 'john%'

...and...

I want no table header NAME in the output

...and...

I want to do this as a one-liner from the linux command line

...and...

I don't want to have to deal with intermediate files or home-grown
programs...

 

Is this possible?

 

 

 

 



Re: [GENERAL] Dealing with tsvector in fuctions for data split

2007-08-08 Thread Oleg Bartunov

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Francisco Reyes wrote:


Francisco Reyes writes:


ERROR:  operator does not exist: text || tsvector


what'd you expect from this operation ? In 8.2 you can cast tsvector
to text like this:

=# select textin( tsvector_out( strip( to_tsvector('1 b c'::text || 'some 
text'::text;
   ?column?
--
 '1' 'b' 'c'some text

You should think about removing positional information from tsvector
using strip() function.


In CVS HEAD standard CAST should works.

postgres=# select cast( 'a b c'::tsvector AS text);
text
-
'a' 'b' 'c'




Also, it'd be worth to show simplified version of your function, which 
demonstrates your problem.



I did include that.


The function looks like:
AS $$
DECLARE
  v_sql TEXT;
BEGIN
  v_sql := 'INSERT INTO messagecatalog_'|| 
to_char(NEW.timestampfield,'')||

  '(field1, field2) values ('
||New.field1||','||New.field2||')
')';
  EXECUTE v_sql;
  RETURN NULL;
END
$$;


In the code above field1 is text and field2 is tsvector.



Any suggestions?
Anyone else has dealt with tsvectors in a partition environment?
If sow how did you get the split function/rule to insert into the child 
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Re: [GENERAL] Running a query from the OS CLI

2007-08-08 Thread Dann Corbit
See:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/interactive/app-psql.html

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gauthier, Dave
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:14 AM
To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: [GENERAL] Running a query from the OS CLI

 

If I have a DB called foo 


-d dbname
--dbname dbname 

Specifies the name of the database to connect to. This is equivalent to
specifying dbname as the first non-option argument on the command line. 

 

...and...

I want to run select name from table_a where name like 'john%'

 

-c command
--command command 

Specifies that psql is to execute one command string, command, and then
exit. This is useful in shell scripts. 

command must be either a command string that is completely parsable by
the server (i.e., it contains no psql specific features), or a single
backslash command. Thus you cannot mix SQL and psql meta-commands with
this option. To achieve that, you could pipe the string into psql, like
this: echo '\x \\ SELECT * FROM foo;' | psql. (\\ is the separator
meta-command.) 

If the command string contains multiple SQL commands, they are processed
in a single transaction, unless there are explicit BEGIN/COMMIT commands
included in the string to divide it into multiple transactions. This is
different from the behavior when the same string is fed to psql's
standard input. 

 

 

...and...

I want no table header NAME in the output

 

-t
--tuples-only 

Turn off printing of column names and result row count footers, etc.
This is equivalent to the \t command. 

 

 

...and...

I want to do this as a one-liner from the linux command line

...and...

I don't want to have to deal with intermediate files or home-grown
programs...

 

Is this possible?

 

Read The Fine Manual.

 

 

 

 



Re: [GENERAL] Running a query from the OS CLI

2007-08-08 Thread Michael Glaesemann


On Aug 8, 2007, at 13:13 , Gauthier, Dave wrote:


If I have a DB called foo


psql --dbname foo



...and...

I want to run select name from table_a where name like 'john%'


psql --dbname foo -c select name from table_a where name like 'john 
%'




...and...

I want no table header NAME in the output


psql --dbname foo -c select name from table_a where name like 'john 
%' -t




...and...

I want to do this as a one-liner from the linux command line


check.



...and...

I don't want to have to deal with intermediate files or home-grown
programs...


Does that work?

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Re: [GENERAL] Running a query from the OS CLI

2007-08-08 Thread Steve Atkins


On Aug 8, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Gauthier, Dave wrote:


If I have a DB called “foo”

...and...

I want to run “select name from table_a where name like ‘john%’”

...and...

I want no table header “NAME” in the output

...and...

I want to do this as a one-liner from the linux command line

...and...

I don’t want to have to deal with intermediate files or home-grown  
programs...

Something like this:

psql -A -q  -t -d foo -c “select name from table_a where name like  
‘john%’”


You may need to use -U to set a user, and there are a bunch of other
useful flags to set the output format. There are also flags and  
environment

variables you can set to set the host and port to connect to.

Depending on how your access control permissions are setup you may
need to get a password to psql, typically by using a ~/.pgpass file.  
Check

the psql man page and the main postgresql docs for the gory details.

Cheers,
  Steve



Re: [GENERAL] Running a query from the OS CLI

2007-08-08 Thread Gauthier, Dave
Yes, that works. 

The actual sql executes a stored function that returns a set of records.
Output to the CLI looks great !!!

Thanks to all !!!

-dave 

-Original Message-
From: Michael Glaesemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:43 PM
To: Gauthier, Dave
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Running a query from the OS CLI


On Aug 8, 2007, at 13:13 , Gauthier, Dave wrote:

 If I have a DB called foo

psql --dbname foo


 ...and...

 I want to run select name from table_a where name like 'john%'

psql --dbname foo -c select name from table_a where name like 'john 
%'


 ...and...

 I want no table header NAME in the output

psql --dbname foo -c select name from table_a where name like 'john 
%' -t


 ...and...

 I want to do this as a one-liner from the linux command line

check.


 ...and...

 I don't want to have to deal with intermediate files or home-grown
 programs...

Does that work?

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Re: [GENERAL] tsearch2: plainto_tsquery() with OR?

2007-08-08 Thread cluster

Does anyone know where I can request an OR-version of plainto_tsquery()?

I don't understand why it doesn't exist already: In most cases, when 
using user entered keywords to search for, there should be returned some 
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[GENERAL] Dump all objects under a specific schema

2007-08-08 Thread Emi Lu

Hello List,

Is there a way that I can only dump all objects under a specific schema?

I'd like to dump all tables, views' definition and data under a specific 
schema.



Thank you!

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[GENERAL] Trigger not working as expected, first row gets a null value

2007-08-08 Thread novnov

I have a trigger function that updates a field in the update/insert table
which uses a not so simple sql statement to find the value to update with. I
am not getting the results I expect. I expect I'm falling into some classic
trigger gotcha.

The table being updated is for 'bids'; 'bids has a fkey to the parent 'item'
table.

The first time a 'bid' row is added for a particular 'item', the trigger
returns null.

Any subsequent 'bids' on an 'item' find that the trigger has been invoked
and a correct calc applied for the new rows.

If value the trigger should apply is hard coded, all table updates get the
hard coded value. So there seems to be some kind of timing issue when the
complex sql gets involved. But, why does it work after the first row is
added for the 'item'?

If I change the trigger to be invoked after insert/update, a '0' value is
always inserted...I also don't understand that.
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Re: [GENERAL] Dump all objects under a specific schema

2007-08-08 Thread Aurynn Shaw

Hi;

Hello List,

Is there a way that I can only dump all objects under a specific  
schema?


I'd like to dump all tables, views' definition and data under a  
specific schema.



pg_dump --help says that you're looking for the -n flag, so,

pg_dump -n your_schema -f output.sql

Hope that helps,

Aurynn Shaw

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Re: [GENERAL] Dump all objects under a specific schema

2007-08-08 Thread Michael Glaesemann


On Aug 8, 2007, at 14:18 , Emi Lu wrote:

Is there a way that I can only dump all objects under a specific  
schema?


Have you checked the pg_dump documentation?

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/interactive/app-pgdump.html

In particular, the -n flag might interest you.

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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL and cluster

2007-08-08 Thread Magnus Hagander
Probably the easiest way is to unregister the server using pg_ctl
unregister, and then re-register it with the other data directory.

The other option is to edit the registry under Services and change the
commandline used to start the PostgreSQL service. Note that you will
have to reboot your server if you go with this method.

Normally, you'd point out the cluster directory when you originally
install PostgreSQL and the installer will take care of it.

//Magnus

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, setting it up as generic service make the clustering procedure to
 work fine, but I'm still unable to relocate the data directory. We have
 copied the DATA directory in the right path, but which variables I must
 change? I've changed the variable about the path (now I'm not in the office
 and don't remember the name) in the file PostgreSQL.conf, but nothing is
 changed.
 
 Luca
   
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 On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:03:54PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi.
 Anybody know if is possible to install PostgreSQL in cluster mode on a
 cluster formed by two windows server 2003 cluster?
 Yes. Set it up as a generic service, and make sure you store the data
 directory (and any other tablespaces) on disks that the service depends
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Re: [GENERAL] Trigger not working as expected, first row gets a null value

2007-08-08 Thread Rodrigo De León
On Aug 8, 3:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (novnov) wrote:
 ... I also don't understand ...

DDL + sample data, please...


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Re: [GENERAL] Having trouble building 64-bit pgsql 7.4.17 on HPUX ia64

2007-08-08 Thread Decibel!
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 06:50:14PM +0530, Rajaram J wrote:
 Hi
 
 I'm having trouble building 64-bit pgsql 7.4.17 on the latest release of 
 HP-UX 11.23 on ia64.

I don't believe that's supported. There was just discussion about this,
but I can't find it in the archive right now...
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Re: [GENERAL] Reordering columns, will this ever be simple?

2007-08-08 Thread Decibel!
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 02:28:20PM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote:
 Gregory Stark wrote:
 novnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   
 Is there any plan to add such a capability to postgres? 
 
 
 It's been talked about. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in 8.4 but 
 nobody's
 said they'll be doing it yet and there are a lot of other more exciting 
 ideas
 too.
 
   
 From a admin tool developers perspective the ability to reorder columns 
 without manually copying to a new table and all that is pretty exiting :-)

Patches welcome. :)

BTW, this is much more likely to happen if we divorce presentation order
from actual storage order, something that there is some desire to do
because it would allow the engine to automagically store things in the
optimal ordering from an alignment standpoint.
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Re: [GENERAL] Data Mart with Postgres

2007-08-08 Thread Decibel!
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 08:56:47AM -0300, Andr? Volpato wrote:
 
 Hello everybody,
 I?m working with a small project to a client, using Postgres to
 store data in a dimensional model, fact-oriented, e.g., a Datamart.
 At this time, all I have is a populated database, with the star
 schemma common relations (PK?s / FK?s).
 Below is a list of the main goals of this project :
 1. Front-end app (PHP5)
 2. Transactional database for this app (Postgres)
 3. Datamart in Postgres (described above)
 4. ROLAP server that supports Postgres (Java - Mondrian)
 5. Front-end app to manage querys to the ROLAP server (JSP - JPivot)
 Users will have web access to (1), and will be enable to create
 views using (5).
 It seems like I?m trying to reinvent the wheel, but the point here
 is that the client can?t afford to use proprietary BI solutions, nor
 proprietary OS.
 What I have read all across the internet is that Postgres does not
 support this kind of application, wich demands materialyzed views,
 built-in bitmap index, and so on. In the open-source world, I find
 those missing features with Mondrian/JPivot.
 Does anyone has ever used this structure before ? At least Mondrian
 and JPivot ?

I haven't but it's certainly possible to build a datamart without bitmap
indexes or mviews, it's just a question of performance. MViews you can
build yourself easily enough; as for bitmap indexes, IIRC you can get
those in Bizgres.
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Re: [GENERAL] Interpreting statistics collector output

2007-08-08 Thread Decibel!
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 11:01:13AM -0400, Steve Madsen wrote:
 Can anyone provide a brief overview of how to go about interpreting  
 the information generated by the statistics collector?  I've looked  
 around and can't find old mailing list messages or anything in the  
 manual beyond the basics of how to query the statistics.
 
 Cache hit rates are easy to compute, but is this useful beyond  
 knowing if Postgres has enough buffers?
 
 Can anything useful be gleaned from looking at idx_scan /  
 idx_tup_read / idx_tup_fetch?

Yes, that will give you information about how often an index is being
used. If you see indexes where idx_scan is a small number, that's an
indication that that index isn't being used for queries and could
potentially be dropped.

Something else I like to look at is pg_stat_all_tables seq_scan and
seq_tup_read. If seq_scan is a large number and seq_tup_read/seq_scan is
also large, that indicates that you could use an index on that table.
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Re: [GENERAL] Automation using postgres

2007-08-08 Thread Decibel!
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 11:48:28AM -0400, Jasbinder Singh Bali wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I my system, I am using postgres triggers to launch some unix tools and thus
 postgres not only serves the purpose of data storage but also works as an
 engine to automate the whole system. (this is about my system, talking on a
 broader level )
 
 I just wanted to know if there's any related work in this area so that I can
 compare my system with already existing systems related to it.

I think that's pretty rare. You should write something up about what
you're doing and post it, it could be useful info.
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Re: [GENERAL] Having trouble building 64-bit pgsql 7.4.17 on HPUX ia64

2007-08-08 Thread vamseelist
Why don't you use latest version of postgresql?

On 8/8/07, Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 06:50:14PM +0530, Rajaram J wrote:
  Hi
 
  I'm having trouble building 64-bit pgsql 7.4.17 on the latest release of
 HP-UX 11.23 on ia64.

 I don't believe that's supported. There was just discussion about this,
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Re: [GENERAL] Trigger not working as expected, first row gets a null value

2007-08-08 Thread novnov

I know that would be best but it'd be a major undertaking to try to repro
this situation. I was hoping for some hints, 'it sounds like xyz', because
I'm pretty sure I'm just tripping over a commonplace issue.


Rodrigo De León-2 wrote:
 
 On Aug 8, 3:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (novnov) wrote:
 ... I also don't understand ...
 
 DDL + sample data, please...
 
 
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Re: [GENERAL] Trigger not working as expected, first row gets a null value

2007-08-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 03:20:00PM -0700, novnov wrote:
 
 I know that would be best but it'd be a major undertaking to try to repro
 this situation. I was hoping for some hints, 'it sounds like xyz', because
 I'm pretty sure I'm just tripping over a commonplace issue.

It doesn't have to be repoducable, but the definition of the tables
involves + the code of the trigger would help. I read your description
three times and still couldn't quite work out exactly what the problem
was or what you were expecting to happen...

Have a nice day,
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Re: [GENERAL] backend process terminates

2007-08-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 08:50:41AM -0400, Geoffrey wrote:
 Correct on both counts.  Many of the routines are wrapper routines used 
 to assist in code portability.

That ok in programs, but shared libraries need to be careful not to use
names likely to be used by programs that use them. FWIW, this document
has lots of information about ELF shared libraries.

http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf 

There's a lot of technical stuff that you can skip, but there is a lot
of info about scopes and how they are resolved, common problems and how
to fix them.

Have a nice,
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Re: [GENERAL] Reordering columns, will this ever be simple?

2007-08-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 11:37:11AM -0500, Scott Marlowe wrote:
 If the danger of implementing this is some subtle bug that eats my
 data, I'd just as soon do without.  It's not a feature I've ever felt
 the need for really.  And there are lots of cool features I could
 think of I'd want before this.

What I'm more interested in the possibility of rearranging the physical
order of columns at the CREATE TABLE stage to optimise access to
various fields (move fixed width fields to front) and to minimise cost
of padding of said fields.

I imagine this could provide useful savings on wide tables and
multicolumn indexes, but you have to decouple logical and physical
ordering to do it.

But this is a thoroughly dead horse, lets not beat it up again.

Have a nice day,
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[GENERAL] Crosstab Question

2007-08-08 Thread David Blewett
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Hi All:

I'm building an application along the lines of the questionnaire
design on varlena.com [1], with slight modifications. In my design,
there's a table called chartversionquestion that collects different
questions into a bundle to create the questionnaire.

Using a view [2] very similar to the one on varlena, I pull all the
data from the value tables into one long list (cast to text). I
would like to be able to create a crosstab from this view such that
the short question name becomes a column header, with the related
value underneath.

Since the number of questions to be pivoted will vary per
questionnaire the method should accept a number of columns
parameter. The crosstab in the tablefunc contrib module expects the
columns to be explicitly identified before hand. I suppose it could
be possible to write a simple function to wrap the crosstab_n_cols
functions to be able to return a variable number, but that seems
hackish. Are there any other alternatives?

David Blewett

[1] http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/110.php
[2] http://www.varlena.com/varlena/GeneralBits/Tidbits/QnA/views.sql
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Re: [GENERAL] Take your postgresSql on the road, and live to tell of it.

2007-08-08 Thread Scott Ribe
You can also have a trigger that records into a log table the id  table of
each record inserted/updated/deleted, and then it's a simple matter of
merging changes from a certain point forward by searching that table and
using the values of the current records.

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Re: [GENERAL] Crosstab Question

2007-08-08 Thread Michael Glaesemann


On Aug 8, 2007, at 19:23 , David Blewett wrote:


Since the number of questions to be pivoted will vary per
questionnaire the method should accept a number of columns
parameter. The crosstab in the tablefunc contrib module expects the
columns to be explicitly identified before hand. I suppose it could
be possible to write a simple function to wrap the crosstab_n_cols
functions to be able to return a variable number, but that seems
hackish. Are there any other alternatives?


I've done just that in the past. It's pretty straightforward and has  
worked fine.


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Re: [GENERAL] tsearch2: plainto_tsquery() with OR?

2007-08-08 Thread Oleg Bartunov

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, cluster wrote:


Does anyone know where I can request an OR-version of plainto_tsquery()?


plainto_tsquery expects plain text, use to_tsquery for boolean operators.



I don't understand why it doesn't exist already: In most cases, when using 
user entered keywords to search for, there should be returned some  rows even 
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Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
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Re: [GENERAL] tsearch2: plainto_tsquery() with OR?

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Lane
Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, cluster wrote:
 Does anyone know where I can request an OR-version of plainto_tsquery()?

 plainto_tsquery expects plain text, use to_tsquery for boolean operators.

Are either of these definitions really right?  If I type foo bar baz
into Google, for instance, it seems to produce some sort of weighted
result, neither a strict AND nor a strict OR.  Google didn't get where
they are by misjudging what the simplest search behavior should be like.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] tsearch2: plainto_tsquery() with OR?

2007-08-08 Thread Oleg Bartunov

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Tom Lane wrote:


Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, cluster wrote:

Does anyone know where I can request an OR-version of plainto_tsquery()?



plainto_tsquery expects plain text, use to_tsquery for boolean operators.


Are either of these definitions really right?  If I type foo bar baz
into Google, for instance, it seems to produce some sort of weighted
result, neither a strict AND nor a strict OR.  Google didn't get where
they are by misjudging what the simplest search behavior should be like.


we provide strict basic query language via to_tsquery(), which could be 
a foundation for different ql. We need consensus here and we leave it for
future. Someone could write google like ql, but I didn't see any description 
what exactly google does. Currently, people write their own search wrappers 
which implement google-like ql.


Regards,
Oleg
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Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia
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phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83

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