Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-14 Thread Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)

On 2008-03-13 23:14, Scott Marlowe wrote:

Tis the other way round I'm afriad.  Schemas live in dbs, not the other way 
around.  Maybe you were thinking tablespaces?
  
You're right;  I was thinking of tables, which I routinely move around 
from schema to schema.


That also means he should ignore my suggestion about moving stuff around.

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Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-13 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Dean Gibson (DB Administrator) >
>  1. What SCHEMAs are these DBs in?  Perhaps a search_path issue (I
>  haven't followed all of this thread, so perhaps this has been mentioned).
>

Tis the other way round I'm afriad.  Schemas live in dbs, not the
other way around.  Maybe you were thinking tablespaces?

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Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-13 Thread Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)

On 2008-03-13 10:10, Gauthier, Dave wrote:

Ya, I'm thinking of dumping all the problem DBs, deleting them, recreating and 
reloading.

  


Last thought:  have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling PostgreSQL?  
If something is corrupted on the disk, it's either the data or the 
software.  An uninstall/reinstall is cheap to do, and probably takes 
less time that the dump/restores.


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Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-13 Thread Tom Lane
"Gauthier, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can't rename a db, complains that it doesn't exist.  Yet psql -l
> shows that it does and I can connect to it ???
> 
> mmdcc228_SETUP(120)% psql stdb2 -c "alter database stdb rename to
> stdb_tmp"
> 
> ERROR:  database "stdb" does not exist

Hmm, I wonder if this could be a corrupt-index problem.  If you
try "select * from pg_database where datname = 'stdb'", do you
get a row? Does "REINDEX pg_database" help?

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-13 Thread Gauthier, Dave
No schemas per-se.  After the initdb, I jump right in with "createdb
foo", "createdb foo2", etc... . 

I don't think it's an encoding propbem.  The problem popped up after
running script that ran successfully for many months.  Somethign changed
(as it were).

Ya, I'm thinking of dumping all the problem DBs, deleting them,
recreating and reloading.

-dave

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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't
exist???

On 2008-03-12 21:30, Scott Marlowe wrote:
> ...
>>  > Can't rename a db, complains that it doesn't exist.  Yet psql -l
shows that it does and I can connect to it ???
>>  >
>>  > mmdcc228_SETUP(120)% psql stdb2 -c "alter database stdb rename to
>>  stdb_tmp"
>>  >
>>  > ERROR:  database "stdb" does not exist
>>  > mmdcc228_SETUP(121)% psql -l
>>  >
>>  >  List of databases
>>  >
>>  >  Name |  Owner   | Encoding
>>  > --+--+--
>>  >  stdb | dfgauthi | UTF8
>>  >  stdb2| dfgauthi | UTF8
>>  >  stdb_standby | dfgauthi | UTF8
>>
>>  Very strange.  maybe the name has a space in it?
>>
>> 
Thoughts:

1. What SCHEMAs are these DBs in?  Perhaps a search_path issue (I 
haven't followed all of this thread, so perhaps this has been
mentioned).

2. What are the current Linux command-line encoding (value of $LANG) and

the psql client_encoding?  Perhaps there is a non-displayable character 
in the name.

3. You can probably delete it by:
  a. Creating a new schema "zzz".
  b. Moving everything else in the schema where stdb is, to the new
schema.
  c. Drop the existing schema (cascade).
  d. Rename schema "zzz" to the name of the previous schema.

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Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-13 Thread Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)

On 2008-03-12 21:30, Scott Marlowe wrote:

...

 > Can't rename a db, complains that it doesn't exist.  Yet psql -l shows that 
it does and I can connect to it ???
 >
 > mmdcc228_SETUP(120)% psql stdb2 -c "alter database stdb rename to
 stdb_tmp"
 >
 > ERROR:  database "stdb" does not exist
 > mmdcc228_SETUP(121)% psql -l
 >
 >  List of databases
 >
 >  Name |  Owner   | Encoding
 > --+--+--
 >  stdb | dfgauthi | UTF8
 >  stdb2| dfgauthi | UTF8
 >  stdb_standby | dfgauthi | UTF8

 Very strange.  maybe the name has a space in it?



Thoughts:

1. What SCHEMAs are these DBs in?  Perhaps a search_path issue (I 
haven't followed all of this thread, so perhaps this has been mentioned).


2. What are the current Linux command-line encoding (value of $LANG) and 
the psql client_encoding?  Perhaps there is a non-displayable character 
in the name.


3. You can probably delete it by:
 a. Creating a new schema "zzz".
 b. Moving everything else in the schema where stdb is, to the new schema.
 c. Drop the existing schema (cascade).
 d. Rename schema "zzz" to the name of the previous schema.

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Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:30:57 -0700
"Scott Marlowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You might want to keep this one on the list.  I'm out of my league
> with this one I think

Can you pg_dump the database? What about vacuum? What does:

SELECT * FROM pg_database; Return?

J


> 
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Gauthier, Dave
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > stdb2=#  select '|'||datname||'|' from pg_database ;
> > ?column?
> >  
> >   |postgres|
> >   |template1|
> >   |template0|
> >   |cells_dev|
> >   |stdb2|
> >   |stdb|
> >   |stdb_standby|
> >   |cells|
> >  (8 rows)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> >  From: Scott Marlowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:22 PM
> >  To: Gauthier, Dave
> >  Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> >  Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it
> > doesn't exist???
> >
> >  On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Gauthier, Dave
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > V8.2.0 on Linux
> >
> >  Look into updating, there were some serious bugs fixed between
> > 8.2.0 and 8.2.6  It's a pretty simple thing, since you don't need
> > to dump / reload for it.
> >
> >  >
> >  > Can't rename a db, complains that it doesn't exist.  Yet psql -l
> >  > shows
> >  that
> >  > it does and I can connect to it ???
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > mmdcc228_SETUP(120)% psql stdb2 -c "alter database stdb rename to
> >  stdb_tmp"
> >  >
> >  > ERROR:  database "stdb" does not exist
> >  >
> >  > mmdcc228_SETUP(121)% psql -l
> >  >
> >  >  List of databases
> >  >
> >  >  Name |  Owner   | Encoding
> >  >
> >  > --+--+--
> >  >  stdb | dfgauthi | UTF8
> >  >
> >  >  stdb2| dfgauthi | UTF8
> >  >
> >  >  stdb_standby | dfgauthi | UTF8
> >
> >  Very strange.  maybe the name has a space in it?
> >
> >  Try running this query:
> >   select '|'||datname||'|' from pg_database ;
> >  and see if you have a space or something in there.  can you run the
> >  alter database rename from the command line and just not from psql?
> >
> 


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Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-12 Thread Scott Marlowe
You might want to keep this one on the list.  I'm out of my league
with this one I think

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Gauthier, Dave
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> stdb2=#  select '|'||datname||'|' from pg_database ;
> ?column?
>  
>   |postgres|
>   |template1|
>   |template0|
>   |cells_dev|
>   |stdb2|
>   |stdb|
>   |stdb_standby|
>   |cells|
>  (8 rows)
>
>
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Scott Marlowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:22 PM
>  To: Gauthier, Dave
>  Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
>  Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't
>  exist???
>
>  On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Gauthier, Dave
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > V8.2.0 on Linux
>
>  Look into updating, there were some serious bugs fixed between 8.2.0
>  and 8.2.6  It's a pretty simple thing, since you don't need to dump /
>  reload for it.
>
>  >
>  > Can't rename a db, complains that it doesn't exist.  Yet psql -l shows
>  that
>  > it does and I can connect to it ???
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > mmdcc228_SETUP(120)% psql stdb2 -c "alter database stdb rename to
>  stdb_tmp"
>  >
>  > ERROR:  database "stdb" does not exist
>  >
>  > mmdcc228_SETUP(121)% psql -l
>  >
>  >  List of databases
>  >
>  >  Name |  Owner   | Encoding
>  >
>  > --+--+--
>  >  stdb | dfgauthi | UTF8
>  >
>  >  stdb2| dfgauthi | UTF8
>  >
>  >  stdb_standby | dfgauthi | UTF8
>
>  Very strange.  maybe the name has a space in it?
>
>  Try running this query:
>   select '|'||datname||'|' from pg_database ;
>  and see if you have a space or something in there.  can you run the
>  alter database rename from the command line and just not from psql?
>

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Re: [GENERAL] Can't rename an existnig DB because it doesn't exist???

2008-03-12 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Gauthier, Dave
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> V8.2.0 on Linux

Look into updating, there were some serious bugs fixed between 8.2.0
and 8.2.6  It's a pretty simple thing, since you don't need to dump /
reload for it.

>
> Can't rename a db, complains that it doesn't exist.  Yet psql –l shows that
> it does and I can connect to it ???
>
>
>
> mmdcc228_SETUP(120)% psql stdb2 -c "alter database stdb rename to stdb_tmp"
>
> ERROR:  database "stdb" does not exist
>
> mmdcc228_SETUP(121)% psql -l
>
>  List of databases
>
>  Name |  Owner   | Encoding
>
> --+--+--
>  stdb | dfgauthi | UTF8
>
>  stdb2| dfgauthi | UTF8
>
>  stdb_standby | dfgauthi | UTF8

Very strange.  maybe the name has a space in it?

Try running this query:
 select '|'||datname||'|' from pg_database ;
and see if you have a space or something in there.  can you run the
alter database rename from the command line and just not from psql?

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