[GENERAL] Info about concurrent sequential scans

2010-02-22 Thread Daniele Varrazzo
Hello,

at Prato PgDay in 2007 I remember hearing in a speech about a (then
yet to come) seqscan piggyback feature, allowing concurrent
sequential scans to use the same disk reads. I've now googled for info
about this feature, but I found nothing conclusive (e.g. [1], [2] -
which I don't know where is linked).

So I'd like to know:

is this feature currently implemented (I'm specifically interested in PG 8.3)?
Is there any prerequisite needed to benefit from it (config setting,
query characteristic, etc.)?
Is there any feedback showing the feature kicking in (e.g. an explain
analyze output, log, etc.)?

Thank you very much.

-- Daniele

[1] http://wordpress.metro.cx/2008/02/24/postgresql-83/
[2] http://www.postgresql.org/about/featuredetail/feature.26

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Re: [GENERAL] Info about concurrent sequential scans

2010-02-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
Daniele Varrazzo wrote:
 Hello,
 
 at Prato PgDay in 2007 I remember hearing in a speech about a (then
 yet to come) seqscan piggyback feature, allowing concurrent
 sequential scans to use the same disk reads. I've now googled for info
 about this feature, but I found nothing conclusive (e.g. [1], [2] -
 which I don't know where is linked).
 
 So I'd like to know:
 
 is this feature currently implemented (I'm specifically interested in PG 8.3)?
 Is there any prerequisite needed to benefit from it (config setting,
 query characteristic, etc.)?
 Is there any feedback showing the feature kicking in (e.g. an explain
 analyze output, log, etc.)?

The feature is called 'synchronize_seqscans' and was implemented in
Postgres 8.3.

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Re: [GENERAL] Info about concurrent sequential scans

2010-02-22 Thread Andreas Kretschmer
Daniele Varrazzo daniele.varra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 at Prato PgDay in 2007 I remember hearing in a speech about a (then
 yet to come) seqscan piggyback feature, allowing concurrent
 sequential scans to use the same disk reads. I've now googled for info
 about this feature, but I found nothing conclusive (e.g. [1], [2] -
 which I don't know where is linked).
 
 So I'd like to know:
 
 is this feature currently implemented (I'm specifically interested in PG 8.3)?

I think, you means this:

 Concurrent large sequential scans can now share disk reads (Jeff Davis)

This is accomplished by starting the new sequential scan in the middle
of the table (where another sequential scan is already in-progress) and
wrapping around to the beginning to finish. This can affect the order of
returned rows in a query that does not specify ORDER BY. The
synchronize_seqscans configuration parameter can be used to disable this
if necessary

Source:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/interactive/release-8-3.html


 Is there any prerequisite needed to benefit from it (config setting,
 query characteristic, etc.)?

No.



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Re: [GENERAL] Info about concurrent sequential scans

2010-02-22 Thread Daniele Varrazzo
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Andreas Kretschmer
akretsch...@spamfence.net wrote:
 Daniele Varrazzo daniele.varra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 at Prato PgDay in 2007 I remember hearing in a speech about a (then
 yet to come) seqscan piggyback feature, allowing concurrent
 sequential scans to use the same disk reads. I've now googled for info
 about this feature, but I found nothing conclusive (e.g. [1], [2] -
 which I don't know where is linked).

 I think, you means this:

  Concurrent large sequential scans can now share disk reads (Jeff Davis)

 This is accomplished by starting the new sequential scan in the middle
 of the table (where another sequential scan is already in-progress) and
 wrapping around to the beginning to finish. This can affect the order of
 returned rows in a query that does not specify ORDER BY. The
 synchronize_seqscans configuration parameter can be used to disable this
 if necessary

 Source:
 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/interactive/release-8-3.html

Thank you very much (and thanks to Bruce too). This is the feature and
I'm checking it works out of the box on PG 8.3

-- Daniele

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