Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-10 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:45 AM, David Johnston
david.g.johns...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, that is what I was referring to.  The Nabble.com website showed them.

 http://postgresql.1045698.n5.nabble.com/SSL-Certificates-in-Postgres-9-3-and-Windows-7-td5826230.html

Then it's more logical. Nabble simply did not include that when the
email was posted. I would call that either a bug or at least a
limitation in Nabble - I think only they can figure out what's wrong
and if it's fixable. Until then, we'll have to recommend people just
post plaintext from there (which seems to work) or use a more capable
MUA.


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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 11/10/2014 11:13 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:

Then it's more logical. Nabble simply did not include that when the
email was posted. I would call that either a bug or at least a
limitation in Nabble - I think only they can figure out what's wrong
and if it's fixable. Until then, we'll have to recommend people just
post plaintext from there (which seems to work) or use a more capable
MUA.


I suspect its the centos mail list server thats stripping attachments.  
I know most of my personal email lists do so.




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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-10 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:53 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 On 11/10/2014 11:13 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:

 Then it's more logical. Nabble simply did not include that when the
 email was posted. I would call that either a bug or at least a
 limitation in Nabble - I think only they can figure out what's wrong
 and if it's fixable. Until then, we'll have to recommend people just
 post plaintext from there (which seems to work) or use a more capable
 MUA.


 I suspect its the centos mail list server thats stripping attachments.  I
 know most of my personal email lists do so.

The post was made to the pgsql-general list AFAICT, and I'm pretty
sure it doesn't strip any attachments. I would be hard to deal with
patches if it did...


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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-10 Thread David G Johnston
Since we are testing...test using Nabble.com and the more-raw option...

begin quote
I also get this error message in my log file:

begin raw

end raw
end quote

Following the sentence above should be 4 lines of log file content...

Sent using the Nabble.com interface

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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 11/08/2014 08:07 PM, harpagornis wrote:

I am trying to implement SSL certificates with postgres 9.3 locally in
Windows 7.  In Windows Component Services / Local Services, postrgres is
configured to start automatically, with Log On as a local system account.

Using my Windows administrator account, in a command prompt inside my data
folder, when I execute postgres -D . , I get the message, Redirecting
logging output to the logging collector service.   I also get this error
message in my log file:



?





When I try to connect in PgAdminIII I get the error message, Server isn't
listening  What am I doing wrong?  Right now, just for development
purposes, do I need to have a root certificate?  I tried unsuccessfully to
create one with makecert but couldn't get the flags and options right.


Would seem either Postgres has not started or is listening on an 
interface different from what you are trying to connect to.





I followed the postgres  openssl documentation for creating the
privkey.pem, server.req, server.key and server.crt files, ie.:



?



This is the entire pg_hba.conf file:




?





Also, which of those last two lines in the pg_hba.conf file should I be
using to require SSL certificates for all postgres accounts?  Is it even
possible to require a SSL certificate for the postgres account?

This the entire postgresql.conf file:



?




Thank you for all comments and suggestions.


More comments/suggestions will have to wait until the missing pieces are 
filled in.










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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread Krystian Bigaj
On 9 November 2014 05:07, harpagornis shenl...@runbox.com wrote:

 I am trying to implement SSL certificates with postgres 9.3 locally in
 Windows 7.  In Windows Component Services / Local Services, postrgres is
 configured to start automatically, with Log On as a local system account.

Postgres on Windows will not start if it's running on account which belongs
to Administrators or PowerUsers groups.
LocalSystem belongs to Administrators.

On most cases you would like to use for example NetworkService account,
however you need to setup proper permissions on cluster data directory
(full access), postgres installation directory (read+execute mostly), and
in some cases also for root drive of cluster data directory (read access).

Best regards,
Krystian Bigaj


Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread David G Johnston
Adrian Klaver-4 wrote
 Thank you for all comments and suggestions.
 
 More comments/suggestions will have to wait until the missing pieces are 
 filled in.

I read most of these mailing list emails via Nabble and the pieces you show
as missing are present in what I am reading.  If I go to reply and quote the
original message the missing sections are sour rounded by raw tags.

Looking at the official mailing list archive these sections are missing
there.





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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread David G Johnston
Quoting original message to try and show file contents...


harpagornis wrote
 I am trying to implement SSL certificates with postgres 9.3 locally in
 Windows 7.  In Windows Component Services / Local Services, postrgres is
 configured to start automatically, with Log On as a local system account.  
 
 Using my Windows administrator account, in a command prompt inside my data
 folder, when I execute postgres -D . , I get the message, Redirecting
 logging output to the logging collector service.   I also get this error
 message in my log file:
 
 2014-11-09 03:05:13 GMT LOG:  client certificates can only be checked if a
 root certificate store is available
 2014-11-09 03:05:13 GMT HINT:  Make sure the configuration parameter
 ssl_ca_file is set.
 2014-11-09 03:05:13 GMT CONTEXT:  line 2 of configuration file
 D:/PostgresDat/pg_hba.conf
 2014-11-09 03:05:13 GMT FATAL:  could not load pg_hba.conf
 
 When I try to connect in PgAdminIII I get the error message, Server isn't
 listening  What am I doing wrong?  Right now, just for development
 purposes, do I need to have a root certificate?  I tried unsuccessfully to
 create one with makecert but couldn't get the flags and options right.  
 
 
 I followed the postgres  openssl documentation for creating the 
 privkey.pem, server.req, server.key and server.crt files, ie.:
 
 1. openssl genrsa –out privkey.pem 2048
 2. openssl req -new -key privkey.pem -out server.req –config
 D:\openssl\v9.8\openssl.cnf”
 3. openssl rsa -in privkey.pem -out server.key openssl req -x509 -in
 server.req -text -key server.key -out server.crt  -config
 D:\openssl\v9.8\openssl.cnf”
 
 
 This is the entire pg_hba.conf file:
 
 
 # TYPE  DATABASE   USERADDRESSMETHOD
 hostssl  all   all 127.0.0.1/32   cert  clientcert=1
 hostssl  postgres   postgres   ::1/128   trust 
 #hostssl  all   all ::1/128cert  clientcert=1
 
 Also, which of those last two lines in the pg_hba.conf file should I be
 using to require SSL certificates for all postgres accounts?  Is it even
 possible to require a SSL certificate for the postgres account?
 
 This the entire postgresql.conf file:
 
 listen_addresses = '*'
 port = 5432   # (change requires restart)
 max_connections = 100 # (change requires restart)
 # - Security and Authentication -
 ssl = on  # (change requires restart)
 ssl_ciphers = 'DEFAULT:!LOW:!EXP:!MD5:@STRENGTH'  # allowed SSL ciphers
 ssl_renegotiation_limit = 512MB   # amount of data between renegotiations
 ssl_cert_file = 'server.crt'  # (change requires restart)
 ssl_key_file = 'server.key'   # (change requires restart)
 #ssl_ca_file = 'root.crt'
 password_encryption = on
 shared_buffers = 128MB# min 128kB
 
 # ERROR REPORTING AND LOGGING
 # - Where to Log -
 log_destination = 'stderr'
 # This is used when logging to stderr:
 logging_collector = on# Enable capturing of stderr and csvlog
   # into log files. Required to be on for
   # csvlogs.
   # (change requires restart)
 log_line_prefix = '%t '   # special values:
 
 # - Locale and Formatting -
 datestyle = 'iso, mdy'
 timezone = 'US/Central'
 lc_messages = 'English_United States.1252'# locale for system 
 error
 message
 lc_monetary = 'English_United States.1252'# locale for monetary
 formatting
 lc_numeric = 'English_United States.1252' # locale for 
 number formatting
 lc_time = 'English_United States.1252'# locale for 
 time formatting
 
 # default configuration for text search
 default_text_search_config = 'pg_catalog.english'
 
 Thank you for all comments and suggestions.

David J.



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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread harpagornis
As suggested, I changed the data folder permissions from Read Only to allow
Read / Write (I was already logged in as Administrator),  but the errors are
the same.  

If I remove the SSL-related lines in pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf, and
use the following lines instead in pg_hba.conf, I am able to connect to the
database using PgAdminIII:



But, even then, after doing that, and setting ssl=off in postgresql.conf,
when I run the command prompt and execute postgres -D . in the data
folder, I get these errors in the command prompt console:


With that, there are no entries in the postgres log file.  



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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread harpagornis
Windows automatically changed the data folder attribute back to Read Only. 
The only Windows groups that have full permission are SYSTEM, Administrators
and my administrator /user account.  



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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 11/09/2014 10:14 AM, David G Johnston wrote:

Adrian Klaver-4 wrote

Thank you for all comments and suggestions.


More comments/suggestions will have to wait until the missing pieces are
filled in.


I read most of these mailing list emails via Nabble and the pieces you show
as missing are present in what I am reading.  If I go to reply and quote the
original message the missing sections are sour rounded by raw tags.


Hmm, is there a way to make Nabble aware of this and fix it?



Looking at the official mailing list archive these sections are missing
there.





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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 11/09/2014 10:17 AM, David G Johnston wrote:

Quoting original message to try and show file contents...


harpagornis wrote

I am trying to implement SSL certificates with postgres 9.3 locally in
Windows 7.  In Windows Component Services / Local Services, postrgres is
configured to start automatically, with Log On as a local system account.

Using my Windows administrator account, in a command prompt inside my data
folder, when I execute postgres -D . , I get the message, Redirecting
logging output to the logging collector service.   I also get this error
message in my log file:

2014-11-09 03:05:13 GMT LOG:  client certificates can only be checked if a
root certificate store is available
2014-11-09 03:05:13 GMT HINT:  Make sure the configuration parameter
ssl_ca_file is set.
2014-11-09 03:05:13 GMT CONTEXT:  line 2 of configuration file
D:/PostgresDat/pg_hba.conf
2014-11-09 03:05:13 GMT FATAL:  could not load pg_hba.conf

When I try to connect in PgAdminIII I get the error message, Server isn't
listening  What am I doing wrong?  Right now, just for development
purposes, do I need to have a root certificate?  I tried unsuccessfully to
create one with makecert but couldn't get the flags and options right.


My suggestion would be to read:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/interactive/ssl-tcp.html

The short version:

If you want a client to supply a certificate then you need a valid 
ssl_ca_file. If you do not want that to happen do not set cert 
clientcert=1 in pg_hba.conf






David J.



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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread David Johnston
On Sunday, November 9, 2014, Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@aklaver.com
wrote:

 On 11/09/2014 10:14 AM, David G Johnston wrote:

 Adrian Klaver-4 wrote

 Thank you for all comments and suggestions.


 More comments/suggestions will have to wait until the missing pieces are
 filled in.


 I read most of these mailing list emails via Nabble and the pieces you
 show
 as missing are present in what I am reading.  If I go to reply and quote
 the
 original message the missing sections are sour rounded by raw tags.


 Hmm, is there a way to make Nabble aware of this and fix it?


 Looking at the official mailing list archive these sections are missing
 there.




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I don't know how the OP sent the original e-mail but since I could read the
problem areas the question is why other e-mail clients aren't seeing
them...


Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:37 PM, David Johnston
david.g.johns...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sunday, November 9, 2014, Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@aklaver.com
 wrote:

 On 11/09/2014 10:14 AM, David G Johnston wrote:

 Adrian Klaver-4 wrote

 Thank you for all comments and suggestions.


 More comments/suggestions will have to wait until the missing pieces are
 filled in.


 I read most of these mailing list emails via Nabble and the pieces you
 show
 as missing are present in what I am reading.  If I go to reply and quote
 the
 original message the missing sections are sour rounded by raw tags.


 Hmm, is there a way to make Nabble aware of this and fix it?


 Looking at the official mailing list archive these sections are missing
 there.




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 adrian.kla...@aklaver.com


 I don't know how the OP sent the original e-mail but since I could read the
 problem areas the question is why other e-mail clients aren't seeing them...

I'd be more interested in how *you* could see them - unless you are
just referring to seeing them on nabble.com?

The original as delivered through the mailinglist is in it's raw form
at 
http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/raw/1415506067738-5826230.p...@n5.nabble.com
- which does not contain those parts. And it wasn't event sent as
multipart, so there is not much of ways to misparse it.


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Re: [GENERAL] SSL Certificates in Postgres 9.3 and Windows 7

2014-11-09 Thread David Johnston
Yes, that is what I was referring to.  The Nabble.com website showed them.

http://postgresql.1045698.n5.nabble.com/SSL-Certificates-in-Postgres-9-3-and-Windows-7-td5826230.html

David J.

On Sunday, November 9, 2014, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:37 PM, David Johnston
 david.g.johns...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:
 
 
  On Sunday, November 9, 2014, Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@aklaver.com
 javascript:;
  wrote:
 
  On 11/09/2014 10:14 AM, David G Johnston wrote:
 
  Adrian Klaver-4 wrote
 
  Thank you for all comments and suggestions.
 
 
  More comments/suggestions will have to wait until the missing pieces
 are
  filled in.
 
 
  I read most of these mailing list emails via Nabble and the pieces you
  show
  as missing are present in what I am reading.  If I go to reply and
 quote
  the
  original message the missing sections are sour rounded by raw tags.
 
 
  Hmm, is there a way to make Nabble aware of this and fix it?
 
 
  Looking at the official mailing list archive these sections are missing
  there.
 
 
 
 
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  adrian.kla...@aklaver.com javascript:;
 
 
  I don't know how the OP sent the original e-mail but since I could read
 the
  problem areas the question is why other e-mail clients aren't seeing
 them...

 I'd be more interested in how *you* could see them - unless you are
 just referring to seeing them on nabble.com?

 The original as delivered through the mailinglist is in it's raw form
 at
 http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/raw/1415506067738-5826230.p...@n5.nabble.com
 - which does not contain those parts. And it wasn't event sent as
 multipart, so there is not much of ways to misparse it.


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