Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread Melvin Davidson
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 2:52 PM, twoflower  wrote:

> That makes perfect sense.
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*I feel it important to add one note to this thread. The version of
PostgreSQL has not been stated, but it is very *



*important to note that the default behavior of pg_ctl has changed between
v9.4 and 9.5.https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/release-9-5.html
*

   -

   *Change pg_ctl
   's default
   shutdown mode from smart to fast (Bruce Momjian)*

   *This means the default behavior will be to forcibly cancel existing
   database sessions, not simply wait for them to exit.*


*So if the PostgreSQL version is 9.4 or lower, and there are any open
connections, the pg_ctl will wait until all connections terminate (either
normally or *

*are forced off). That "might " explain why pg_ctl never terminated (unless
-m fast was also specified). However, if it is version 9.5 or above, then *

*-m fast is the default so existing connections will not be a problem. *
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Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread twoflower
That makes perfect sense.

Thank you for a great help, Adrian!



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Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 11/26/2016 11:33 AM, twoflower wrote:

Ah, it didn't occur to me to try hitting ENTER. Still, this would be
fine for manually running the script, but as I am restarting the server
as a part of SaltStack config, I need |pg_ctl| to terminate without me
intervening.

The solution with the |-l| argument is fine, I think. Even if I use it,
the server then logs its output into the file I specified in
|postgresql.conf| (which I would not expect, by the way).


You are seeing the two stages of logging. The first stage, that you are 
capturing with -l, is the early logging before the logging configuration 
you set up in postgresql.conf kicks in. This is why you see this:


-2016-11-26 11:16:40.737 PST-0 LOG:  redirecting log output to logging 
collector process
-2016-11-26 11:16:40.737 PST-0 HINT:  Future log output will appear in 
directory "pg_log".


After the above the rest of the logging goes to whatever you set up in 
postgresql.conf, assuming it was set up. Otherwise it will go to the 
stdout of the terminal.


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Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread twoflower
Ah, it didn't occur to me to try hitting ENTER. Still, this would be fine for
manually running the script, but as I am restarting the server as a part of
SaltStack config, I need pg_ctl to terminate without me intervening.

The solution with the -l argument is fine, I think. Even if I use it, the
server then logs its output into the file I specified in postgresql.conf
(which I would not expect, by the way).



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Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 11/26/2016 11:08 AM, twoflower wrote:

Yes, I am using that, thank you. But just by themselves these settings
do not make |pg_ctl| terminate.


You should see something like:

postgres@panda:~> /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data/ 
restart

waiting for server to shut down. done
server stopped
server starting
postgres@panda:~> -2016-11-26 11:16:40.737 PST-0 LOG:  redirecting log 
output to logging collector process
-2016-11-26 11:16:40.737 PST-0 HINT:  Future log output will appear in 
directory "pg_log".


If you hit Enter you get:

postgres@panda:~>

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Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread twoflower
Yes, I am using that, thank you. But just by themselves these settings do not
make pg_ctl terminate.



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Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 11/26/2016 07:47 AM, twoflower wrote:
> Adrian Klaver-4 wrote
>> You also specify a log file to pg_ctl  by using -l:
>>
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/app-pg-ctl.html
> 
> This did the trick, thank you!

Great. Still I would suggest using the settings here:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/runtime-config-logging.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-LOGGING-WHERE

Then you will get logging however you start Postgres.




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Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread twoflower
Adrian Klaver-4 wrote
> You also specify a log file to pg_ctl  by using -l:
> 
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/app-pg-ctl.html

This did the trick, thank you!




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Re: [GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 11/26/2016 07:15 AM, twoflower wrote:

I am restarting the server using the following:

su postgres -c "/usr/lib/postgresql/9.6/bin/pg_ctl -D /var/lib/postgresql/9.6/main 
-o '-c config_file=/etc/postgresql/9.6/main/postgresql.conf' restart"

The server is restarted properly, but the the command never finishes.
After the restart, it displays the server's logfile. Is this intended?


Do have logging set up in postgresql.conf to go to a file?

Even if you do have logging set to go to a file you will probably see a 
couple of lines telling you it is redirecting to the file.


You also specify a log file to pg_ctl  by using -l:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/app-pg-ctl.html


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[GENERAL] 'pg_ctl restart' does not terminate

2016-11-26 Thread twoflower
I am restarting the server using the following:
su postgres -c "/usr/lib/postgresql/9.6/bin/pg_ctl -D
/var/lib/postgresql/9.6/main -o '-c
config_file=/etc/postgresql/9.6/main/postgresql.conf' restart"
The server is restarted properly, but the the command never finishes. After
the restart, it displays the server's logfile.Is this intended?



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