[GENERAL] coalesce and nvl question

2004-06-23 Thread Simon Windsor
Hi

Is there a standard postgres method of replacing empty strings.

In Oracle, nvl handles nulls and empty strings, as does ifnull() in
MySQL, but with postgres coalesce only handles null strings.

If, not is the best solution to create a plpgsql function, ie

CREATE FUNCTION isEmpty (character varying, character varying) RETURNS
character varying
AS '
declare
fnRetTrue  alias for $1;
fnRetFalse alias for $2;
begin
if fnRetTrue = '' or fnRetTrue is not null then
return fnRetTrue;
else
return fnRetFalse;
end if;
end;
'
LANGUAGE plpgsql;

Thanks

Simon

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Re: [GENERAL] coalesce and nvl question

2004-06-23 Thread Mike Mascari
Simon Windsor wrote:
Hi
Is there a standard postgres method of replacing empty strings.
In Oracle, nvl handles nulls and empty strings, as does ifnull() in
MySQL, but with postgres coalesce only handles null strings.
If, not is the best solution to create a plpgsql function, ie
CREATE FUNCTION isEmpty (character varying, character varying) RETURNS
character varying
This all depends upon what you mean by handle. Do you want to treat 
empty strings as NULL or NULL as empty strings? As you said, you can 
treat NULL as empty strings using COALESCE:

SELECT COALESCE(x, '');
You can treat empty strings as NULL
SELECT NULLIF(x, '');
But I'd guess most on this list are wondering why you want to equate 
an empty string with NULL, as they have two distinct meanings. 
Oracle's treatment of empty strings as NULL is world-renowned for 
being insane...

HTH
Mike Mascari

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Re: [GENERAL] coalesce and nvl question

2004-06-23 Thread Simon Windsor
Hi

I understand that null and '' are different, and MySQL and Oracle
functions are confusing, but my question was not about replacing NULL
but replacing Empty strings. These are handled in MySQL/Oracle by the
same functions that do NULL checks.

Is there a standard function in Postgres that replaces Empty strings, as
against a NULL value.

Simon



On Wed, 2004-06-23 at 18:05, Mike Mascari wrote:
 Simon Windsor wrote:
  Hi
  
  Is there a standard postgres method of replacing empty strings.
  
  In Oracle, nvl handles nulls and empty strings, as does ifnull() in
  MySQL, but with postgres coalesce only handles null strings.
  
  If, not is the best solution to create a plpgsql function, ie
  
  CREATE FUNCTION isEmpty (character varying, character varying) RETURNS
  character varying
 
 This all depends upon what you mean by handle. Do you want to treat 
 empty strings as NULL or NULL as empty strings? As you said, you can 
 treat NULL as empty strings using COALESCE:
 
 SELECT COALESCE(x, '');
 
 You can treat empty strings as NULL
 
 SELECT NULLIF(x, '');
 
 But I'd guess most on this list are wondering why you want to equate 
 an empty string with NULL, as they have two distinct meanings. 
 Oracle's treatment of empty strings as NULL is world-renowned for 
 being insane...
 
 HTH
 
 Mike Mascari
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Re: [GENERAL] coalesce and nvl question

2004-06-23 Thread Doug McNaught
Simon Windsor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi

 I understand that null and '' are different, and MySQL and Oracle
 functions are confusing, but my question was not about replacing NULL
 but replacing Empty strings. These are handled in MySQL/Oracle by the
 same functions that do NULL checks.

 Is there a standard function in Postgres that replaces Empty strings, as
 against a NULL value.

I don't think so, but you could use a CASE clause for this.

-Doug

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