Re: [HACKERS] psql SET/RESET/SHOW tab completion

2005-08-14 Thread Dawid Kuroczko
On 13 Aug 2005 21:42:45 -0400, Greg Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  However, if you favor a no thought required approach, listing 'em
  all is certainly the path of least resistance.  I'm just dubious that
  that maximizes the usefulness of tab completion.
 I'm not sure if you're interested, but my 2c speaking as a user would be for
 tab completion to include all variables. I often hit tab completion in new
 programs just to find out what's out there and would take something missing to
 be positive proof it didn't exist.

Oh, I usually do the same thing.  I guess my approach could summarized as:
I assume tab-completion is not too smart -- it just completes one of valid
values.  And at the times where tab-completion is smart, it is smart and
configurable -- as ZSH tab-completion.  And were PostgreSQL's tab-completion
go the smart way I would be for adding a GUC which allowed to fine-grain
what it actually gives (all variables, settable variables, 'vacuum%'
and 'enable%'
variables, etc. ;))).

Regards,
   Dawid

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Re: [HACKERS] SPARQL

2005-08-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Donnerstag, 11. August 2005 04:33 schrieb Christopher Kings-Lynne:
 Looks like there's a standard XML way of returning query results:

 http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-rdf-sparql-XMLres-20050801/

This is for RDF queries, not for SQL queries. For SQL, the SQL/XML standard 
gives you a standard XML format for table representation. I have some code 
for that if anyone is interested. I will put that up on pgFoundry one of 
these days.

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Re: [HACKERS] psql SET/RESET/SHOW tab completion

2005-08-14 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I'm not sure if you're interested, but my 2c speaking as a user would be for
 tab completion to include all variables.

OK, I'm clearly outvoted on this one.  How about we make SHOW
tab-complete everything listed in pg_settings, while SET/RESET
tab-complete everything that's USERSET or SUSET?

(We could probably even make it suppress SUSET if you aren't superuser,
but I'm not sure if that's worth the trouble.)

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] Simplifying wal_sync_method

2005-08-14 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell

UFS was the filesystem on the Solaris 9 box.

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On Aug 11, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:


On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 02:11:48AM -0500, Thomas F. O'Connell wrote:


I was recently witness to a benchmark of 7.4.5 on Solaris 9 wherein
it was apparently demonstrated that fsync was the fastest option
among the 7.4.x wal_sync_method options.

If there's a way to make this information more useful by providing
more data, please let me know, and I'll see what I can do.



What would be really interesting to me to know is what Sun did
between 8 and 9 to make that so.  We don't use Solaris for databases
any more, but fsync was a lot slower than whatever we ended up using
on 8.  I wouldn't be surprised if they'd wired fsync directly to
something else; but I can hardly believe it'd be faster than any
other option.  (Mind, we were using Veritas filesyste with this, as
well, which was at least half the headache.)

A


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Re: [HACKERS] small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?

2005-08-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2005 20:49 schrieb Tom Lane:
 Currently, pg_config will tell about the configure options that were
 used, but it does not let you find out if any environment variables were
 used to determine CC, CFLAGS, etc.

If you put these flags onto the configure command line, then they are 
recorded. E.g.:

$ ./pg_config --configure
'--prefix=/home/peter/devel/pg81/pg-install' 'CFLAGS=-W'

This is good for reproducing the build.  If you really want to know everything 
about the build environment, then you should look into config.log.  We 
shouldn't install config.log by default because it contains information that 
you might not want to publish, but it's the place to look at for diagnosing 
the build environment.

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Re: [HACKERS] small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?

2005-08-14 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Am Dienstag, 9. August 2005 20:49 schrieb Tom Lane:
 Currently, pg_config will tell about the configure options that were
 used, but it does not let you find out if any environment variables were
 used to determine CC, CFLAGS, etc.

 If you put these flags onto the configure command line, then they are 
 recorded. E.g.:

 $ ./pg_config --configure
 '--prefix=/home/peter/devel/pg81/pg-install' 'CFLAGS=-W'

Sure, but people frequently do not do it that way.  The point of my
proposal was to make sure we could find out the flags actually used
after-the-fact, whether or not config.log is still around.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] SPARQL

2005-08-14 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
This is for RDF queries, not for SQL queries. For SQL, the SQL/XML standard 
gives you a standard XML format for table representation. I have some code 
for that if anyone is interested. I will put that up on pgFoundry one of 
these days.


I'm interested in the SQL format so that I can implement it in 
phpPgAdmin - can you give me an example, or docs on it?


Chris


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Re: [HACKERS] psql SET/RESET/SHOW tab completion

2005-08-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote:
 Greg Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I'm not sure if you're interested, but my 2c speaking as a user would be for
  tab completion to include all variables.
 
 OK, I'm clearly outvoted on this one.  How about we make SHOW
 tab-complete everything listed in pg_settings, while SET/RESET
 tab-complete everything that's USERSET or SUSET?
 
 (We could probably even make it suppress SUSET if you aren't superuser,
 but I'm not sure if that's worth the trouble.)

Yea, that's what I was thinking.  Not sure if the superuser check is
_too_ smart.

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Re: [HACKERS] SPARQL

2005-08-14 Thread David Fetter
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:53:18AM +0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
 This is for RDF queries, not for SQL queries. For SQL, the SQL/XML
 standard gives you a standard XML format for table
 representation. I have some code for that if anyone is interested.
 I will put that up on pgFoundry one of these days.
 
 I'm interested in the SQL format so that I can implement it in
 phpPgAdmin - can you give me an example, or docs on it?

It's in 5WD-14-XML-2003-09.pdf which is available at

http://wiscorp.com/SQLStandards.html

Cheers,
D
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